graphics and sound sux...

blood-nut · January 13th, 2003

im newbie here.

my ePSXe shows the games in a realy ugly display. for instance crash 3 or chrono cross show the characters with lots of NOTICABLE cubes, when i saw some s-shots and the graphics showd be more sharp.
about sound, it 'ticks' or 'cuts' while it plays the music (or speach)
in movies all sounds just getting stuck in a single anoying note...

what to do?
im using peops soft drive 1.11 for gpx and eternal SPU plug 1.30 for snd.

**Demigod** · January 13th, 2003

If you have a good 3D accelerator card then try using Pete's D3D or OpenGL plug-in. The one you're using is a software driver so you'll get clunky, ugly graphics with it.

Allnatural · January 13th, 2003

First, use a hardware-accelerated GPU plugin, like Pete's OGL. The graphics will look much better, but you may sacrifice some accuracy in certain special effects. Whether you're bothered by that is a matter of preference.

As for the sound, I would start by increasing the buffer size.

Of course, I make these recommendations having no idea what kind of hardware you're working with.

blood-nut · January 13th, 2003

ok iv got an onboard motherB. iv got a really unknown snd card. device manager calls it "C-media". well i guess the important thing is that its emulated.
my gpx is nVIDIA TNT2.
i tried pete's D3D but it refresh rate drops drastically!

**Kellicros** · January 13th, 2003

Refresh rate? or you meant fps?
Well, try Pete's opengl plugin, it is the best for nvidia cards.

winter_mute · January 13th, 2003

>> i tried pete's D3D but it refresh rate drops drastically!
Go for OpenGL Plugin > it`s better 4 nVidia cards like your TNT2

>> it 'ticks' or 'cuts' while it plays the music (or speach)
try 2 fings:
1) use other plugin - ePSXeCore or Eternal Lite
2) incrase sound buffor value

blood-nut · January 14th, 2003

well...
i did all u sayd yesterday.
resaults:
all testings with openGL plug-in were a failiure. no matter what i did the game ran so slow i could to the kitchen, get a drink and return while the 'sony copyright' are up

((((((((
so im back to peops doft drive 1.11. and here's the thing:
if the sound is off, the game runs even faster than normal (personall i like it) but the graphics didnt change (duhh...) here's a S-Shot from crash 3: http://bloodnut.topcities.com/001.jpg i dunno why the pic got screwed up in the bottom but dont mind it. look at the pic zommed cos that's how i see it in the emu (stretching). looks preety ugly in chrono cross too...

what to do?
if the sound is on (i changed the buffer to the right amount and its working GREAT) the game gets slowed. what to do? (i dont use a big buffer. its about 70 - most optimal for me)

**Kane** · January 14th, 2003

Have you got the appopriate driverset installed? How fast is your CPU?

Cyberman · January 14th, 2003

As Kane Said.. you need to give some specs for your system and more importantly how it's set up. If you are using Peops GPU for example click the copy settings to clipboard and paste into your post what it gives you. A lot of things can affect the speed. CPU is one of them. The TNT should be fine but if you are running it on a 200mhz P2 then.. ummm don't expect so much

The reason the screen seems screwed up is it's not, (ehhh?). that is a debug view of the VRAM You are seeing all the pallete textures etc. with the entire contents of the VRAM nifty huh?

Sound eats up a LOT of CPU.. that's a clue you have an underpowered PC for the job. Let's see how you have it set up to see if it's possible to get some extra power. All the voices etc will sound choppy though because the CPU is probably overloaded. Such is life!

Cyb

siniqal · January 14th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by blood-nut
well...
i did all u sayd yesterday.
resaults:
all testings with openGL plug-in were a failiure. no matter what i did the game ran so slow i could to the kitchen, get a drink and return while the 'sony copyright' are up ((((((((

It would help to know what processor type and speed your computer is. The Operating System would be nice, too.

A TNT2 video card should not be rendering OpenGL so poorly unless you aren't using proper drivers. You should at least update your video drivers - http://www.nvidia.com - as well as motherboard drivers. (if you know the Model and Manufacturer of the board)

If your computer is a brand name computer such as Dell, Compaq, or Gateway, you should visit their website to check for new driver releases.

Esturk · January 14th, 2003

Running your ePSXe at 320x240 will also create horrible "big cubes". Just make sure to use a res of 640x480 or higher. Hope this tidbit helps.

Phoenix Flame · January 14th, 2003

Just to clarify, D3D is better for the TNT2. OGL is recommended only for the GeForce series. The TNT2 actually has better performance in D3D than it does with OpenGL - this is with everything, not just ePSXe.

As for your problem, it sounds like you simply don't have enough CPU power to run the emu properly. I'd suggest that you switch to the Internal ePSXe SPU since it runs much faster than Eternal.

blood-nut · January 15th, 2003

ok video plug settings:
Plugin: P.E.Op.S. Soft Driver 1.1.11
Author: Pete Bernert and the P.E.Op.S. team

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Fullscreen - [32 Bit]

Framerate:
- FPS limit: off
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Misc:
- Scanlines: disabled
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

iv got celeron 850hrz 390SDRAM (32MB redirected to the vid card since its onboard).....

u think my CPU is to low?

Phoenix Flame · January 15th, 2003

Hmm, it's not THAT low, but something's definitely sucking up CPU cycles if you're getting problems like that. See what happens if you change to 16 bit colour.

blood-nut · January 15th, 2003

same effect as before

cosmopeacock · January 16th, 2003

Try switching on the "use system memory" checkbox, if present (at least it's there in P.e.Op.S. 1.12). It worked very good with my poorly equipped laptop, where the video card's VRAM seems to be

soooooooooooo
oooooo
oo

slow.

blood-nut · January 16th, 2003

it only made it worse....

btw crash 3 plays preety cool with D3D but chrono cross really sux. i can walk and stuff but when i encounter it getts stuck (the menu is crappy too)

WindHydra · January 16th, 2003

GeForce2 MX works fine for Chrono Cross (since it can still run at 20 something FPS on PII 350mhz with 128mb sdram). Just don't turn on any filter, disable screen smoothing, and choose the fastest settings for frame buffer access and off-screen drawing. (using pete's openGL, 640x480)
P.E.Op.S. Soft Driver can run slower under certain settings...

winter_mute · January 17th, 2003

Seems liker some kind of problem with hardware < it`s verry posible if U have GPU integred on your mainboard

chack if Updating mainboard&Gfx Card Drivers can change something?? Otherwise stay with SoftPlugin or buy new GFXCard

**Shadow Lady** · January 19th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by blood-nut
it only made it worse....

btw crash 3 plays preety cool with D3D but chrono cross really sux. i can walk and stuff but when i encounter it getts stuck (the menu is crappy too)

ehrm... Im not sure but disabling 2xSAI and filtering modes helps in the CC menus (u should try changing them for a better look BTW)

January 13th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
blood-nut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6	graphics and sound sux... im newbie here. my ePSXe shows the games in a realy ugly display. for instance crash 3 or chrono cross show the characters with lots of NOTICABLE cubes, when i saw some s-shots and the graphics showd be more sharp. about sound, it 'ticks' or 'cuts' while it plays the music (or speach) in movies all sounds just getting stuck in a single anoying note... what to do? im using peops soft drive 1.11 for gpx and eternal SPU plug 1.30 for snd.

January 13th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	If you have a good 3D accelerator card then try using Pete's D3D or OpenGL plug-in. The one you're using is a software driver so you'll get clunky, ugly graphics with it. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

January 13th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Allnatural No preservatives™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toledo, OH. USA Posts: 965	First, use a hardware-accelerated GPU plugin, like Pete's OGL. The graphics will look much better, but you may sacrifice some accuracy in certain special effects. Whether you're bothered by that is a matter of preference. As for the sound, I would start by increasing the buffer size. Of course, I make these recommendations having no idea what kind of hardware you're working with. __________________ Videogame Gifs

January 13th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,686	Refresh rate? or you meant fps? Well, try Pete's opengl plugin, it is the best for nvidia cards. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

January 13th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
winter_mute That Guy from Darkness Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: in Darkness Posts: 873	>> i tried pete's D3D but it refresh rate drops drastically! Go for OpenGL Plugin > it`s better 4 nVidia cards like your TNT2 >> it 'ticks' or 'cuts' while it plays the music (or speach) try 2 fings: 1) use other plugin - ePSXeCore or Eternal Lite 2) incrase sound buffor value __________________ => PSEmu.pl <= PlayStation Emulation

January 13th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
blood-nut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6	ok iv got an onboard motherB. iv got a really unknown snd card. device manager calls it "C-media". well i guess the important thing is that its emulated. my gpx is nVIDIA TNT2. i tried pete's D3D but it refresh rate drops drastically!

January 14th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
blood-nut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6	well... i did all u sayd yesterday. resaults: all testings with openGL plug-in were a failiure. no matter what i did the game ran so slow i could to the kitchen, get a drink and return while the 'sony copyright' are up (((((((( so im back to peops doft drive 1.11. and here's the thing: if the sound is off, the game runs even faster than normal (personall i like it) but the graphics didnt change (duhh...) here's a S-Shot from crash 3: http://bloodnut.topcities.com/001.jpg i dunno why the pic got screwed up in the bottom but dont mind it. look at the pic zommed cos that's how i see it in the emu (stretching). looks preety ugly in chrono cross too... what to do? if the sound is on (i changed the buffer to the right amount and its working GREAT) the game gets slowed. what to do? (i dont use a big buffer. its about 70 - most optimal for me)

January 14th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Have you got the appopriate driverset installed? How fast is your CPU? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

January 14th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Cyberman I code therefore I am. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: I live therefore it's enough. Posts: 412	As Kane Said.. you need to give some specs for your system and more importantly how it's set up. If you are using Peops GPU for example click the copy settings to clipboard and paste into your post what it gives you. A lot of things can affect the speed. CPU is one of them. The TNT should be fine but if you are running it on a 200mhz P2 then.. ummm don't expect so much The reason the screen seems screwed up is it's not, (ehhh?). that is a debug view of the VRAM You are seeing all the pallete textures etc. with the entire contents of the VRAM nifty huh? Sound eats up a LOT of CPU.. that's a clue you have an underpowered PC for the job. Let's see how you have it set up to see if it's possible to get some extra power. All the voices etc will sound choppy though because the CPU is probably overloaded. Such is life! Cyb __________________ Think GEEK! Cyb's page of FF7 and more viewing

January 14th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	Running your ePSXe at 320x240 will also create horrible "big cubes". Just make sure to use a res of 640x480 or higher. Hope this tidbit helps. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

January 14th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
Phoenix Flame Flood Yourself Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,342	Just to clarify, D3D is better for the TNT2. OGL is recommended only for the GeForce series. The TNT2 actually has better performance in D3D than it does with OpenGL - this is with everything, not just ePSXe. As for your problem, it sounds like you simply don't have enough CPU power to run the emu properly. I'd suggest that you switch to the Internal ePSXe SPU since it runs much faster than Eternal.

January 15th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
blood-nut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6	ok video plug settings: Plugin: P.E.Op.S. Soft Driver 1.1.11 Author: Pete Bernert and the P.E.Op.S. team Resolution/Color: - 640x480 Fullscreen - [32 Bit] Framerate: - FPS limit: off - Frame skipping: off - FPS limit: Auto Misc: - Scanlines: disabled - Game fixes: off [00000000] iv got celeron 850hrz 390SDRAM (32MB redirected to the vid card since its onboard)..... u think my CPU is to low?

January 15th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
Phoenix Flame Flood Yourself Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,342	Hmm, it's not THAT low, but something's definitely sucking up CPU cycles if you're getting problems like that. See what happens if you change to 16 bit colour.

January 15th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
blood-nut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6	same effect as before

January 16th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
cosmopeacock Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6	Try switching on the "use system memory" checkbox, if present (at least it's there in P.e.Op.S. 1.12). It worked very good with my poorly equipped laptop, where the video card's VRAM seems to be soooooooooooo oooooo oo slow.

January 16th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
blood-nut Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6	it only made it worse.... btw crash 3 plays preety cool with D3D but chrono cross really sux. i can walk and stuff but when i encounter it getts stuck (the menu is crappy too)

January 16th, 2003	#18 (permalink)
WindHydra Wind, Life, Eternity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: El Monte Posts: 1,331	GeForce2 MX works fine for Chrono Cross (since it can still run at 20 something FPS on PII 350mhz with 128mb sdram). Just don't turn on any filter, disable screen smoothing, and choose the fastest settings for frame buffer access and off-screen drawing. (using pete's openGL, 640x480) P.E.Op.S. Soft Driver can run slower under certain settings... __________________ My deviantArt :bounce: We ran like the wind, under the cerulean skies...

January 17th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
winter_mute That Guy from Darkness Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: in Darkness Posts: 873	Seems liker some kind of problem with hardware < it`s verry posible if U have GPU integred on your mainboard chack if Updating mainboard&Gfx Card Drivers can change something?? Otherwise stay with SoftPlugin or buy new GFXCard __________________ => PSEmu.pl <= PlayStation Emulation

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