ATi vs Nvidia 2008 - Page 15

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 4th, 2009

Not really, it's just an attempted answer to the new ATI card. More like they are just countering again and keeping their crown intact by crippling a GTX285

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Phil · April 4th, 2009

Well better this then letting the 4890 have the news all to itself

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 4th, 2009

True there.

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runawayprisoner · April 7th, 2009

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Well better this then letting the 4890 have the news all to itself

If ATi is going to drop HD4890 down to the $200 price-range then I'm pretty sure nVidia is going to drop their jaws and bang their heads against a wall made of GTX 275 boxes.

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gamefreak94 · April 7th, 2009

Are you ever gonna leave Crysis alone?

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StriderVM · April 7th, 2009

Probably not. Because it's one of the games that are just does things very diffently I doubt we'll gonna see any hardware in this decade that will run it 60FPS all the time.

It's almost the same thing with GTA 4.

Saints Row 2 is another thing altogether though....

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LoneWolf · April 7th, 2009

are you sure because ive seen people play it at 60 fps minimum and 85 maximum

at 1900x 1200

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 7th, 2009

That does not mean AA and Shadows were fully turned up though.

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LoneWolf · April 7th, 2009

i think i saw someone play it maxed out at 1900 x 1200

cant remember the configration but that was a killer pc i think 3 way sli of GTX 295 or GTX 285

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 7th, 2009

RAP was talking about a SINGLE card

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LoneWolf · April 7th, 2009

ok then its not possible

maybe the so called HD 5870 X 4 might do it

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 7th, 2009

X4...that's still not a single card then...it's a dual card...which occupies the same space as a single card.

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runawayprisoner · April 7th, 2009

Probably something with pure brute force... 1.2GHz GPU core clock and twice the shader processors of the HD4890. Then again, I think I'm talking about an extreme overclocked HD4890 X2 here... (bet this one is going to be a very extreme performer... possibly outtake the GTX 295 even)

An X2 or X4 card would still theoretically be a single card for me (dual-core or quad-core), lest it has more than one PCB, like in the case of the GTX 295.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 7th, 2009

no RAP. If it's got more than one chip regardless of how it's done then it's dual.

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runawayprisoner · April 7th, 2009

That's why I said "for me".

The point is making the most compact performer ever... even if it's bigger than the usual single-slot suspect. As long as it doesn't occupy more than three slots (cooler and heatsink included) then it's fine by my standards. Some motherboards only have a single slot, so... yeah, that's the reason.

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PCXL-Fan · April 7th, 2009

rap what are the speculated specs and capabilities of the 5870?

give us every thing you can tell us from the bus width to the memory used, to the memory speed, to the die size, transistor count, dx11 support(?), touted capabilities.... yada yada...

everything and anything

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P_RePTiLe · April 7th, 2009

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no RAP. If it's got more than one chip regardless of how it's done then it's dual.

See, there is a difference between "card" and "chip", putting more of the same "chips" on one card doesn't make it several cards.
not exactly, but almost, like a dual or quad-core still is only one processor

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · April 7th, 2009

Not if it's up to AMD.

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runawayprisoner · April 7th, 2009

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rap what are the speculated specs and capabilities of the 5870?

give us every thing you can tell us from the bus width to the memory used, to the memory speed, to the die size, transistor count, dx11 support(?), touted capabilities.... yada yada...

everything and anything

I thought Google would be friendly enough?

Leaked: 40nm Radeon HD 5870 to Peak 1.5 TFLOPS - A much smaller die for the GPU, DirectX11 and more to come next year - Softpedia

So... anyway... 1.5TFLOPS.

Imagine... HD4890 would still be at 1.2 - 1.3 with its core clock at 1GHz... one can only "speculate" what kind of "monster" the HD 5870 is.

So my guess is that... nothing short of GDDR5, nothing short of a standard 1GB capacity, nothing short of a 1GHz core clock, but they may "push 'er down" to 800MHz or so to "preserve the WOW factor when you try to overclock". And the memory clocks may well be in the 1GHz range (effective clock 4GHz?) because the HD 4870 with GDDR5 already delivered 120GB/sec and the HD 5870 is speculated to deliver 160GB/sec. But it could also be because of the wider bus... (or actually, it IS because of the wider bus)

25% more shader processors may mean it'll have well over 1000 shader processors... which would be good for Crysis...

And just the thought of the HD 5870 X2 makes me fog up my glasses...

(evil scientist mode FTW!) 3TFLOPS, anyone?

But FLOPS aside, I believe it'll be good for gaming, too! <= sounds ironic.

If only ATi could sort out those OpenGL issues...

But wild speculations aside, I think ATi will still have a hard time if nVidia stays competitive. Right now a GTX 295 for $500 is very competitive IMO... considering a HD4870X2 is close to that price tag.

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PCXL-Fan · April 7th, 2009

awesome thanks for the info

didn't know i'd find tons with a simple google search on google, but i knew you were the go to guy for tech info so i had to ask

i just hope ati can be ahead in a number of price ranges again with the next generation, so they get back some of the market share they so desperately need. We need both companies equally locking horns neither continuously dominating.

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April 4th, 2009	#281 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,346	Not really, it's just an attempted answer to the new ATI card. More like they are just countering again and keeping their crown intact by crippling a GTX285 __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

April 4th, 2009	#282 (permalink)
Phil Regular User ;) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 9,972	Well better this then letting the 4890 have the news all to itself __________________ A Mac is like an escort, you pay a ton and get nothing. A PC is like a hooker, it's a lot cheaper and gives you what you're after.. and if unlucky some diseases as well, that's why you gotta use protection. -CC

April 4th, 2009	#283 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,346	True there. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

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StriderVM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 2,059	Probably not. Because it's one of the games that are just does things very diffently I doubt we'll gonna see any hardware in this decade that will run it 60FPS all the time. It's almost the same thing with GTA 4. Saints Row 2 is another thing altogether though.... __________________ Current PC specs : AsRock 945GCM-S Pentium Dual Core E5200 @ 2912Mhz (233x12.5) Palit Radeon 4850 Sonic 512MB gDDR3 2x2048MB Kingston DDR2 800Mhz RAM

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LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	are you sure because ive seen people play it at 60 fps minimum and 85 maximum at 1900x 1200 Last edited by LoneWolf; April 7th, 2009 at 12:42.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

April 7th, 2009	#288 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,346	That does not mean AA and Shadows were fully turned up though. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

April 7th, 2009	#289 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	i think i saw someone play it maxed out at 1900 x 1200 cant remember the configration but that was a killer pc i think 3 way sli of GTX 295 or GTX 285

April 7th, 2009	#290 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,346	RAP was talking about a SINGLE card __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

April 7th, 2009	#291 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	ok then its not possible maybe the so called HD 5870 X 4 might do it

April 7th, 2009	#292 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,346	X4...that's still not a single card then...it's a dual card...which occupies the same space as a single card. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

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runawayprisoner Mobile Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 6,207	Probably something with pure brute force... 1.2GHz GPU core clock and twice the shader processors of the HD4890. Then again, I think I'm talking about an extreme overclocked HD4890 X2 here... (bet this one is going to be a very extreme performer... possibly outtake the GTX 295 even) An X2 or X4 card would still theoretically be a single card for me (dual-core or quad-core), lest it has more than one PCB, like in the case of the GTX 295. __________________ cChip interpreter WIP - current status: Release Candidate LRx Filter RC - current performance rating: 9/10

April 7th, 2009	#294 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,346	no RAP. If it's got more than one chip regardless of how it's done then it's dual. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

April 7th, 2009	#295 (permalink)
runawayprisoner Mobile Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 6,207	That's why I said "for me". The point is making the most compact performer ever... even if it's bigger than the usual single-slot suspect. As long as it doesn't occupy more than three slots (cooler and heatsink included) then it's fine by my standards. Some motherboards only have a single slot, so... yeah, that's the reason. __________________ cChip interpreter WIP - current status: Release Candidate LRx Filter RC - current performance rating: 9/10

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SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,346	Not if it's up to AMD. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!