AMD vs Intel (2008) - Page 19

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 24th, 2009

means nothing if it does not stop the processor from burning out...

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LoneWolf · March 24th, 2009

yeah core i7 is for rich people not for us

you have to buy so much else for it

Gameman · March 24th, 2009

Do you seriously think heat is going to dissuade customers from an intelligent purchase??????

If they settle and go for Deneb then they take all the risks that go with it.....

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LoneWolf · March 24th, 2009

well a aftermarket heatsink with fan for cpu is good enough for normal use like games, surfing the net , doing normal stuff

Gameman · March 24th, 2009

games are hardly a "requirement" when considering a pc though.....it's more of a luxury.... Neither is a graphics card that "goes to the Moon and back"......

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LoneWolf · March 24th, 2009

are you crazy ? games are a normal use

BigIg · March 24th, 2009

It depends on who's buying the pc.

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skoreanime · March 24th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gameman

Do you seriously think heat is going to dissuade customers from an intelligent purchase??????

If they settle and go for Deneb then they take all the risks that go with it.....

How is buying a CPU that produces a massive amount of heat and costs an arm and a leg an intelligent purchase? The more intelligent purchase would be buying a model that fits your needs.

You just want the best. Even though someone like you obviously doesn't need it.

Gameman · March 24th, 2009

Said the owner of a Quad and GX2......

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skoreanime · March 24th, 2009

I bought it so I wouldn't have to stick 2 different GPU boards into 2 separate PCI-E slots. When I bought the GX2, I was using a motherboard with only 1 PCI-E slot. There was no need for me to replace the motherboard too. And of course I did want to future proof myself for at least a couple years, so a dual GPU solution was best for me.

So yes, it was an intelligent purchase. Because I actually use the GPU to its extreme. Especially with my monitor.

No average person needs Intel top i7 core. No one.

Gameman · March 24th, 2009

That's all I wanted to do...If it had been reasonable I would have put the QX9770 in here instead...but it was 2000.00 and still is 2000.00

Just looking to futureproof too....

:

I know the i7 975 isn't necessary...

Or 920 I think it was.....

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Last edited by Gameman; March 24th, 2009 at 21:53..

LoneWolf · March 24th, 2009

core i7 is for rich not for average guys like most of us

and its not all that good

Last edited by LoneWolf; March 24th, 2009 at 22:03.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 24th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gameman

That's all I wanted to do...If it had been reasonable I would have put the QX9770 in here instead...but it was 2000.00 and still is 2000.00

Just looking to futureproof too....

:

I know the i7 975 isn't necessary...

Or 920 I think it was.....

PCSX2 will never require more CPU power than it currently uses and according to refraction quad (or more cores) support is never planned and would be just about impossible to implement due to PS2 emulation not really being able to split anymore than it currently is (In other words quad support might be doable, but the improvement would be like 1% as PCSX2 is already split as efficiently as is possible without being stupid about it.

And as for "next-gen emulation"...nothing currently out has a hope of running anything decently....

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skoreanime · March 24th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gameman

That's all I wanted to do...If it had been reasonable I would have put the QX9770 in here instead...but it was 2000.00 and still is 2000.00

Just looking to futureproof too....

:

I know the i7 975 isn't necessary...

Or 920 I think it was.....

But why the QX9770? There's no point.

Settle for a Q9550, overclock it to beyond the QX9770 stock performance and save a butt load of money.

All you want is the best money can buy, just for gloating and showing people that you have it. You have no need for something like a QX9770. No one really does. The only people I know who have them are ones with too much money or they actually use it for something useful...like their jobs.

Phil · March 25th, 2009

The QX9770 requires water cooling btw

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tuanming · March 25th, 2009

At stock clock speed? -.- It's all depend on how much you want to overclock it and beside, if you have one of the top air coolers then water isn't really necessary.

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Gameman · March 25th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by skoreanime

Settle for a Q9550, overclock it to beyond the QX9770 stock performance and save a butt load of money.

All you want is the best money can buy, just for gloating and showing people that you have it. You have no need for something like a QX9770. No one really does. The only people I know who have them are ones with too much money or they actually use it for something useful...like their jobs.

You got a point about the overclocking beyond the stock, but I wanted something that has the smae speed as I got now, only the 2 extra bonus cores...since Quad seems to be such a big thing nowadays...

It ain't realy for gloating, but more like "you're in this life once, so if this is your only chance , may as go for the brass ring"

If I had a chance to redo this rig again, I'd probably go for the QX9650 and a lesser motherboard...

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skoreanime · March 25th, 2009

Quad really isn't needed. Especially if you already have a dual chip in the 4Ghz range. Not many things take advantage of quad cores. And I highly doubt you use something that does

LoneWolf · March 25th, 2009

quad is for multitasking not for guys who want to save bucks

Fadingz · March 25th, 2009

Just a heads up on processors.

The smaller the gate size from now on, the more expensive it will become.

32nm is on the verge of cheap fabrication by the way.

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March 24th, 2009	#371 (permalink)
Gameman Professional OC'er Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	That's all I wanted to do...If it had been reasonable I would have put the QX9770 in here instead...but it was 2000.00 and still is 2000.00 Just looking to futureproof too....: I know the i7 975 isn't necessary... Or 920 I think it was..... __________________ I am the man that rules the world!!!!!!!!! - Sid Vicious E8600 Core 2 Duo Wolfdale 3.33GHZ @ 4.22 SUPER-Hertz!!!!!! Rampage Formula X48 R.O.G. Motherboard 2 GB Dominator Ram 1066 5-5-5-15 (2T) @ 1066 Mhz Stock Nvidia GTS 250 OC/9800GTX+OC 512 GDDR3 @ 813 MHZ ++OC 2nd Build E2160 Pentium Dual Core CPU @ 1.8 GHZ @ 3.40 SUPER-Hertz!!!! 2 GB Dominator 1066 @ 800 5-5-5-18 2T 1:1 DFI LanParty X48 T2RSB Plus Motherboard Radeon 3650 512 GDDR2 @ 860/550 MHZ OC Last edited by Gameman; March 24th, 2009 at 21:53..

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March 24th, 2009	#361 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,338	means nothing if it does not stop the processor from burning out... __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 24th, 2009	#362 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	yeah core i7 is for rich people not for us you have to buy so much else for it

March 24th, 2009	#363 (permalink)
Gameman Professional OC'er Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	Do you seriously think heat is going to dissuade customers from an intelligent purchase?????? If they settle and go for Deneb then they take all the risks that go with it..... __________________ I am the man that rules the world!!!!!!!!! - Sid Vicious E8600 Core 2 Duo Wolfdale 3.33GHZ @ 4.22 SUPER-Hertz!!!!!! Rampage Formula X48 R.O.G. Motherboard 2 GB Dominator Ram 1066 5-5-5-15 (2T) @ 1066 Mhz Stock Nvidia GTS 250 OC/9800GTX+OC 512 GDDR3 @ 813 MHZ ++OC 2nd Build E2160 Pentium Dual Core CPU @ 1.8 GHZ @ 3.40 SUPER-Hertz!!!! 2 GB Dominator 1066 @ 800 5-5-5-18 2T 1:1 DFI LanParty X48 T2RSB Plus Motherboard Radeon 3650 512 GDDR2 @ 860/550 MHZ OC

March 24th, 2009	#364 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	well a aftermarket heatsink with fan for cpu is good enough for normal use like games, surfing the net , doing normal stuff

March 24th, 2009	#365 (permalink)
Gameman Professional OC'er Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	games are hardly a "requirement" when considering a pc though.....it's more of a luxury.... Neither is a graphics card that "goes to the Moon and back"...... __________________ I am the man that rules the world!!!!!!!!! - Sid Vicious E8600 Core 2 Duo Wolfdale 3.33GHZ @ 4.22 SUPER-Hertz!!!!!! Rampage Formula X48 R.O.G. Motherboard 2 GB Dominator Ram 1066 5-5-5-15 (2T) @ 1066 Mhz Stock Nvidia GTS 250 OC/9800GTX+OC 512 GDDR3 @ 813 MHZ ++OC 2nd Build E2160 Pentium Dual Core CPU @ 1.8 GHZ @ 3.40 SUPER-Hertz!!!! 2 GB Dominator 1066 @ 800 5-5-5-18 2T 1:1 DFI LanParty X48 T2RSB Plus Motherboard Radeon 3650 512 GDDR2 @ 860/550 MHZ OC

March 24th, 2009	#366 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	are you crazy ? games are a normal use

March 24th, 2009	#367 (permalink)
BigIg I tell you what. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 2,273	It depends on who's buying the pc. __________________ Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand

March 24th, 2009	#369 (permalink)
Gameman Professional OC'er Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	Said the owner of a Quad and GX2...... __________________ I am the man that rules the world!!!!!!!!! - Sid Vicious E8600 Core 2 Duo Wolfdale 3.33GHZ @ 4.22 SUPER-Hertz!!!!!! Rampage Formula X48 R.O.G. Motherboard 2 GB Dominator Ram 1066 5-5-5-15 (2T) @ 1066 Mhz Stock Nvidia GTS 250 OC/9800GTX+OC 512 GDDR3 @ 813 MHZ ++OC 2nd Build E2160 Pentium Dual Core CPU @ 1.8 GHZ @ 3.40 SUPER-Hertz!!!! 2 GB Dominator 1066 @ 800 5-5-5-18 2T 1:1 DFI LanParty X48 T2RSB Plus Motherboard Radeon 3650 512 GDDR2 @ 860/550 MHZ OC

March 24th, 2009	#370 (permalink)
skoreanime Your resident reaper... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 6,031	I bought it so I wouldn't have to stick 2 different GPU boards into 2 separate PCI-E slots. When I bought the GX2, I was using a motherboard with only 1 PCI-E slot. There was no need for me to replace the motherboard too. And of course I did want to future proof myself for at least a couple years, so a dual GPU solution was best for me. So yes, it was an intelligent purchase. Because I actually use the GPU to its extreme. Especially with my monitor. No average person needs Intel top i7 core. No one.

March 24th, 2009	#372 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	core i7 is for rich not for average guys like most of us and its not all that good Last edited by LoneWolf; March 24th, 2009 at 22:03.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

March 25th, 2009	#375 (permalink)
Phil Regular User ;) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 9,969	The QX9770 requires water cooling btw __________________ A Mac is like an escort, you pay a ton and get nothing. A PC is like a hooker, it's a lot cheaper and gives you what you're after.. and if unlucky some diseases as well, that's why you gotta use protection. -CC

March 25th, 2009	#376 (permalink)
tuanming Final Fantasy XXX Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA, TX Posts: 2,404	At stock clock speed? -.- It's all depend on how much you want to overclock it and beside, if you have one of the top air coolers then water isn't really necessary. __________________ Intel Core2Duo E6300 1.86Ghz L629A244 @ 3.78GHz Asus P5K-E Wifi/AP Rev.1.02g Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120+ FM121 (110 cfm fan) ATI x1900 GT Rev.2 256mb 513/657 G.Skill 2x1gb Hz--540MHz CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W

March 25th, 2009	#378 (permalink)
skoreanime Your resident reaper... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 6,031	Quad really isn't needed. Especially if you already have a dual chip in the 4Ghz range. Not many things take advantage of quad cores. And I highly doubt you use something that does

March 25th, 2009	#379 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	quad is for multitasking not for guys who want to save bucks