So, What Kinda Speeds Can I Get??

alexxb · 2 Weeks Ago

I am building my PC and this is what I currently have.

Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 (64 Bit)
Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz
ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI (Mobo)
GeForce 9800 GTX (G92) 512 MB
4GB RAM DDR2 SDRAM

I want to play Naruto (Ultimate Ninja 2 - Accel 2 and up), Bleach (Blade Battlers 2 and up), and DBZ BT2 and up. So, what kinda speeds can I get in these games??

I was also wondering if it could play other high demanding games like FF, Persona, GoW 2??, and etc.

Phil · 2 Weeks Ago

perfect speeds......if you clock that e8400 to 3.8 ghz. (4 if you have a decent cooler)

And just try it out......dont ask us first

alexxb · 2 Weeks Ago

I will tr it out but I am still buying the parts (newegg) and making this fit into m 1150 budget.

Mkilbride2588 · 2 Weeks Ago

Actually, no, Bleach Blade Battlers 2 currently cannot be played full speed...I do not know if it is a requirement issue or something, but on my system it crawls, and your system isn't so much better than mine to make a difference.

Also, certain attacks by characters freeze the game and it cannot be played...considering NPC's usually automatically transform and use said attacks, it's Unplayable in my book(A few characters transformations run fine, sure, but 90% of them don't)

DBZ games sure, you'll pwn them. Like said, OC that E8400.

About Naruto though, I'm not sure, but I hear alot of complaints about those games...so good luck.

Phil · 2 Weeks Ago

Well if you want more in depth advice, make a thread in the hardware section

Mkilbride, an 8400 clocked to 4.3 ghz probably will play it fullspeed

Mkilbride2588 · 2 Weeks Ago

That amount of Extra MHZ could not amount to 25-35FPS required at some parts, unless it's mainly GPU limited, which it may be. I did not notice a slowdown even while upping the resolution though, it stayed at the same speed, top thing was at like 45-75% most of the time...so if you're saying 900MHZ would suffice? Even on a better architecture...hmm. Oh well, I dunno, it could be an emulation issue.

I'm just making sure he doesn't come back here and complain about speed issues, sure, his system is going to be beefy, but BB2 is quite intensive.

alexxb · 2 Weeks Ago

I don't plan to overclock the CPU anytime soon since it is new (would like to get 2 years before that).

Phil · 2 Weeks Ago

Mkilbride: Still the same anti n00b dude as always. may be i should boot hockland out of your gang and take his place as n00b killer number 2

no overclock=no good speeds. simple as that....unless with disgea or ffx

Mkilbride2588 · 2 Weeks Ago

Oh...what a waste, E8400 was almost built just to OC, it OC's easily...and so well.

You'll probably get about the same performance than me, or a little better due to advanced architecture and yoru 9800GTX.(Did you edit that down to a 8800?)

Please reconsider though, Over-clocking is safe and easy, and well worth it. It's almost a crime to buy a E8400 and NOT OC.

I see your edit.

Persona 3...not sure, @ 3.4GHZ, some battles get me down to 30FPS, and some scenes 25-27FPS, you really should OC it.(I've read a 4.0GHZ E8400 got full speed, even if only 600MHZ more, it's architecture is insane, I guess)

GoW2...No one knows, as it isn't playable, but considering it's a late PS2 game...probably require a beast.

FF's your set though.

Also remember games that aren't emulated properly may not run full speed.

Such as "Shadow Hearts' for example, even if I run it in DX10 mode and it barely uses my CPU or GPU, it can get down to 45FPS sometimes, due to not being emulated properly, and it's graphics are worse than FFX. Yet FFX can go 100FPS+

Phil · 2 Weeks Ago

yeah i know. with a decent cooler, most games could run near full speed....and in some cases, beyond it.

alexxb · 2 Weeks Ago

A cooler eh. I will OC, but I don't want to mess up my other apps. I have been told that the mobo and CPU are great for OC but I have no clue how to do it and I heard that it mess up your system (if done wrong) and applications.

Phil · 2 Weeks Ago

Dude, go to google and troll through it for 2 hours. after the time is up, you will see how easy (and downright addictive) overclocking is

**Godwin** · 1 Week Ago

Huh? What about the E8400? I wouldn't know anything about that.

Also PCSX2 section is pissing me off as it borderlines the hardware section way too freaking much. Also I updated the min. specs in the FAQ if anybody cares.

alexxb · 1 Week Ago

Those appear to be some nice specs. Would I be able to get those. I use these for heat control:

Newegg.com - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease
Newegg.com - XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

aegilnet · 1 Week Ago

I have the same system and I highly recommend this for your 8800 GT.

Accelero S1 Rev. 2

alexxb · 1 Week Ago

Actually, I may bump up the graphics card to a 9800 GTX (G92).

**Godwin** · 1 Week Ago

Moving to hardware.

Phil · 1 Week Ago

Forego that 9800 and get yourself an 8800 ultra (stock clock) NEW EVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra PCI-e Video Card 768MB SLI - eBay (item 180238098135 end time May-04-08 18:49:31 PDT)

alexxb · 5 Days Ago

The ultra is way too much for my budget.

Phil · 5 Days Ago

Not really. hit up ebay for some huge discounts.....8 searies cards are starting to drop fast. you can get an oc'ed 8800GTx for $315

2 Weeks Ago	#1 (permalink)
alexxb Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 25	So, What Kinda Speeds Can I Get?? I am building my PC and this is what I currently have. Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 (64 Bit) Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz ASUS P5N-D LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i SLI (Mobo) GeForce 9800 GTX (G92) 512 MB 4GB RAM DDR2 SDRAM I want to play Naruto (Ultimate Ninja 2 - Accel 2 and up), Bleach (Blade Battlers 2 and up), and DBZ BT2 and up. So, what kinda speeds can I get in these games?? I was also wondering if it could play other high demanding games like FF, Persona, GoW 2??, and etc. __________________ Clevo M570U/Sager 5760 (Benehime) Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83 GHz 2GB RAM 17" 1440x900 250GB HDD Nvidia 7900 GTX Last edited by alexxb; 5 Days Ago at 20:00.

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Phil ePSXe Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lockheed Skunkworks Posts: 2,487	perfect speeds......if you clock that e8400 to 3.8 ghz. (4 if you have a decent cooler) And just try it out......dont ask us first __________________ Antec P182 (Chrome Finish) * ThermalTake Toughpower 650w PSU 500GB Seagate * 74Gb Raptor * Asus P5K * 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 Ram * Windows 95

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alexxb Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 25	I will tr it out but I am still buying the parts (newegg) and making this fit into m 1150 budget. __________________ Clevo M570U/Sager 5760 (Benehime) Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83 GHz 2GB RAM 17" 1440x900 250GB HDD Nvidia 7900 GTX

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Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,469	Actually, no, Bleach Blade Battlers 2 currently cannot be played full speed...I do not know if it is a requirement issue or something, but on my system it crawls, and your system isn't so much better than mine to make a difference. Also, certain attacks by characters freeze the game and it cannot be played...considering NPC's usually automatically transform and use said attacks, it's Unplayable in my book(A few characters transformations run fine, sure, but 90% of them don't) DBZ games sure, you'll pwn them. Like said, OC that E8400. About Naruto though, I'm not sure, but I hear alot of complaints about those games...so good luck. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

2 Weeks Ago	#5 (permalink)
Phil ePSXe Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lockheed Skunkworks Posts: 2,487	Well if you want more in depth advice, make a thread in the hardware section Mkilbride, an 8400 clocked to 4.3 ghz probably will play it fullspeed __________________ Antec P182 (Chrome Finish) * ThermalTake Toughpower 650w PSU 500GB Seagate * 74Gb Raptor * Asus P5K * 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 Ram * Windows 95

2 Weeks Ago	#6 (permalink)
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,469	That amount of Extra MHZ could not amount to 25-35FPS required at some parts, unless it's mainly GPU limited, which it may be. I did not notice a slowdown even while upping the resolution though, it stayed at the same speed, top thing was at like 45-75% most of the time...so if you're saying 900MHZ would suffice? Even on a better architecture...hmm. Oh well, I dunno, it could be an emulation issue. I'm just making sure he doesn't come back here and complain about speed issues, sure, his system is going to be beefy, but BB2 is quite intensive. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

2 Weeks Ago	#7 (permalink)
alexxb Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 25	I don't plan to overclock the CPU anytime soon since it is new (would like to get 2 years before that). __________________ Clevo M570U/Sager 5760 (Benehime) Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83 GHz 2GB RAM 17" 1440x900 250GB HDD Nvidia 7900 GTX

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Phil ePSXe Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lockheed Skunkworks Posts: 2,487	Mkilbride: Still the same anti n00b dude as always. may be i should boot hockland out of your gang and take his place as n00b killer number 2 no overclock=no good speeds. simple as that....unless with disgea or ffx __________________ Antec P182 (Chrome Finish) * ThermalTake Toughpower 650w PSU 500GB Seagate * 74Gb Raptor * Asus P5K * 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 Ram * Windows 95

2 Weeks Ago	#9 (permalink)
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,469	Oh...what a waste, E8400 was almost built just to OC, it OC's easily...and so well. You'll probably get about the same performance than me, or a little better due to advanced architecture and yoru 9800GTX.(Did you edit that down to a 8800?) Please reconsider though, Over-clocking is safe and easy, and well worth it. It's almost a crime to buy a E8400 and NOT OC. I see your edit. Persona 3...not sure, @ 3.4GHZ, some battles get me down to 30FPS, and some scenes 25-27FPS, you really should OC it.(I've read a 4.0GHZ E8400 got full speed, even if only 600MHZ more, it's architecture is insane, I guess) GoW2...No one knows, as it isn't playable, but considering it's a late PS2 game...probably require a beast. FF's your set though. Also remember games that aren't emulated properly may not run full speed. Such as "Shadow Hearts' for example, even if I run it in DX10 mode and it barely uses my CPU or GPU, it can get down to 45FPS sometimes, due to not being emulated properly, and it's graphics are worse than FFX. Yet FFX can go 100FPS+ __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx Last edited by Mkilbride2588; 2 Weeks Ago at 07:23.

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Phil ePSXe Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lockheed Skunkworks Posts: 2,487	yeah i know. with a decent cooler, most games could run near full speed....and in some cases, beyond it. __________________ Antec P182 (Chrome Finish) * ThermalTake Toughpower 650w PSU 500GB Seagate * 74Gb Raptor * Asus P5K * 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 Ram * Windows 95

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alexxb Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 25	A cooler eh. I will OC, but I don't want to mess up my other apps. I have been told that the mobo and CPU are great for OC but I have no clue how to do it and I heard that it mess up your system (if done wrong) and applications. __________________ Clevo M570U/Sager 5760 (Benehime) Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83 GHz 2GB RAM 17" 1440x900 250GB HDD Nvidia 7900 GTX

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Phil ePSXe Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lockheed Skunkworks Posts: 2,487	Dude, go to google and troll through it for 2 hours. after the time is up, you will see how easy (and downright addictive) overclocking is __________________ Antec P182 (Chrome Finish) * ThermalTake Toughpower 650w PSU 500GB Seagate * 74Gb Raptor * Asus P5K * 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 Ram * Windows 95

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Godwin Sleeping on the job Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Capitalist Nation Posts: 856	Huh? What about the E8400? I wouldn't know anything about that. Also PCSX2 section is pissing me off as it borderlines the hardware section way too freaking much. Also I updated the min. specs in the FAQ if anybody cares. __________________ 昨日にさよなら。 Intel E8400 @ 4.1Ghz // P35-DS3R // Transcend aXeram (D9 Microns) DDR2-1026 5-5-5-15 // MSI 8800GT OC

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alexxb Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 25	Those appear to be some nice specs. Would I be able to get those. I use these for heat control: Newegg.com - Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - Thermal Compound / Grease Newegg.com - XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks __________________ Clevo M570U/Sager 5760 (Benehime) Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83 GHz 2GB RAM 17" 1440x900 250GB HDD Nvidia 7900 GTX

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aegilnet Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: FL Posts: 6	I have the same system and I highly recommend this for your 8800 GT. Accelero S1 Rev. 2 __________________ Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.6Ghz (stock fan), Ballistix 2GB DDR2 800Mhz (5-5-5-18) GA-P35-DS3L (rev. 2.0), EVGA 8800GT 512M 680/1700/2000 with Accelero S1 Rev 2 Hitachi 500GB 7200 RPM 16M Cache SATA II, Windows XP Home SP2 22" LCD Samsung 226BW (1680x1050, 60Hz), Logitech G5 Laser Mouse (2000 dpi) Last edited by aegilnet; 1 Week Ago at 16:09.

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alexxb Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 25	Actually, I may bump up the graphics card to a 9800 GTX (G92). __________________ Clevo M570U/Sager 5760 (Benehime) Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83 GHz 2GB RAM 17" 1440x900 250GB HDD Nvidia 7900 GTX

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Godwin Sleeping on the job Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Capitalist Nation Posts: 856	Moving to hardware. __________________ 昨日にさよなら。 Intel E8400 @ 4.1Ghz // P35-DS3R // Transcend aXeram (D9 Microns) DDR2-1026 5-5-5-15 // MSI 8800GT OC

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Phil ePSXe Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lockheed Skunkworks Posts: 2,487	Forego that 9800 and get yourself an 8800 ultra (stock clock) NEW EVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra PCI-e Video Card 768MB SLI - eBay (item 180238098135 end time May-04-08 18:49:31 PDT) __________________ Antec P182 (Chrome Finish) * ThermalTake Toughpower 650w PSU 500GB Seagate * 74Gb Raptor * Asus P5K * 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 Ram * Windows 95

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alexxb Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Los Angeles,CA Posts: 25	The ultra is way too much for my budget. __________________ Clevo M570U/Sager 5760 (Benehime) Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83 GHz 2GB RAM 17" 1440x900 250GB HDD Nvidia 7900 GTX

5 Days Ago	#20 (permalink)
Phil ePSXe Beta Tester Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lockheed Skunkworks Posts: 2,487	Not really. hit up ebay for some huge discounts.....8 searies cards are starting to drop fast. you can get an oc'ed 8800GTx for $315 __________________ Antec P182 (Chrome Finish) * ThermalTake Toughpower 650w PSU 500GB Seagate * 74Gb Raptor * Asus P5K * 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 Ram * Windows 95

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