epsxe slow despite high(ish) spec machine

fortunemunkey · January 12th, 2003

Help! I can't get epsxe to work acceptable fast at all!

My system specs are:

Athlon XP 2000 CPU
VIA KM266 Mobo
256Mb DDR Ram
Radeon 9000 Video
Win XP Pro
DirectX 9

I've tried a few plugins and config optiosn but I'm getting nowhere. I'd expect this spec machine to run too fast, not too slow!!!

Any ideas?

Cheers,

Munkey of Fortune

fortunemunkey · January 12th, 2003

Exact GPU settings - give me about 6-8fps. Curiously, on some screens (e.g. car selection in gran turisomo), I get about 200 fps.

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.68
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
GFX card: Radeon 9000 DDR x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE

Resolution/Color:
- 400x300 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [32 Bit]
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off

Textures:
- R8G8A8A8
- Filtering: 0
- Hi-Res textures: off
- Palettized tex windows: off
- Garbage collection: on
- VRam size: 0 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 4
- Framebuffer texture: 2
- Framebuffer access: 0
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: on
- Advanced blending: on

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: off
- Screen cushion: off
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

**Yeloazndevil** · January 12th, 2003

use Pete's D3D Plug-in and try changing the resolution

AtomicFeline · January 12th, 2003

Curious. Try messing around with the off-screen drawing. And if that doesn't work, tell us how the PEOPS software driver runs.

Also, try a good 640x480. I've never used such a low resolution such as yours.

fortunemunkey · January 12th, 2003

tried that too, virtuall the same affect.

**Yeloazndevil** · January 12th, 2003

do u have FSAA on?

AtomicFeline · January 12th, 2003

Post your PEOPs settings... It really should run fast.

fortunemunkey · January 12th, 2003

sorry, overlapped posts. I tried D3D already, not PEOPs.

Just tried PEOPs in 'Fast' settings, and it's worse!

FWIW, native windows games run really well, e.g. GTA3.

I am running the new ATI Catalyst 3 drivers, and direct X 9. I wonder if that has anything to do with it?

I also disabled sound, but it doesn't speed anything up, and resolution seems to make no odds.

fortunemunkey · January 12th, 2003

I have to go now, but please carry on suggestions - I'll try them out tomorrow.

Cheers,

.:FM:.

AtomicFeline · January 12th, 2003

Worse as in slow or worse as in picture quality? Are your drivers installed?

fortunemunkey · January 12th, 2003

slower. I do have drivers intalled (ATI Catalyst 3, see above).

Native D3D games kick a*s on the system. Dunno why epsxe is slow. Gotta be something quirky though.

Random thoughts - gamepad?

AtomicFeline · January 12th, 2003

Do all your PSX games behave the same in your computer?

fortunemunkey · January 12th, 2003

All I've got to try are Tomb Raider 2, and Gran Turismo. I borrowed them to see if I could get theis working, and if so I was going to go and buy all the old games I love.

I might try and get hold of some more.

I really am off this time, but please throw ideas at me!

Night night.

**Yeloazndevil** · January 12th, 2003

what plug-ins are u using?

**Kane** · January 12th, 2003

What sound and CD plugins you using?

fortunemunkey · January 13th, 2003

Tried using Petes Direct Sound, built-in sound and no sound.

I'm not using any other plugins. BIOS is (from memory) 7502? The PAL one anyway.

Takmadeus · January 13th, 2003

well... you are using a 32 bit depht.... that must be as 32 bit dephts in pete's plugins really slow down things....... try leaing the bit depht at 16 and then tell us the results

Gamer1 · January 13th, 2003

here's a tried and true answer.

"try making an iso of the game"

my games have huge slow downs during movies because my dvd rom drive can't get data that fast. o well. gotta love isos.

fortunemunkey · January 13th, 2003

I've already tried 16 bpp, and it doesn't really make any (significant) odds. Although I put up the settings above, I really have tried a lot of different settings, but none have made enough of a difference to be able to play.

AtomicFeline · January 13th, 2003

Have you tried turning off the sound? Try disabling it; sound really slows down emulation. Also, what CD plugins are you using? Sound plugins? What are the settings?

January 12th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	epsxe slow despite high(ish) spec machine Help! I can't get epsxe to work acceptable fast at all! My system specs are: Athlon XP 2000 CPU VIA KM266 Mobo 256Mb DDR Ram Radeon 9000 Video Win XP Pro DirectX 9 I've tried a few plugins and config optiosn but I'm getting nowhere. I'd expect this spec machine to run too fast, not too slow!!! Any ideas? Cheers, Munkey of Fortune

January 12th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
AtomicFeline Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 569	Curious. Try messing around with the off-screen drawing. And if that doesn't work, tell us how the PEOPS software driver runs. Also, try a good 640x480. I've never used such a low resolution such as yours. __________________ Feline Visit my deviantart page: http://atomicfeline.deviantart.com 1.4 Ghz T-Bird Athlon PNY Geforce4 TI4400 AGP 128 Meg DDR 512 Megs DDR ram Ensoniq Audio PCI 32X CD-ROM Windows XP SP 1

January 12th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
AtomicFeline Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 569	Post your PEOPs settings... It really should run fast. __________________ Feline Visit my deviantart page: http://atomicfeline.deviantart.com 1.4 Ghz T-Bird Athlon PNY Geforce4 TI4400 AGP 128 Meg DDR 512 Megs DDR ram Ensoniq Audio PCI 32X CD-ROM Windows XP SP 1

January 12th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
AtomicFeline Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 569	Worse as in slow or worse as in picture quality? Are your drivers installed? __________________ Feline Visit my deviantart page: http://atomicfeline.deviantart.com 1.4 Ghz T-Bird Athlon PNY Geforce4 TI4400 AGP 128 Meg DDR 512 Megs DDR ram Ensoniq Audio PCI 32X CD-ROM Windows XP SP 1

January 12th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
AtomicFeline Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 569	Do all your PSX games behave the same in your computer? __________________ Feline Visit my deviantart page: http://atomicfeline.deviantart.com 1.4 Ghz T-Bird Athlon PNY Geforce4 TI4400 AGP 128 Meg DDR 512 Megs DDR ram Ensoniq Audio PCI 32X CD-ROM Windows XP SP 1

January 12th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	Exact GPU settings - give me about 6-8fps. Curiously, on some screens (e.g. car selection in gran turisomo), I get about 200 fps. Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.68 Author: Pete Bernert Card vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. GFX card: Radeon 9000 DDR x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE Resolution/Color: - 400x300 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [32 Bit] - Keep psx aspect ratio: off Textures: - R8G8A8A8 - Filtering: 0 - Hi-Res textures: off - Palettized tex windows: off - Garbage collection: on - VRam size: 0 MBytes Framerate: - FPS limitation: on - Frame skipping: off - FPS limit: Auto Compatibility: - Offscreen drawing: 4 - Framebuffer texture: 2 - Framebuffer access: 0 - Alpha multipass: on - Mask bit: on - Advanced blending: on Misc: - Scanlines: off - Line mode: off - Unfiltered FB: off - Dithering: off - Screen smoothing: off - Screen cushion: off - Game fixes: off [00000000]

January 12th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil :3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,147	use Pete's D3D Plug-in and try changing the resolution

January 12th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	tried that too, virtuall the same affect.

January 12th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil :3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,147	do u have FSAA on?

January 12th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	sorry, overlapped posts. I tried D3D already, not PEOPs. Just tried PEOPs in 'Fast' settings, and it's worse! FWIW, native windows games run really well, e.g. GTA3. I am running the new ATI Catalyst 3 drivers, and direct X 9. I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I also disabled sound, but it doesn't speed anything up, and resolution seems to make no odds.

January 12th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	I have to go now, but please carry on suggestions - I'll try them out tomorrow. Cheers, .:FM:.

January 12th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	slower. I do have drivers intalled (ATI Catalyst 3, see above). Native D3D games kick a*s on the system. Dunno why epsxe is slow. Gotta be something quirky though. Random thoughts - gamepad?

January 12th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	All I've got to try are Tomb Raider 2, and Gran Turismo. I borrowed them to see if I could get theis working, and if so I was going to go and buy all the old games I love. I might try and get hold of some more. I really am off this time, but please throw ideas at me! Night night.

January 12th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil :3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,147	what plug-ins are u using?

January 12th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	What sound and CD plugins you using? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

January 13th, 2003	#18 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	here's a tried and true answer. "try making an iso of the game" my games have huge slow downs during movies because my dvd rom drive can't get data that fast. o well. gotta love isos. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

January 13th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	Tried using Petes Direct Sound, built-in sound and no sound. I'm not using any other plugins. BIOS is (from memory) 7502? The PAL one anyway.

January 13th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
Takmadeus The Legendary Journey Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In real life Posts: 4,040	well... you are using a 32 bit depht.... that must be as 32 bit dephts in pete's plugins really slow down things....... try leaing the bit depht at 16 and then tell us the results __________________ Made with the GIMP

January 13th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
fortunemunkey Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 10	I've already tried 16 bpp, and it doesn't really make any (significant) odds. Although I put up the settings above, I really have tried a lot of different settings, but none have made enough of a difference to be able to play.

January 13th, 2003	#20 (permalink)
AtomicFeline Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 569	Have you tried turning off the sound? Try disabling it; sound really slows down emulation. Also, what CD plugins are you using? Sound plugins? What are the settings? __________________ Feline Visit my deviantart page: http://atomicfeline.deviantart.com 1.4 Ghz T-Bird Athlon PNY Geforce4 TI4400 AGP 128 Meg DDR 512 Megs DDR ram Ensoniq Audio PCI 32X CD-ROM Windows XP SP 1

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