Help me build a badass PC circa 2001 - Page 2

runawayprisoner · April 13th, 2008

Voodoo's were the best cards in those years.

I mean... if you are going to play pre-95 games. 95-98 games would do well with TNT2, and 98 games and beyond just like GeForce 2 and Radeon 7xxx cards.

Afrodziac · April 13th, 2008

what do u think of this..

Newegg.com - BIOSTAR VP5200SL16 GeForce FX 5200 128MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Low Profile Ready Video Card - Desktop Graphics

the fx 5200 is a low end card from about 2005, but isnt it like major overkill for any windows 98 game at any resolution? its AGP and supports win98

runawayprisoner · April 13th, 2008

It might have compatibility issues with some games. Actually, even a GeForce 4 MX might have issues... for instance, with FF7 or FF8.

PCXL-Fan · April 13th, 2008

yeah its a pretty decent card. More than enough for games that support direct x. If you want a Glide capable card you'll need a 3dfx card.

:edit: true, i've never been able to get my athlon 1200mhz + geforce 4200ti working properly with FF7 , though i just suspect it is a windows XP issue and not so much a hardware incompatability issue.

Phil · April 13th, 2008

how about this one?

Newegg.com - HIS Hightech H165PRQ512AN-R Radeon X1650PRO 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Desktop Graphics

runawayprisoner · April 13th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCXL-Fan

yeah its a pretty decent card. More than enough for games that support direct x. If you want a Glide capable card you'll need a 3dfx card.

:edit: true, i've never been able to get my athlon 1200mhz + geforce 4200ti working properly with FF7 , though i just suspect it is a windows XP issue and not so much a hardware incompatability issue.

You need a TNT2... or something below it. for that one game... D:

Edit: And... even MGS2 PC, which was released in like... 2001-2002 (?) had issues with cards past Radeon 8xxx and GeForce 4 series. It only worked when... a certain "some kid" discovered a way to hex edit the 2.0 patch... by accident. (Because he was into hex editing GBA games back then)

I bet you won't believe who that little prick was.

Afrodziac · April 13th, 2008

Ok so whats the best overkill video card, for these older games?

Phil · April 13th, 2008

x1950 pro hands down

Afrodziac · April 13th, 2008

that wont cause compatibility problems lol

runawayprisoner · April 13th, 2008

Hmm... TNT2. I can't find anything that would work as good as that one for games older than 95... and newer than 97. Of course, I have that card.

PCXL-Fan · April 13th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

You need a TNT2... or something below it. for that one game... D:

Edit: And... even MGS2 PC, which was released in like... 2001-2002 (?) had issues with cards past Radeon 8xxx and GeForce 4 series. It only worked when... a certain "some kid" discovered a way to hex edit the 2.0 patch... by accident. (Because he was into hex editing GBA games back then)

I bet you won't believe who that little prick was.

No I actually had my 32mb tnt2 agp card installed in the comp before getting the 4200ti with Windows me installed and the game wouldn't run and would constantly crash. But in this case i think it was a Windows ME problem.

runawayprisoner · April 13th, 2008

Windows 98 SE is recommended for FF7.

But really... I once had a perfect FF7 and FF8 PC computer. Celeron 500MHz, 128MB of SDRAM, Trident3D VGA adapter (onboard) with 8MB of VRAM and everything...
Gee... little stupid me did not know how valuable that rig was. It could run FF7, FF8 and all other games before those games flawlessly... without lags or anything... at highest settings!

skoreanime · April 13th, 2008

I have a spare GeForce 2 MX 400 and Diamond Viper 64MB lying in my desk

Kept them just for the memories, but I'm pretty sure they still work

Memulator91k · April 13th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrodziac

Yes 2001. I want to build a box just to play Pre 2001 Windows 98 games that wont run in Xp. Redneck Rampage, Dino Crisis 1 and 2, etc. Reason I am looking into a 2001 rig, is because thats basically when 98 games kinda slowed down and new games were mostly released for xp and 2000 and ME. if memory serves me correct the system to have back then was

Athlon Xp 1800+
Geofrce 4 Ti or Radeon 9700/9500 Pro
256 Ram ( for Win98 dunno if u want to go higher)

does this sound about right?

That PC is more powerful than the PC I am using
I got an

AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.33GHZ
Geforce2 mx 100/200
256mb ram.

So uhmm wanna trade?

SCHUMI-4-EVA · April 13th, 2008

Both the GeForce 2 and the TNT2 are legendary when it comes to graphics cards.

If you could find either of those that would be perfect methinks and RAP seems to agree at least on the TNT2 so it must be true.

Afrodziac · April 13th, 2008

what flavors did the geforce 2 come in? Ti and mmx?

Phil · April 14th, 2008

Wild and mild.

Zack · April 14th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Yep... that's the most important point. You don't know if you only need a $150 desktop... (and yeah, I can do $150 desktops.

)

Do you ever stop trying to sell people pc's on here?

Phil · April 14th, 2008

Rap is a first class hustler, and theres nothing you can do about it

PCXL-Fan · April 14th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrodziac

what flavors did the geforce 2 come in? Ti and mmx?

MX only appied to the budget cards.
There were GTS, Pro, Ti and top of the line Ultra models as well.

April 13th, 2008	#21 (permalink)
runawayprisoner Google-translated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 3,382	Voodoo's were the best cards in those years. I mean... if you are going to play pre-95 games. 95-98 games would do well with TNT2, and 98 games and beyond just like GeForce 2 and Radeon 7xxx cards. __________________ My best friend: Kopu: Asus Eee PC 701 Next best friend: Gamu CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @ 3.80GHz RAM: 2GB of DDR2 800MHz (brandless, and brainless) GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4850 @ 800/1100 Good for PCSX2: overclock, overclock, and even more overclock.

April 13th, 2008	#23 (permalink)
runawayprisoner Google-translated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 3,382	It might have compatibility issues with some games. Actually, even a GeForce 4 MX might have issues... for instance, with FF7 or FF8. __________________ My best friend: Kopu: Asus Eee PC 701 Next best friend: Gamu CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @ 3.80GHz RAM: 2GB of DDR2 800MHz (brandless, and brainless) GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4850 @ 800/1100 Good for PCSX2: overclock, overclock, and even more overclock.

April 13th, 2008	#24 (permalink)
PCXL-Fan professor el tasto' Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada ──────────────────── PC Accelerator (aka PCXL) was a Computer gaming magazine published from 1997 until 2000 Posts: 2,322	yeah its a pretty decent card. More than enough for games that support direct x. If you want a Glide capable card you'll need a 3dfx card. :edit: true, i've never been able to get my athlon 1200mhz + geforce 4200ti working properly with FF7 , though i just suspect it is a windows XP issue and not so much a hardware incompatability issue. __________________ E6600 Core 2 Duo Geforce 8800GTX @ Stock Speed. 1x 2.1GB HDD, 1x 1.4GB HDD Windows XP Pro Sp2. \| Flexing my penticeps for tri-mammaried ladies across the world \| gamersat678's Bug Reporter \|\|\| cottonvibe's pcsx2 guide for noobs \|\|\| GSdx plugin

April 13th, 2008	#25 (permalink)
Phil PCSX3 Coder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland, where the big boys play. Posts: 3,088	how about this one? Newegg.com - HIS Hightech H165PRQ512AN-R Radeon X1650PRO 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Desktop Graphics __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5K : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Feser UV anti kink 1/2" ID tubing : Danger Den D5

April 13th, 2008	#28 (permalink)
Phil PCSX3 Coder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland, where the big boys play. Posts: 3,088	x1950 pro hands down __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5K : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Feser UV anti kink 1/2" ID tubing : Danger Den D5

April 13th, 2008	#22 (permalink)
Afrodziac Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 132	what do u think of this.. Newegg.com - BIOSTAR VP5200SL16 GeForce FX 5200 128MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Low Profile Ready Video Card - Desktop Graphics the fx 5200 is a low end card from about 2005, but isnt it like major overkill for any windows 98 game at any resolution? its AGP and supports win98

April 13th, 2008	#27 (permalink)
Afrodziac Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 132	Ok so whats the best overkill video card, for these older games?

April 13th, 2008	#29 (permalink)
Afrodziac Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 132	that wont cause compatibility problems lol

April 13th, 2008	#30 (permalink)
runawayprisoner Google-translated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 3,382	Hmm... TNT2. I can't find anything that would work as good as that one for games older than 95... and newer than 97. Of course, I have that card. __________________ My best friend: Kopu: Asus Eee PC 701 Next best friend: Gamu CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @ 3.80GHz RAM: 2GB of DDR2 800MHz (brandless, and brainless) GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4850 @ 800/1100 Good for PCSX2: overclock, overclock, and even more overclock.

April 13th, 2008	#32 (permalink)
runawayprisoner Google-translated Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 3,382	Windows 98 SE is recommended for FF7. But really... I once had a perfect FF7 and FF8 PC computer. Celeron 500MHz, 128MB of SDRAM, Trident3D VGA adapter (onboard) with 8MB of VRAM and everything... Gee... little stupid me did not know how valuable that rig was. It could run FF7, FF8 and all other games before those games flawlessly... without lags or anything... at highest settings! __________________ My best friend: Kopu: Asus Eee PC 701 Next best friend: Gamu CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @ 3.80GHz RAM: 2GB of DDR2 800MHz (brandless, and brainless) GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4850 @ 800/1100 Good for PCSX2: overclock, overclock, and even more overclock.

April 13th, 2008	#33 (permalink)
skoreanime Insomniac in training... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,633	I have a spare GeForce 2 MX 400 and Diamond Viper 64MB lying in my desk Kept them just for the memories, but I'm pretty sure they still work __________________ Born free, riding free, living free. Always be free. Q6600 @ 3Ghz, 333x9 Gigabyte DS3R, Rev1.0 Patriot Extreme DDR2 PC-6400RAM BFG 9800GX2 @ stock

April 13th, 2008	#35 (permalink)
SCHUMI-4-EVA Devastating Force Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Xenophobia FTL Posts: 4,602	Both the GeForce 2 and the TNT2 are legendary when it comes to graphics cards. If you could find either of those that would be perfect methinks and RAP seems to agree at least on the TNT2 so it must be true. __________________ AMD Athlon64 3700+ (2.2Ghz rated as 3.7Ghz Pentium), ASUS A8NE-FM (OEM), 4x512MB DDR400 RAM, ATI Radeon X850XT (256MB GDDR3 PCIe), Seagate Barracuda 320GB SATA2 HDD, Windows XP SP2 Home, Leadtek Winfast TV2000 XP Expert, Creative Sound Blaster Audigy Value Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! The Champ has retired, but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!!

April 13th, 2008	#36 (permalink)
Afrodziac Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 132	what flavors did the geforce 2 come in? Ti and mmx?

April 14th, 2008	#37 (permalink)
Phil PCSX3 Coder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland, where the big boys play. Posts: 3,088	Wild and mild. __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5K : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Feser UV anti kink 1/2" ID tubing : Danger Den D5

April 14th, 2008	#39 (permalink)
Phil PCSX3 Coder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland, where the big boys play. Posts: 3,088	Rap is a first class hustler, and theres nothing you can do about it __________________ Antec P182 Special Edition (Chrome Finish) : Intel e8400 : Thermaltake ToughPower 650 watt PSU : Corsair Dominater DHX 1066 DDR2 Ram : Asus P5K : 500 Gb Seagate : 74 GB Raptor : Samsung 20x DVD optical Drive : Samsung Syncmaster T220 22" LCD : Windows 95 : XFX 8800gt Cooling: Swiftech Apogee GTX Special Edition (Copper Finish) : Feser X-Changer Dual 120mm Radiator : XSPC Bay Resevoir : Danger den Chrome Barbs : Feser UV anti kink 1/2" ID tubing : Danger Den D5

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