Little problem with FF9

tomawashi · May 24th, 2002

Hello
I'm playing this game with the great epsxe, using Pete OGL 1.61 and Eternal SPU 1.30. I run the game from a .bin file.
It runs very well, but sometimes I notice annoying slowdowns. It occurs at the begining of each battle (when the monsters and characters appear) or when I use some magical attacks (still only at the begining of the attack, most of the time). I first thought it was because I lacked VRAM (16 Mb TNT2) but it doesn't slow down with Pete's soft plugin, so I guess there is another reason.
My specs :
Celeron 600@900 Mhz
TNT2 16Mb AGP (Asus)
512 Mb SDRAM
Thanks !

**Kane** · May 24th, 2002

It's the use of Framebuffer effects that is doing that. If you want a constant speed, set framebuffer textures to 1, or set it to 0 and enable 'Full vRam Primatives'

tomawashi · May 24th, 2002

Well, I'm not talking about the swirl effect... Framebuffer textures are already set to 1 (black), since when I activate them, I get like 1 FPS at the begining of each fight.
Any other idea ?

**Kane** · May 24th, 2002

What resoloution are you running in?

tomawashi · May 24th, 2002

Usually in 800x600, but it's exactly the same in 640x480. I don't run it in 1024 because it slows down in the menus.

**Kane** · May 24th, 2002

That's really odd. I can't think of anything off the top of my head....

**fivefeet8** · May 24th, 2002

Hmm... Your running from and iso so it shouldn't slow down.. FVP is off right? Maybe your hd is slow or it needs a defrag.. Try another psx iso and see if it does the same..

tomawashi · May 24th, 2002

No, it's strange but this problem doesn't happen with a soft plugin, so I don't think it is because of the loading times of the hd.

SnakeBite · May 25th, 2002

I get a slowdown at the beginning at the battles too, and it's like the fps is "jumping" up and down... but it turn back into normal when everything is loaded... maybe it's because I have s slow computer... (I think it's 412 or 450 MHz)

Cless · May 25th, 2002

sounds like fvp is your problem or frame buffer read. turn both of them off.

tomawashi · May 25th, 2002

No, both are already turned off. It's unplayable if I enable them, anyway... I'll soon get a GeForce2 MX, I'll see if it's better (and maybe the lack of VRAM is the problem afterall)... I'll post here to let you know

TIDUSXevax01 · May 25th, 2002

The battels are smooth. Use a iso instead of cd.

MrRCS · May 25th, 2002

Use Daemon Tools to use the ISO. The games Work better if you use daemon tools.

Amberion · May 26th, 2002

He's using a bin, which is a cd dump onto the hard drive. Same thing as an ISO, mostly.

Geez, guys, read all the post before you pop in with suggestions.

Well... have you tried updating your video card drivers? Defrag your hard drive, as someone here suggested, and also, try bumping your cpu back down, see if that does anything. An overclocked CPU would be one of the first things I'd check

Also, do a text dump of your settings using pete's dump option in the video config window, and copy it here.

Amberion

tomawashi · June 10th, 2002

I know have a geforce2 MX400 with Detonators XP 23.12. It's much better ! But I tried to enable the framebuffer textures (gfx card buffer) to see the swirl effect. It's very smooth for this effect, but when I use some magics (like "fire+", I don't know its name in English

), there is a pause of one or two seconds... Same thing when I exit a battle, or randomly on the world map. Very frustrating ! And as soon as I disable framebuffer textures, everything is ok... But I'd like to see the swirl effect !

Any ideas ?

**Betamax** · June 10th, 2002

The only way around that is to use the ingame gpu config panel. Press delete (That's delete NOT backspace) to show it. Then press insert to view instructions. Page up/down selects the option and end/home toggle it.

Basically goto the framebuffer option and toggle it on/off as required. Although it really is a pain just for a few seconds worth of graphics.

May 24th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
tomawashi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FRANCE Posts: 8	Little problem with FF9 Hello I'm playing this game with the great epsxe, using Pete OGL 1.61 and Eternal SPU 1.30. I run the game from a .bin file. It runs very well, but sometimes I notice annoying slowdowns. It occurs at the begining of each battle (when the monsters and characters appear) or when I use some magical attacks (still only at the begining of the attack, most of the time). I first thought it was because I lacked VRAM (16 Mb TNT2) but it doesn't slow down with Pete's soft plugin, so I guess there is another reason. My specs : Celeron 600@900 Mhz TNT2 16Mb AGP (Asus) 512 Mb SDRAM Thanks !

May 24th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	It's the use of Framebuffer effects that is doing that. If you want a constant speed, set framebuffer textures to 1, or set it to 0 and enable 'Full vRam Primatives' __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	What resoloution are you running in? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 24th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	That's really odd. I can't think of anything off the top of my head.... __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,582	Hmm... Your running from and iso so it shouldn't slow down.. FVP is off right? Maybe your hd is slow or it needs a defrag.. Try another psx iso and see if it does the same.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Winows XP Pro/Vista 64bit\|\| 2nd Rig\|\|Athlon64 x2 3800+\|2x1 gig PC3200\|BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra OC @450/1250 agp\|60 gig Maxtor IDE HD 7200 RPM\|40 gig Maxtor IDE HD\|Asrock Dual SATA2\|Silver Aluminum ATX\|17" LCD\|\| 3rd Rig\|\|Athlon Xp 2800+\|1.5 gig PC2700\|BFG GeforceFx 5900 Ultra OC agp\|100 gig Maxtor SATA HD\|NF7-s rev2.0\|Nvidia Soundstorm MCP\|19" CRT\|\|

May 24th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
tomawashi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FRANCE Posts: 8	Well, I'm not talking about the swirl effect... Framebuffer textures are already set to 1 (black), since when I activate them, I get like 1 FPS at the begining of each fight. Any other idea ?

May 24th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
tomawashi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FRANCE Posts: 8	Usually in 800x600, but it's exactly the same in 640x480. I don't run it in 1024 because it slows down in the menus.

May 24th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
tomawashi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FRANCE Posts: 8	No, it's strange but this problem doesn't happen with a soft plugin, so I don't think it is because of the loading times of the hd.

May 25th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
SnakeBite Single Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 667	I get a slowdown at the beginning at the battles too, and it's like the fps is "jumping" up and down... but it turn back into normal when everything is loaded... maybe it's because I have s slow computer... (I think it's 412 or 450 MHz) __________________ This is my new improved sig.

May 25th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Cless Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,809	sounds like fvp is your problem or frame buffer read. turn both of them off.

May 25th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
tomawashi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FRANCE Posts: 8	No, both are already turned off. It's unplayable if I enable them, anyway... I'll soon get a GeForce2 MX, I'll see if it's better (and maybe the lack of VRAM is the problem afterall)... I'll post here to let you know

May 25th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
TIDUSXevax01 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, BC Posts: 125	The battels are smooth. Use a iso instead of cd.

May 25th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
MrRCS Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 10	Use Daemon Tools to use the ISO. The games Work better if you use daemon tools.

May 26th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Amberion +5 Holy Avenger P90 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: St. John's, NFLD, Canada Posts: 128	He's using a bin, which is a cd dump onto the hard drive. Same thing as an ISO, mostly. Geez, guys, read all the post before you pop in with suggestions. Well... have you tried updating your video card drivers? Defrag your hard drive, as someone here suggested, and also, try bumping your cpu back down, see if that does anything. An overclocked CPU would be one of the first things I'd check Also, do a text dump of your settings using pete's dump option in the video config window, and copy it here. Amberion __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Asus M2N-MX SE rev. 2.01G 2GB PC6400 DDR2 SDRAM Geforce 8600GT 256MB 19" Widescreen LCD@1440x900 Sound Blaster Audigy LS LG DVDRAM DVD writer. Logitech Wingman Rumble Pad Running Windows XP Home

June 10th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
tomawashi Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: FRANCE Posts: 8	I know have a geforce2 MX400 with Detonators XP 23.12. It's much better ! But I tried to enable the framebuffer textures (gfx card buffer) to see the swirl effect. It's very smooth for this effect, but when I use some magics (like "fire+", I don't know its name in English ), there is a pause of one or two seconds... Same thing when I exit a battle, or randomly on the world map. Very frustrating ! And as soon as I disable framebuffer textures, everything is ok... But I'd like to see the swirl effect ! Any ideas ?

June 10th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	The only way around that is to use the ingame gpu config panel. Press delete (That's delete NOT backspace) to show it. Then press insert to view instructions. Page up/down selects the option and end/home toggle it. Basically goto the framebuffer option and toggle it on/off as required. Although it really is a pain just for a few seconds worth of graphics. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

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