AMD vs Intel (2008)

[runawayprisoner]

Actually, that's really how AMD Overdrive should look like. The first window will always have that kind of gap. That's why I didn't discredit that one. Here's a similar one:



Plus there are some golden Agena that can do 3.5GHz at only 1.35v, so I guess it still has some truths in there.

But I still doubt its stability. ;p

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[Squall-Leonhart]

you can tell by zooming in on the pic, theres Pixelation to the right of the clock speed in cpuz, but not to the left, which means its been cut and pasted from another app.

not to mention that had the cpu been actually running at the setings in amd overdrive, the core voltage would be increased as well.

there simply is no way that cpu would be running at 4ghz as they could barely get the 2.3ghz to 3.5ghz stably.

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Actually, that's really how AMD Overdrive should look like. The first window will always have that kind of gap. That's why I didn't discredit that one. Here's a similar one:



Plus there are some golden Agena that can do 3.5GHz at only 1.35v, so I guess it still has some truths in there.

But I still doubt its stability. ;p

no you bonehead! zoom in on CPU-Z.
Theres a space devoid of pixels on the left of the clock speed.

JPG compression would place pixels on both sides of undoctored text.

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[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

that picture is fake.

The deneb requires 1.5x voltages to run at 3.44ghz stable. theres no way it'll run at 4ghz on near stock voltage.

yep, there is a gap between the numbers and pixels meaning its been edited.

I think it's just misreading the voltage to be lower than it is

and I take it to be this pic you are referring to?

[runawayprisoner]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

no you bonehead! zoom in on CPU-Z.
Theres a space devoid of pixels on the left of the clock speed.

JPG compression would place pixels on both sides of undoctored text.

lol But I don't have insect eyes!!

Okay... you got me. Yeah, that one spot looks suspiciously clean. I'll give credit to you and spread this around now. Hmm... should that be Squall-Leonhart of NGemu?

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[Squall-Leonhart]

bah screw that, just say john found it, that way if its real he takes the blame. hahahahaha

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[runawayprisoner]

Gah, fine, I'll just post it, and if anyone praises someone, I'll say it's you. Now... for some truths and dares...

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[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

bah screw that, just say john found it, that way if its real he takes the blame. hahahahaha

yarr

deneb is know to show the wrong voltage reading on certain x48 boards anyway

and there is one very simple way of this having way better clocks than the first deneb leaks,
amd are starting deneb without high k metal gate,
but it's rumoured that they are going that way with later revisions of deneb

maybe this is one of the very premature hk/mg chips

[runawayprisoner]

What? Deneb on X48 boards? Okay... now I know what happened. April fools!!



But it's almost August?

P.S.: just posted on XS. Now... I'm ready for getting flamed to death.

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[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

What? Deneb on X48 boards? Okay... now I know what happened. April fools!!



But it's almost August?

P.S.: just posted on XS. Now... I'm ready for getting flamed to death.

x48 lulz, typing x48 is force of habit being an intel supporter for now.
Maybe it's a sign i should go to bed

[Squall-Leonhart]

i think i'll wait for montreal then.

octacores ftw.

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[cottonvibes]

the "clean" spots in those pics are just because of the way JPEG compression works.

if you have a big-section all of the same color, then there won't be alot of pixelization.
notice that in other empty places in that pic theres no pixelization.

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[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

i think i'll wait for montreal then.

octacores ftw.

yep, quads aren't a good upgrade path for now with all the octocores coming soon

[runawayprisoner]

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

the "clean" spots in those pics are just because of the way JPEG compression works.

if you have a big-section all of the same color, then there won't be alot of pixelization.
notice that in other empty places in that pic theres no pixelization.

That means that the clean spots are not of the same color as the artifacted ones, because I just noticed that there's clean, and straight cut right in between that clean spot and the numbers. If you look around, you'll see that the artifacts should spread out a bit at least. It does so on the right side of those spaces, but not on the left side. That was what Squall was trying to tell me.

Originally Posted by John Aiton

yep, quads aren't a good upgrade path for now with all the octocores coming soon

You need a PS3...

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[guymelef]

Well INTEL won this thread and it's time to shut up and wait till next year.

Thanks guys, it's been real. I'll still be using AMD until then.

My pc's are disposable and cheap, so that's how I build them.

[Glaedrin]

Well, for the hole ambient temp thing I guess you guys could just get A/Cs (my house has almost no insulation and I live in Florida, I'd die w/o A/C)

And on the point about AMD CPUs overheating? LMFAO!!! What happened when you Asians started using the P4 Prescotts, or dare I say the Pentium Ds?!?!

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

That means that the clean spots are not of the same color as the artifacted ones, because I just noticed that there's clean, and straight cut right in between that clean spot and the numbers. If you look around, you'll see that the artifacts should spread out a bit at least. It does so on the right side of those spaces, but not on the left side. That was what Squall was trying to tell me.



You need a PS3...

Indeed rap, if you look at those other seemingly clean sections, they aren't actually, there is slight distortion in these seemingly blank spots. Where as there aren't in the Core and HT Clocks

Btw it wasn't bug eyes, i have just trained my eyes to spot little things like that from a distance... it helps when i start messing with images.

I actually removed the hud from a Farcry scene using an image editor, it wasn't that bad since then i've gotten better at scene blending.

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its pretty noticeble to see where i've edited, but being one of my first image modifications im not gunna change it :P

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[runawayprisoner]

Shoulda at least used Photoshop to blend that part in with some blurring filters, eh? Mmm... and the hud is there?

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[gamefreak94]

And on the point about AMD CPUs overheating? LMFAO!!! What happened when you Asians started using the P4 Prescotts, or dare I say the Pentium Ds?!?!

Absolutely nothing. The P4 Prescotts had no problems though I cant say for the Pentium Ds cuz they never reached here!

Well, for the hole ambient temp thing I guess you guys could just get A/Cs (my house has almost no insulation and I live in Florida, I'd die w/o A/C)

Not even tycoons here can afford 24 hour centrally ACed houses, it'd burn your all your lifes savings! At most you can have em on at night so you can sleep well.

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gamefreak :

I think... I don't believe what you said..... No Athlons appeared in Asia! Only Pentium 3s!!!!!

Seriously though the main problem with Athlons is that the computer sellers are dumb and tried to use K6 heatsinks on the Athlons.... And now they blaim it on Athlon's being too hot.... And because Athlons don't have thermal throttling.....

Also.... The availability of the Athlon, Thunderbirds and even Athlon XP were pretty limited at that time in Asia. Let's just say that in every 100 computers, 65 of them uses Pentium 3's..... The remaining 34 are K6-2s and one is an Athlon (No joke). Let's just say the only game in town in that time is the Pentiums. You can buy Athlons but at seriously jacked prices. Value isn't good anymore.... And shall I say it's impossible to find the K6-3 in Asia too......

Then the Pentium 4 era........ Only the Durons and Semprons existed....... The Athlon XP's were nowhere to be found in normal shops.... Only you could special order them. At higher prices.... So there's no reason for normal users to buy them....

Besides, they don't monitor their temps. At least on that time. Explains the Pentium 4's never overheating, because they were thermal throttling in the first place.

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[gamefreak94]

I think... I don't believe what you said..... No Athlons appeared in Asia! Only Pentium 3s!!!!!

Nooooo I'm not saying that! I'm saying Pentium Ds haven't become very popular here.

Athlons, Semprons, Turions, Opterons and Phenoms are present here, but its just that you wont come across them at every showcase on every shop in the market. And for some reason, AMD chips cost a lot more here, a 2.2 GHz Athlon X2 costs marginally less then an E2200 (also 2.2 GHz) so this combined with the already bad reputation of AMDs overheating makes them very rare to come across on home PCs. As a reslt of this, the number of chipsets and mobos which offer support for these chips is also very limited.

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