Haveing problems with epsxe 1.60

Blackguard · June 16th, 2004

I just upgraded my video card to a radeon 9800 pro. When I go to run the emulator I get a epsxe.exe has generated a error. All I can do after this is close the program.

My system specs are
Epox 8k3ae
athlon 2400+
radeon 9800 pro
512 corsair ram

If you need more information tell me what I need.

**Betamax** · June 16th, 2004

Hmmm k.

What are your plugins?

Blackguard · June 16th, 2004

LOL ::slaps head:: Ok I'm using petes opengl2, SPU lite, and regular cdrom plugin. The setting that petes are using is the same settings when I had my Geforce 4 ti 4200 in and they worked before I moved to a radeon.

Umm, I can't post the config for the plugins because I'm at work. so later on I can.

**Betamax** · June 17th, 2004

Well I haven't got a radeon so I can't be sure, but I've got a gut feeling it may be due to an incorrect setting in OGL2 plugin. Did you uncheck the gf4 workaround option?

Failing that as a test I'd try using peops to see if it still crashes or not. If not them it's definately a ogl2 issue. Change the setting to the fast default and work from there to find the offending item.

seph29 · June 17th, 2004

Also make sure that Internal X Resolution is only set to "High" since Radeon cards will crash if set to "Very High". I don't know if a GF4 Ti 4200 could handle Very High either, but that's the only option I can think of that would cause a crash on an ATI card but not an Nvidia card(the GF4 Fix doesn't seem to cause my Radeon to crash).

Failing all of the above suggestions, it could be a driver issue. Try uninstalling all drivers(Nvidia and ATI) and then use Driver Cleaner2 to clean up the remnants. Then try reinstalling your ATI drivers.

Hope you find the problem.

Blackguard · June 17th, 2004

Thanks seph29 Love you man

that worked. Changed it to high and dam it worked LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Time to game.

**n_w95482** · June 17th, 2004

The geForce Ti 4200 should be able to handle very high X and Y. I think the reason why ATi cards can't handle the very high X value is because they don't support 4096x4096 textures, which GF4 Ti/GF FX cards can. ATi cards can be set to very high Y however, but last time I tried that (with high X), it didn't look very good.

seph29 · June 17th, 2004

Glad it worked!

I only meant because of the performance hit it creates which might slow the game to unplayable levels, not that the GF4 Ti 4200 wouldn't be able to use them because of a technical incapability like ATI cards.

In my own experience setting it to Very High Y creates a large impact on the overall quality of the game on my R9600. On my other GFFX card I've done tests with Very High X and Very High Y and I've noticed a large increase in quality after turning on Very High Y but hardly any increase at all after turning on Very High X with that(in other words, having one of them on seems to make a large impact, but both of them at the same time doesn't seem to be better than one of them at a time). Strange that it's different for you..

Blackguard · June 17th, 2004

I don't know, that is weird if you think so. But i have all my setting on high but Y so i can't complain

the only thing I need to do is find a good shader that isn't blurry.

**n_w95482** · June 17th, 2004

I took 2 comparison pictures of Gran Turismo 2 with high Y and very high Y. It actually looked a tiny bit better with very high Y (I could have sworn it looked different last time, been a while though). I think I'll leave Y at very high for the time being.

Picture 1: Very high Y.
Picture 2: High Y.
The only difference I can see between the two in those pictures is that with very high Y there are slightly less jaggies on the edge of the car hood (up against the windshield) and the blue and white checkerboard thingy looks better in the distance.

Blackguard · June 17th, 2004

i see what are talking about. It do look alittle less jagged in picture one. I also see around the headlights the 1 picture looks alot better.very nice picture comparsion. I would post some pics but i don't have software to resize them.

**I-Chan** · June 17th, 2004

One little question: why are you sing the lite plugin for sound? (i'm assuming eternal). Your pc is more than able to handle eternal 1.41, and it will sound much nicer.

Blackguard · June 18th, 2004

well, I don't know why

i will change over when i have time.

June 16th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Blackguard you can't see like i can. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 43	Haveing problems with epsxe 1.60 I just upgraded my video card to a radeon 9800 pro. When I go to run the emulator I get a epsxe.exe has generated a error. All I can do after this is close the program. My system specs are Epox 8k3ae athlon 2400+ radeon 9800 pro 512 corsair ram If you need more information tell me what I need. __________________

June 16th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	Hmmm k. What are your plugins? __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

June 16th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Blackguard you can't see like i can. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 43	LOL ::slaps head:: Ok I'm using petes opengl2, SPU lite, and regular cdrom plugin. The setting that petes are using is the same settings when I had my Geforce 4 ti 4200 in and they worked before I moved to a radeon. Umm, I can't post the config for the plugins because I'm at work. so later on I can. __________________ Last edited by Blackguard; June 16th, 2004 at 22:25. Reason: adding something else.

June 17th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	Well I haven't got a radeon so I can't be sure, but I've got a gut feeling it may be due to an incorrect setting in OGL2 plugin. Did you uncheck the gf4 workaround option? Failing that as a test I'd try using peops to see if it still crashes or not. If not them it's definately a ogl2 issue. Change the setting to the fast default and work from there to find the offending item. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

June 17th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Blackguard you can't see like i can. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 43	Thanks seph29 Love you man that worked. Changed it to high and dam it worked LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Time to game. __________________

June 17th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
seph29 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 90	Also make sure that Internal X Resolution is only set to "High" since Radeon cards will crash if set to "Very High". I don't know if a GF4 Ti 4200 could handle Very High either, but that's the only option I can think of that would cause a crash on an ATI card but not an Nvidia card(the GF4 Fix doesn't seem to cause my Radeon to crash). Failing all of the above suggestions, it could be a driver issue. Try uninstalling all drivers(Nvidia and ATI) and then use Driver Cleaner2 to clean up the remnants. Then try reinstalling your ATI drivers. Hope you find the problem.

June 17th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	The geForce Ti 4200 should be able to handle very high X and Y. I think the reason why ATi cards can't handle the very high X value is because they don't support 4096x4096 textures, which GF4 Ti/GF FX cards can. ATi cards can be set to very high Y however, but last time I tried that (with high X), it didn't look very good. __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro Last edited by n_w95482; June 17th, 2004 at 04:27.

June 17th, 2004	#8 (permalink)
seph29 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 90	Glad it worked! I only meant because of the performance hit it creates which might slow the game to unplayable levels, not that the GF4 Ti 4200 wouldn't be able to use them because of a technical incapability like ATI cards. In my own experience setting it to Very High Y creates a large impact on the overall quality of the game on my R9600. On my other GFFX card I've done tests with Very High X and Very High Y and I've noticed a large increase in quality after turning on Very High Y but hardly any increase at all after turning on Very High X with that(in other words, having one of them on seems to make a large impact, but both of them at the same time doesn't seem to be better than one of them at a time). Strange that it's different for you..

June 17th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
Blackguard you can't see like i can. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 43	I don't know, that is weird if you think so. But i have all my setting on high but Y so i can't complain the only thing I need to do is find a good shader that isn't blurry. __________________

June 17th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Blackguard you can't see like i can. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 43	i see what are talking about. It do look alittle less jagged in picture one. I also see around the headlights the 1 picture looks alot better.very nice picture comparsion. I would post some pics but i don't have software to resize them. __________________

June 17th, 2004	#12 (permalink)
I-Chan Ex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 3,085	One little question: why are you sing the lite plugin for sound? (i'm assuming eternal). Your pc is more than able to handle eternal 1.41, and it will sound much nicer. __________________ "I'm living in a dream I can't wake from" Core 2 Duo 6600 FSB 1066 \| 2048 MB DDR2 PC2 6400 800 MHZ \| NVIDIA 8800 GTS \| Sound Blaster Audigy 4 \| Seagate Barracuda 250GB SATAII+WD Caviar 250GB \| Dell 3007WFP-HC 30" Widescreen

June 18th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Blackguard you can't see like i can. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 43	well, I don't know why i will change over when i have time. __________________

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