AMD vs Intel (2008)

[LoneWolf]

hey guys i have a question will the 6 core i7 use the same socket as the 4 core i7

and will the core i5 also use the same socket

[skoreanime]

Ummm, yes.

[LoneWolf]

i heard core i5 will use another socket maybe LGA 1156

[skoreanime]

Oh right, the i5. I just answered the first question

But yeah, the i5 will use a different socket type. Which is quite odd. I don't think Intel or AMDs ever run 2 socket types before at the same time.

[Phil]

Call it a bait and switch.

Intel is covering there bases

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[skoreanime]

I'm just thinking they made the i5 cause no one was really wanting to dish out the dough for DDR3 RAM. Seeing as how they had to buy a new motherboard for i7 and not be able to re use their favorite DDR2 RAM...

I've been reading lots of enthusiasm for i5s. Lots of older generation Core 2 owners seem to be interested in them. Heck, even I'm interested in them unless AMDs budget line can woo me

[StriderVM]

Decided to go to the dark side.....

The day Exteel Philippine Server decided to open is the day my second motherboard (Third technically) decided to say goodbye.

Since Imma gonna try the Core2Duos and their OC capabilites, I bought one of the cheapest mobos out there for testing. (AsRock 945GCM-S + a Pentium Dual Core E5200.)

Since the ECS mobo is still under warranty I'm turning it in for repairs.

Then I'll be selling the Athlon64 5600 X2 + ECS 780G.

Seems my hunches are right, at stock the Core2Duos are standard at best... But when overclocking is used..... I'm in 2.7Ghz and it's now almost as fast as my old Athlon64 5600 @ 3.2Ghz at PCSX2. About a 20% difference.....

Gonna try the BSEL mod when I have the time. Or greed.

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[skoreanime]

Fudzilla

No surprise they can't seem to get rid of their stock. Oh well, gives them more time to fine tune them

[strike105x]

lol intel is such a greedy bastard, that's probably one of the reasons i like AMD, they dont behave like this, they just rebrand lets say the athlon CPU's that weren't sold modify the cache to 512 and voila cheap Semprons.

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[Dieseldahl]

I've had intel ONCE!... and i hated it... the only reason why intel is "better" now days is because they are expensive, cant compare amd and intel now days.. because amd is 1/3 the price, AMD 4 ever for me!

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[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by strike105x

lol intel is such a greedy bastard, that's probably one of the reasons i like AMD, they dont behave like this, they just rebrand lets say the athlon CPU's that weren't sold modify the cache to 512 and voila cheap Semprons.

Originally Posted by Dieseldahl

I've had intel ONCE!... and i hated it... the only reason why intel is "better" now days is because they are expensive, cant compare amd and intel now days.. because amd is 1/3 the price, AMD 4 ever for me!

Rhetoric like this drives me nuts. ALL companies will try to earn as much money as they think they can for their product. There is no exception. None of them are out to do you any favors, they're out to make money.

Also, AMD is not 1/3 the price. What nonsense. They are marginally cheaper. And they have to be. They have a vastly inferior product at the moment. When this was not the case, and they were beating the old P4 northwoods, prices were (surprise) very comparable. But now they're getting dominated in the desktop CPU market, hence the lower prices.

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[strike105x]

Originally Posted by Spyhop

Rhetoric like this drives me nuts. ALL companies will try to earn as much money as they think they can for their product. There is no exception. None of them are out to do you any favors, they're out to make money.

Also, AMD is not 1/3 the price. What nonsense. They are marginally cheaper. And they have to be. They have a vastly inferior product at the moment. When this was not the case, and they were beating the old P4 northwoods, prices were (surprise) very comparable. But now they're getting dominated in the desktop CPU market, hence the lower prices.

I was referring to Skore's post there and yes all are out there to make money but some do it by giving you what you paid for, others use slightly dirtier tactics like that case with rebranding and i don't know how things where in the USA back then but here even when AMD surpassed the P4 they where still cheaper (not to mention the Sempron), though i admit in a way you may be right they may be more honest (i mean AMD here) because Intel has the upper hand on the market and in performance.

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[gamefreak94]

I don't know what the hell is wrong with AMD, it might be their policies or someone else's fault, but AMD processors (and ATI cards) are super-expensive here.

Like an HD4770 is going for a whopping $160! A measly 65nm Athlon X2 5600+ is going for $110.

On the other hand, a GTS-250 costs a tad less, and an E7400 costs just a few bucks more then the Athlon.

Take your pick: 4770 + Athlon 5600, or GTS-250 + E7400.

The latter combo pwns the former in just about every way. Hence why everyone here has an Intel + Nvidia combination....and it's gonna stay that way unless they bring down the ridiculously high prices.

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[LoneWolf]

wierd you get a 4770 for 130$-140$. and a phenom II x2 is 105$. the athlon x2 5600+ should be a tad less the 60$.

[strike105x]

Here they don't sell 5600+ anymore but an Athlon II X2 245 is 90$. As for 4770 its around 123$ (for around 133$ you can get a 4850). Gotta say GF something is f**** up with either the AMD department for your country or something is causing this internally.

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[nanaya]

Originally Posted by gamefreak94

I don't know what the hell is wrong with AMD, it might be their policies or someone else's fault, but AMD processors (and ATI cards) are super-expensive here.

Like an HD4770 is going for a whopping $160! A measly 65nm Athlon X2 5600+ is going for $110.

On the other hand, a GTS-250 costs a tad less, and an E7400 costs just a few bucks more then the Athlon.

Take your pick: 4770 + Athlon 5600, or GTS-250 + E7400.

The latter combo pwns the former in just about every way. Hence why everyone here has an Intel + ATI combination....and it's gonna stay that way unless they bring down the ridiculously high prices.

eh , they don't pick the cheapest combination (Intel+Nvidia) ?

I have a question here, since Core i architecture is a monolithic design, can't they make a tri-core series like AMD?
what'd they do with the slightly defected core?
and what a mess core i series naming is, there's even a socket 1156 core i7 iirc

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

That's the i5...and don't forget the upcoming i3

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[gamefreak94]

Here aside, Intel's gonna pay the price for all this socket non-sense. I mean on one hand you have AMD whose AM3 mobos are backwards compatible with AM2+ and AM2 (obviously all 3 are physically the same), meaning that basically every AMD CPU from the Athlon64 to the Phenom II can be run on one mobo.

And on the other hand you have Intel, i7 needs a socket 1136, i5 needs a 1156 and god knows what i3's gonna need. On top of that the old Core 2 series (which is still going strong AFAIK) is using the 775 socket. 4 line-up of processors, each needing a different mobo. What the f*** are you thinking Intel??

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

wierd you get a 4770 for 130$-140$. and a phenom II x2 is 105$. the athlon x2 5600+ should be a tad less the 60$.

Actually, you can get an HD4850 for under $100 on Newegg after rebate, and there's an AthlonX2 6000+ going for $65

Originally Posted by strike105x

Here they don't sell 5600+ anymore but an Athlon II X2 245 is 90$. As for 4770 its around 123$ (for around 133$ you can get a 4850). Gotta say GF something is f**** up with either the AMD department for your country or something is causing this internally.

Originally Posted by nanaya

eh , they don't pick the cheapest combination (Intel+Nvidia) ?

Oh sorry lol, typo.

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[drhycodan]

its simple, socket 1366 is for the extreme/enthusiast which is only available with the x58 chipset, while socket 1156 is for performance/mainstream on the P55 chipset. Intel is phasing out the current i7 920 for the upcoming i5 series so that leaves only the extreme high end on 1366.

[mathewhayden]

Hello..
Actually I am confused between AMD and Itel. Both are good at its place and working good without complain but for me Intel is very good. I also have Intel in my system and it is working efficiently. I am very much satisfied with this. Thank you very much friends for your different opinions.

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