AMD vs Intel (2008)

[StergioS]

Originally Posted by godseeker

hmm the difference between AMD&INTEL:
INTEL:optimise they cpu for the current programs,games... for one or two years...but 3 years or more later when programs and games don't use the same algorithm anymore intel processor begin to show their real weakness because they are based and optimised for the older algorithm
AMD:by far more power, potential and overall the best cpu ,not just because they are able to survive longer (with the same capacity) but because of their significally less prices (no weakness too)


im an rpg fan so i'll give you a funny exemple
let's say Cloud(FF7) has a sword named cpu intel sword (cpu intel has fire element) and he is in the north area where all enemy weak to fire so cpu intel strik for 9999damage here ,let's switch to cpu amd sword (cpu amd has the null element) we see that cpu amd strik for 8000 damage so for now cpu intel are more powerful ,20h of playing later and we are in the desert where the enemy are resistant to fire or indifferent ,so cpu intel strikes for 1000 damage or 5000 damage but cpu amd always strikes for 8000 damage so if you plan to buy a new cpu each year or two stick with intel else go for an amd .
i'm an intel fun because each time i buy intel it does 9999 damage and its awesome ,for now i begin to think about buying only amd cpu because i'don't want to throw my older systems (amd cpu can work not just as cpu (if you are expert in electrics) )

why would intel cpu performance decrease in time? your logic is wrong....

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[corvex]

I was recently reading that AMD is going to try and come back into the high-end market with the Phenom FX line in 2009, anyone excited about it ... O and by the way, does anyone know if and when AMD comes out with their 45nm processors if they are going to be better than intel's 45nm or atleast catch up..?

[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by corvex

I was recently reading that AMD is going to try and come back into the high-end market with the Phenom FX line in 2009, anyone excited about it ... O and by the way, does anyone know if and when AMD comes out with their 45nm processors if they are going to be better than intel's 45nm or atleast catch up..?

You fail, this thread is "AMD vs Intel (2008)" not "AMD vs Intel (2009)"

[QuantumDelta]

Originally Posted by gamefreak94

just an example, competition's good everywhere. Before AMD came around in home PC's, Intel procs were super expensive, but with the Pentium series, that kinda changed. Their mainstream procs were also cheaper and they came up with the Celeron series for budget minded buyers, just like the Pentium dual-core and Celeron D do so now.
BTW, anyone got an idea as to what kind of budget chips will appear with Nehalem, cost, specs etc?

They didn't "come around" they had to win a freakin' legal battle because Intel thought they owned the CPU and it should only therefore have been produced by them at whatever price they dictated.

[corvex]

Originally Posted by John Aiton

You fail, this thread is "AMD vs Intel (2008)" not "AMD vs Intel (2009)"

lol yes I know that, but you still didn't answer my question.

[tuanming]

Currenly, the only good thing i see in AMD are their graphic cards market side...

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[Fadingz]

There is no way an AMD CPU can come close to 4GHz on air cooling lol

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[gamefreak94]

Originally Posted by QuantumDelta

They didn't "come around" they had to win a freakin' legal battle because Intel thought they owned the CPU and it should only therefore have been produced by them at whatever price they dictated.

I for one thought that the only legal battle Intel was waging at around the time of the Pentium was with Cyrix.

Originally Posted by Fadingz

There is no way an AMD CPU can come close to 4GHz on air cooling lol

Think the highest OC on record for a Phenom is 4GHz or something. In contrast, a meager Q6600 (with 2 cores disabled) has been successfully OCed to 5.12GHz by Tom's Hardware, but on LN2 cooling that is

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[StriderVM]

If I remember my past browsing experience, yep, the current Phenoms would be lucky to overclock past 3.6Ghz on air cooling. With some good tweaking on BIOS settings, 3.2Ghz is a good overclock for the 4X Phenoms......

And now for something completely different. The Athlon64 X2 6500.......

http://en.expreview.com/2008/09/09/u...-x2-6500-pics/

At first it sounds sucky..... 2.3Ghz? 6500? Sounds shady.....

On the smaller details.... a 2.3Ghz unlocked Athlon64 X2 based on the Phenom architecture which runs about 20% faster on SuperPi compared to the X2 5000 Black Edition. And only running at 1.24v ...... Looks like I might still have a last upgrade path yet.....

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[shafeen]

damn made a mistake by voting for amd

intel rocks <<i still love my p4 even after 6 years its working without a lag>

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[gamefreak94]

Originally Posted by StriderVM

If I remember my past browsing experience, yep, the current Phenoms would be lucky to overclock past 3.6Ghz on air cooling. With some good tweaking on BIOS settings, 3.2Ghz is a good overclock for the 4X Phenoms......

Actually, I copied that fact from one of your previous posts

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Well I have been holding off on voting hoping that AMD would come up with something...but no, now that my an upgrade for me is around the corner I have to give the crown to Intel as I am aiming for an E8500. I am not impressed at all by the new Core i7s though....

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[StriderVM]

Oh .... In that case..... That 4Ghz 65nm Phenon X4 overclock was with a LN2.

.... I'm still interested to see the potential of the new process Phenoms.

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[godseeker]

we have a serious problem
guys if we don't save AMD w're doomed.i mean without amd the price of intel will grow like 3X or more and they will become lazy
i'll start buying AMD cpu from now on (phenom is really good and less expensive)

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[StriderVM]

Don't worry.... AMD won't disappear from the face of the earth, either technically or literally.

... You make it sound as if every person is an enthusiast and browse PC hardware websites and stuff go get their information. There are even people who think their Pentium 4's are the fastest because it has the biggest speed.

There currently two persons that buys computers, those that get what they see in commercials (Intel) or those or just wanna buy the cheapest things around. (AMD)

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[redlofredlof]

right now AMD is weaker than intel in most aspects. at least mine is. just consider AMD's performance and intel's performance in terms of emulation.

I'd go with AMD just because i have one.
but my next upgrade will definitely have an intel cpu in the list.

[gamefreak94]

Originally Posted by redlofredlof

I'd go with AMD just because i have one.

Way to go, unfair biased behavior Anyway, I had the Athlon 4400 on my list when I brought this PC, and I'm glad I went for my E2160. Heck, with a decent PSU, I could easily clock this to 3GHz.

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[guymelef]

Intel wins 2008.

I love AMD. The price and performance under stress is incredible. I have had no problems with my k6, k7, dual socket 462 (A), 939, am2, am2+. All of them were solid budget buys and flawless performance. The dual setup was the only one to give me heat issues, strangely, only the memory was affected.

The 2008 intels are more powerful. props to intel. When I want to spend more than 120 USD for a retail processor I'll look them up.

Originally Posted by godseeker

there was the TLB BUG when i decided to upgrade my motherboard also they wasn't any good AMD motherboard so i just got the best intel mother with a good e6750.and as i said the intel is more suitable to guys who buys a new cpu each year or two (i'm one of those)

When the both the AM2 and AM2+ were launched MOBOs were woefully crappy. Even ASUS had major QC issues. Either AMD didn't give 3rd party companies a good enough heads up, or people are getting lazy and just want to be handed the same damn CPU with just a ramp up because of grossly overspent price on nanometer technology.

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[gamefreak94]

I don't get why people say AMD's better in the 'bang for the buck' criteria. My chip is at par with more expensive Athlons like the 4600+ which is actually a bit more expensive. Advice: If you want a cheap dual-core up to 2.4GHz, get the E2xxx series. If you want anything more, you should invest in an E7200 which only costs $125 here and will easily surpass each and every Athlon out there. And I'm not even talking about the overclocking capability of the Intels.

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[guymelef]

Originally Posted by gamefreak94

I don't get why people say AMD's better in the 'bang for the buck' criteria. My chip is at par with more expensive Athlons like the 4600+ which is actually a bit more expensive. Advice: If you want a cheap dual-core up to 2.4GHz, get the E2xxx series. If you want anything more, you should invest in an E7200 which only costs $125 here and will easily surpass each and every Athlon out there. And I'm not even talking about the overclocking capability of the Intels.

This thread was started quite some time ago. And just like prices have fallen for old intel stock, so have the prices for AMD.