Savestates as demos

**Prafull** · July 1st, 2002

For some games savestates can work even better than demos.

e.g. Ridge Racer--- you can play the whole game.(as with other old games).
Gt2 and other racing games--- you can have hours of game play (one full race).
Most level based games--- you can play one full level.
Most sports game--- you can play one full match.

I think thats much more than what we can expect considering that size of these savestates is only around 1.4 mb

*edit* This portion of the thread has been moved from a previous thread so dont ask questions.

Fr0g · July 1st, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Bgnome
you can, however, use an epsxe savestate as a sort of demo..there used to be some sort of group around here that shared them..

really? cool it would be nice to get some savestates to test games i dont have here

**cooliscool** · July 1st, 2002

that sounds awesome, ive seen warez versions of RR on the net that are only a meg.. are those savestates? also, how can i make a state and just play it in epsxe?

**cooliscool** · July 1st, 2002

can someone send me a savestate of spryo i can play? (i miss that game

)

Fr0g · July 1st, 2002

i can send ya...
too big to attach here tho!

Omegainf · July 1st, 2002

prafull: wow! I'm impressed! I didn't know this could be done. So, I think it's time for me to start gathering savestates and finding a server for them

**Prafull** · July 1st, 2002

Thats what the actual purpose of savestatecentral was.

Only thing keeping us back is the space restrictions coz anything like that would surely mean gigs of uploads.Anyway with a little bit of support I may restart the project.(Mad stopped his work on the site).

Anyway, you can check this site for few savestates.

http://www.savestatecentral.hpg.ig.com.br/index.htm

Out of these, good demo values should be in.....

Akuji,dukenukem,small soldiers,tombraider3 and winning eleven 3.

**cooliscool** · July 1st, 2002

wonderful prafull!!! just one thing.. how do i play them without owning the game in epsxe ??? i would absolutely love it if u could start it up again!! that would truly be a dream come true!! please do it!! you rock dood!

**Prafull** · July 1st, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by cooliscool
wonderful prafull!!! just one thing.. how do i play them without owning the game in epsxe ??? i would absolutely love it if u could start it up again!! that would truly be a dream come true!! please do it!! you rock dood!

To play those savestates under epsxe.........

Insert any psx cd into your cd drive . Check the number/code of the psx disk( it should be something like sles_xxx.xx ). Now paste the savestate you want to run into epsxe savestates folder.Rename the savestate to the number on the psx disk you noted before and include the slot number as well.

e.g. If your psx disk number is sles_012.56 then rename the savestate as sles_012.56.000 for running it in slot 1 , sles_012.56.001 for slot 2 and so on.

Run the psx disk, now when you will select load state option it will load savestate from different game then what you have in your cd drive.

I hope that made some sense.

Now it may look that this discussion is going offtopic but we are still discussing psx demos in the form of savestates so I guess its no problem.

**cooliscool** · July 1st, 2002

thanks so much prafull i wish i had something to give you.. wait! here take a cookie

**cooliscool** · July 1st, 2002

YES!! heres some akuji!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!

**cooliscool** · July 1st, 2002

another!! YESS!!!

**cooliscool** · July 1st, 2002

hey prafull do u have any other sources? also, what ware some old ones that i might be able to play the whole way through? thanks alot man

**cooliscool** · July 1st, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Omegainf
prafull: wow! I'm impressed! I didn't know this could be done. So, I think it's time for me to start gathering savestates and finding a server for them

that would be an awesome idea! maybe NGemu could host?

Omegainf · July 1st, 2002

:joice: Thanks for all th info prafull! And sxamiga, thanks for the enlightment, now I can see the point.

I have tons of savestates that I'd love to share so, if the savestate project that prafull had mentioned resume I'd love to contribute with my states.
Wow! I'm really excited about the idea! Now I can try all those psx games I wanted to buy before actually buying them.

Tip: Using getright to dl the states from the url above will result on corrupted files.

**cooliscool** · July 2nd, 2002

yeah i noticed that too omega, but they're samll so no worries

takwu · July 3rd, 2002

hmm, I never knew about these savestates stuff.
Good way to try a game without buying. I am not 100% sure about the legality of it tho... In a way, a small part of a commercial game is read from the CD into the emu, and then the emu saves it into a file, which is then distributed...

Anyway, if this is generally accepted as a way of life, then why do we have to hack the savestates in order to play? Can somebody convince the ePSXe team to have a direct support for that? Or some 3rd party util to ease the pain in the butt?
Meanwhile, the next time I see a nice pic in the screenshots forum, I might just ask for a savestate

Omegainf · July 3rd, 2002

Hello guys, it's me again! I've just created an account @ hpg (it's said to have unlimited space storage...) and I'll start to build a SaveState resource

Shortly I'll put an e-mail here so you can get in touch with me if you wish to contribute with savestates (or any other help).

Best regards,
Omegainf

Mad · July 3rd, 2002

hey guys, that just wonderfull!!!
im in vacation now, so i can kinda improve the site a little

**Bgnome** · July 3rd, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by takwu
hmm, I never knew about these savestates stuff.
Good way to try a game without buying. I am not 100% sure about the legality of it tho... In a way, a small part of a commercial game is read from the CD into the emu, and then the emu saves it into a file, which is then distributed...
Anyway, if this is generally accepted as a way of life, then why do we have to hack the savestates in order to play? Can somebody convince the ePSXe team to have a direct support for that? Or some 3rd party util to ease the pain in the butt?
Meanwhile, the next time I see a nice pic in the screenshots forum, I might just ask for a savestate

this matter was discussed prior to the openeing of savestate central. since savestates were sent around, much like memcards, for debugging and other such purposes, we came to the conclusion that this "demo" thing was an added perk. if you wish to use it for such a purpose then that was your choice.
as for "hacking" it, all you are really doing is just getting epsxe to load that partiicular savestate with your cd. i dont think it would make too much sense to have epsxe have the option of loading a savestate without the corresponding cd, since most people would just find that confusing..

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Prafull Administrator, PCSX2 tester Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 683	For some games savestates can work even better than demos. e.g. Ridge Racer--- you can play the whole game.(as with other old games). Gt2 and other racing games--- you can have hours of game play (one full race). Most level based games--- you can play one full level. Most sports game--- you can play one full match. I think thats much more than what we can expect considering that size of these savestates is only around 1.4 mb edit This portion of the thread has been moved from a previous thread so dont ask questions. __________________ E6750, Abit ip35E, XFX 8600GT 256 MB DDR3, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 RAM Last edited by Prafull; July 8th, 2002 at 18:45.

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cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,179	that sounds awesome, ive seen warez versions of RR on the net that are only a meg.. are those savestates? also, how can i make a state and just play it in epsxe? __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

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cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,179	can someone send me a savestate of spryo i can play? (i miss that game) __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

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Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	prafull: wow! I'm impressed! I didn't know this could be done. So, I think it's time for me to start gathering savestates and finding a server for them __________________

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Prafull Administrator, PCSX2 tester Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 683	Thats what the actual purpose of savestatecentral was. Only thing keeping us back is the space restrictions coz anything like that would surely mean gigs of uploads.Anyway with a little bit of support I may restart the project.(Mad stopped his work on the site). Anyway, you can check this site for few savestates. http://www.savestatecentral.hpg.ig.com.br/index.htm Out of these, good demo values should be in..... Akuji,dukenukem,small soldiers,tombraider3 and winning eleven 3. __________________ E6750, Abit ip35E, XFX 8600GT 256 MB DDR3, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 RAM

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Fr0g r\|bb\|t Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: everywhere Posts: 530	i can send ya... too big to attach here tho!

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cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,179	wonderful prafull!!! just one thing.. how do i play them without owning the game in epsxe ??? i would absolutely love it if u could start it up again!! that would truly be a dream come true!! please do it!! you rock dood! __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

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cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,179	thanks so much prafull i wish i had something to give you.. wait! here take a cookie __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

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cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,179	hey prafull do u have any other sources? also, what ware some old ones that i might be able to play the whole way through? thanks alot man __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

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Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	:joice: Thanks for all th info prafull! And sxamiga, thanks for the enlightment, now I can see the point. I have tons of savestates that I'd love to share so, if the savestate project that prafull had mentioned resume I'd love to contribute with my states. Wow! I'm really excited about the idea! Now I can try all those psx games I wanted to buy before actually buying them. Tip: Using getright to dl the states from the url above will result on corrupted files. __________________ Last edited by Omegainf; July 1st, 2002 at 23:39.

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cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,179	yeah i noticed that too omega, but they're samll so no worries __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

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takwu previous extinction Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,855	hmm, I never knew about these savestates stuff. Good way to try a game without buying. I am not 100% sure about the legality of it tho... In a way, a small part of a commercial game is read from the CD into the emu, and then the emu saves it into a file, which is then distributed... Anyway, if this is generally accepted as a way of life, then why do we have to hack the savestates in order to play? Can somebody convince the ePSXe team to have a direct support for that? Or some 3rd party util to ease the pain in the butt? Meanwhile, the next time I see a nice pic in the screenshots forum, I might just ask for a savestate __________________ Latest toy: Sharp LCD TV Monitor LL-M17W1U

July 3rd, 2002	#18 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	Hello guys, it's me again! I've just created an account @ hpg (it's said to have unlimited space storage...) and I'll start to build a SaveState resource Shortly I'll put an e-mail here so you can get in touch with me if you wish to contribute with savestates (or any other help). Best regards, Omegainf __________________

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