9 Series dumped. 9900GTX is no more! - Page 2

skoreanime · May 22nd, 2008

Is that really the size of the IHS core? That's massive!

PCXL-Fan · May 23rd, 2008

wow 240 pixel shader units that are individually somewhat more powerful that previous cards pixel shader units.(and I don't just mean CUDA wise)

This looks like the the card we've been waiting for.

cottonvibes · May 23rd, 2008

the card looks the same as every other high-ranged card.

you can't tell its power just by looking at it.

btw PCXL-fan,
where did you see it has 240 PS units more powerful than previous cards.

PCXL-Fan · May 23rd, 2008

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Originally Posted by cottonvibes

the card looks the same as every other high-ranged card.

you can't tell its power just by looking at it.

Sure you can. Its has a 8 & 6 pin pci-e power connector. So its probably as powerful as the ATI HD 2900XT which requires that much power as well.

Quote:

btw PCXL-fan,
where did you see it has 240 PS units more powerful than previous cards.

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Originally Posted by http://www.Dailytech.com

The GTX 280 enables all features of the D10U processor; the GTX 260 version will consist of a significantly cut-down version of the same GPU. The D10U-30 will enable all 240 unified stream processors designed into the processor. NVIDIA documentation claims these second-generation unified shaders perform 50 percent better than the shaders found on the D9 cards released earlier this year.

Of course you can't take their word the individual shaders units being 50% more powerful than their predecessors. Its guaranteed to be less than that.

cottonvibes · May 23rd, 2008

i hope this card makes Crysis look like easy stuff.

... but i doubt it...

deusex2 · May 24th, 2008

Errrr...So when this monster will hit the store shelfes? ^_^

makotech222 · May 24th, 2008

june 16, supposedly.

John Aiton · May 25th, 2008

yarr, behold first final card pictures

surprising thing is a source picture from nvidias site that's pretty old iirc

BTW, a few industry insiders are claiming the jump in performance is shockingly big
larger than that from the 7 to 8 series with the 8800ultra

Cheesus · May 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by John Aiton

BTW, a few industry insiders are claiming the jump in performance is shockingly big
larger than that from the 7 to 8 series with the 8800ultra

Lets hope so.

Then again, aside from Crysis, is there really any other game that actually needs it?

John Aiton · May 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by Cheesus

Lets hope so.

Then again, aside from Crysis, is there really any other game that actually needs it?

no, but Photoshop will now provide gpu support in the next version.
so the work won't be done by the cpu anymore which is awesome

no more stuttering when using a few hundred layers

oh, and folding at home will now work on nvidia cards as well as ati

cottonvibes · May 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by John Aiton

BTW, a few industry insiders are claiming the jump in performance is shockingly big
larger than that from the 7 to 8 series with the 8800ultra

that would be awsome.

but can you really believe that hype?

i won't trust anything until I see some legit benchmarks.

i really hope its able to pwn crysis with max settings at a high resolution. (which i doubt...)

btw, is this card going to have 1gb RAM?

John Aiton · May 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by cottonvibes

that would be awsome.

but can you really believe that hype?
i won't trust anything until I see some legit benchmarks.
btw, is this card going to have 1gb RAM?

yes I do,

the 9 series was pathetic
why would nvidia do this unless they were wringing all they could out before a major improvement?

they simply speed binned 8800gt cores as they sold them,
kept them stored to sell as a "new" series

the behaviour reminds me of the 7 series before the 8 series blew it away,
7950gx2 lulz (iirc)

the die is freaking huge, it's a new arch with a 50% shader improvement

ie: lots moar shaders and each shader is moar speedz
= MOAR SPEEDZ!!!

plus the fact that the 8800 ultra has been around since 2006 ffs,
and it's STILL one of the fastest cards available

improvements are loooong overdue

cottonvibes · May 25th, 2008

yeah but if you think about it, nvidia has always done that "take 1 card and rename it" thing...

they did that with the geforce 440 mx i believe, they were just geforce 2 cards or something...

anyways, i hope this card kicks 4ss, but i hope the 10 series of cards kicks even more 4ss.

i don't plan on upgrading my videocard for 1 year, so this card is out of my budget.

John Aiton · May 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by cottonvibes

anyways, i hope this card kicks 4ss, but i hope the 10 series of cards kicks even more 4ss.

i don't plan on upgrading my videocard for 1 year, so this card is out of my budget.

wow, you really don't know?

This card will kick ass because it is the new series

nvidia dropped the 10 naming scheme,
so the 10800gts will be called the gt260 and
10800 Ultra will be called the gt280

the 9900gts is just a 55nm 9800gtx and won't bring much performance increase

the original intent of the thread was to discuss the two cards which were
going to be the 9900 series but are now the new GT series

cottonvibes · May 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Aiton

wow, you really don't know?

This card will kick ass because it is the new series

nvidia dropped the 10 naming scheme,
so the 10800gts will be called the gt260 and
10800 Ultra will be called the gt280

the 9900gts is just a 55nm 9800gtx and won't bring much performance increase

the original intent of the thread was to discuss the two cards which were
going to be the 9900 series but are now the new GT series

forget about the new naming scheme.

this card was originally going to be part of the 9 series.

its not the 10 series!

they just released the 9 series a few months ago, it'll take a year for the 10 series to come out.

... well with the new naming scheme they won't be called the 10 series... but i mean the next generation of cards.

anyways,

them changing the name of this card dosn't mean its any more powerful...

its not like changing the name gives it extra speed and power

John Aiton · May 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by cottonvibes

forget about the new naming scheme.

this card was originally going to be part of the 9 series.

its not the 10 series!

they just released the 9 series a few months ago, it'll take a year for the 10 series to come out.

... well with the new naming scheme they won't be called the 10 series... but i mean the next generation of cards.

anyways,

them changing the name of this card dosn't mean its any more powerful...

its not like changing the name gives it extra speed and power

get your facts right noob

going by nvidia internal structure,

ie:
G80 = 8 series
G90 = 9 series
G100 = 10 series

G90 was prematurely used in the 8800gt and gts to spite ati for the 3x series
that's why the 9800gtx is just an 8800gts, as it was never intended for 8 series use

which is why there's so many g90 cards
G92, G92b, G94, G96 and G98 being the main ones

the die shrink was to be exclusive to the 9 series when first mapped out and the 8 series was to be 90nm only

the original G100 (ie series 10)
d10-30u is the internal name for the core,
G100 was renamed GT-200 and d10-30u was renamed gt280

THIS IS THE 10 SERIES ARCHITECURE

or GT series as it is now

EDIT: btw, there will never be a 10 series. ever. think of all the numbers. eek

Phil · May 25th, 2008

um the 8800 ultra came out in 2007. the 8800 gtx came out in 2006. get your facts right, noob.

John Aiton · May 25th, 2008

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Originally Posted by Phil

um the 8800 ultra came out in 2007. the 8800 gtx came out in 2006. get your facts right, noob.

umm the ultra is a gtx with a different heatsink and oc'd,
strip both to the bare pcbs

anyways......
old card is old

cottonvibes · May 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Aiton

get your facts right noob

going by nvidia internal structure,

ie:
G80 = 8 series
G90 = 9 series
G100 = 10 series

G90 was prematurely used in the 8800gt and gts to spite ati for the 3x series
that's why the 9800gtx is just an 8800gts, as it was never intended for 8 series use

which is why there's so many g90 cards
G92, G92b, G94, G96 and G98 being the main ones

the die shrink was to be exclusive to the 9 series when first mapped out and the 8 series was to be 90nm only

the original G100 (ie series 10)
d10-30u is the internal name for the core,
G100 was renamed GT-200 and d10-30u was renamed gt280

THIS IS THE 10 SERIES ARCHITECURE

or GT series as it is now

EDIT: btw, there will never be a 10 series. ever. think of all the numbers. eek

the card we're talking about was originally going to be called the 9900GTX.

so now its called the GT-280.

because it was originally going to be called the 9900GTX, it makes sense to still call it part of the 9 series.

because the series and core names got all mixed up, you can't judge it by that.

and if we factor in time.

it took over 1 year for the 9 series to be released after the 8 series.

they're not going to release the 10 series cards, 2 months after the 9 series were released...

John Aiton · May 25th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

the card we're talking about was originally going to be called the 9900GTX.

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John Aiton A Fluffy Kitty Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gemity Posts: 2,147	yarr, behold first final card pictures surprising thing is a source picture from nvidias site that's pretty old iirc BTW, a few industry insiders are claiming the jump in performance is shockingly big larger than that from the 7 to 8 series with the 8800ultra __________________ Last edited by John Aiton; May 25th, 2008 at 14:12.

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deusex2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 21	Errrr...So when this monster will hit the store shelfes? ^_^

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Phil Mod Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States of Money Posts: 3,605	um the 8800 ultra came out in 2007. the 8800 gtx came out in 2006. get your facts right, noob.