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Old April 13th, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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Motherboard FSB

Im gonna ask a rather stupid question, which i probably know, i just want some clarification. I may buy the C2De8400 in a few months (or maybe better at that point) but the fsb on those is 1333 and my motherboard, on the box anyway says 1033 i beileve, so i would have to get a new board wouldnt i?
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That depends. What motherboard? The one in your sig?
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Get a new board... \o/
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Yes the mobo in my sig, i dont know i was looking at this one then before i switch to a new processor, Newegg.com - Foxconn X38A LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
It looks alright, im gonna ead more reviews though, and i gotta make the money

or if anyone knows a good board, that is fairly cheap, at most 200$ (couple extra dollars wont matter) But i want it too be able to OC well, and have the SLI support(not sure if i will use, but just in case) And that it can take more than 8gb of ram or at least 8. (mine now can take 32 gbs)
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theres a lot to choose from.....you want x38 or p35?
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[Mini-Review] EVGA 750I SLI FTW (470FSB with Quad-core !!) - XtremeSystems Forums

Actual board:
Newegg.com - EVGA 123-YW-E175-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 750i FTW SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

'Nuff said! That's the best board you can get for the price... that will support SLI. X38 and P35 chipsets don't support SLI... sadly!

But let's take a look at the features:
- Full 45nm processors support
- Dual-channel DDR2 RAM up to 1066MHz
- 2x PCI-Express x16 slots... at x16! (most others have x16 and x8 or x4)
- Actively cooled NB (now that's what I call "enthusiast" )

Edit: While supplies last... hurry!
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@Rap Altough the board is indeed very nice and I would also want one , it's still not necessary for him to go all out on the money
The features are all very nice, but not necessary ^_^

And again I want to promote my own MB, which costs 70$ less and is able to do the trick. Atlough I've read a lot of negative things about it, I don't know what the fuss is all about, since I had no problems with the installation, everything works fine, and it's a decent OC'er if you want to OC.

Newegg.com - ASUS P5N-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

But let's take a look at the features like Rap did:
- 45nm processors support (except for the Q9xxx series, this could change in the futures *hopes *)
- Dual-channel DDR2 RAM up to 800MHz (who needs higher?)
- 2x PCI-Express x16 slots @ 8x in SLI (indeed it is not x16....)

But just before I post this, I'm looking at the specs of your mobo, and it's almost practically the same (same chipset, the 650i SLI)

Universal abit > Motherboard, Digital Speakers, iDome, AirPace, Multimedia
It evens notes that it supports 1333mhz fsb cpu's.

But when I look at the CPU support list for the MB, I see the QX9650 listed, but none of the other E8xxx series or the Q9xxx series.
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Well, no 45nm quad support means... trouble?
DDR2 RAM needs to go beyond 800 if you want *good* overclocks.

That board has the 750i SLI chipset, which is essentially... same NB as 780i, different SB. You are talking about a 650i board, which supports 45nm duals at most... but doesn't have support for 45nm quad for some bizarre reason (nVidia's fault, anyone?).

The 16x slots wouldn't have been necessary... if they weren't both PCI-Express 2.0, which is guaranteed to give you quite a nice boost if you ever go SLI.
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Well, no 45nm quad support means... trouble?
DDR2 RAM needs to go beyond 800 if you want *good* overclocks.

That board has the 750i SLI chipset, which is essentially... same NB as 780i, different SB. You are talking about a 650i board, which supports 45nm duals at most... but doesn't have support for 45nm quad for some bizarre reason (nVidia's fault, anyone?).

The 16x slots wouldn't have been necessary... if they weren't both PCI-Express 2.0, which is guaranteed to give you quite a nice boost if you ever go SLI.
Hmm perhaps I'll rephrase a bit.
What I meant to say was: He only asked for a decent Mobo that supports the E8400 and SLI. He didn't mention OC's or fancy DDR2 ram for OC'ing.
Sadly his mobo only supports the 65nm duals and quads that go up to 1333mhz on fsb. (still wonder what that QX9650 did on that list then......)
So perhaps he's only looking for a mobo that supports the E8400 with SLI but doesn't want to spend too much money on it. (would be smart since Nehalem will need a totally new mobo if I read correctly.)
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Nehalem would require... a new motherboard, new DDR3 ram sticks (yes sir... no DDR2 support. And guess what? DDR3 in tri-channel! That means you need three sticks to get the most of it!), and if you don't have one already, a new graphics card. That'll be more than $600 just for the CPU, the motherboard, and the RAM sticks. If you can't even afford this board, then don't bother... really.

And like I said, he wouldn't want to spend extra money for... another 650i board. I mean... what's the point? If he updates his BIOS, he might just be able to run the 45nm dual-core processors, anyway. So that defeat the purpose of an upgrade. If you're upgrading, just get what "properly" supports 45nm processors (as in supporting all of them) instead of half-ass support only for specific 45nm processors. Really... that'd be more worth it as an upgrade.
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If he updates his BIOS, he might just be able to run the 45nm dual-core processors,
Yeah i did get the bios upgrade and i can now too, but im getting fed up with my board. For some reason its booting slow as all hell!!! and wortany
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But i want it too be able to OC well,
anyway, i do like the way that board looks runawayprisoner, i may keep that in mind. Although i was looking at another board on newegg, that supported ddr2 and ddr3. But i'd have to look into that a little more.
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Ow hehe, sorry I forgot about the post in the middle saying you wanted to OC aswell
Well I went through the site of Abit, and it didn't mention anything for 45nm cpu support with a bios upgrade. So my bad I guess.
That's why I suggested another board (btw it's still a decent OC'er ).
And since you didn't mention a price range, I thought I'd keep it a little lower. (And who doesn't want the board that Rap suggested? )
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or if anyone knows a good board, that is fairly cheap, at most 200$ (couple extra dollars wont matter)

hehe, anyway, thanks for the suggestions. I dont know, i dont think im really liking abit as much anymore...
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Oh yeah, just as a precaution, P35/X38/P33/G33/G35/X48 boards don't support SLI. They only support Crossfire.
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Last thing I'll say is: I'll just shut up......I seem to miss everything you said in that post ...Soz ^^
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