chrono cross (wont even start)

Gesthal · May 14th, 2002

Well, I want to play Chrono Cross. The thing is, I only get to the "Sqaure blaha blah blehe", then it dies with a black screen. Already tried to make an iso but it didn't do much good. Any recommendations?

Specs:
game: Chrono Cross (duh)
emu: ePSXe 1.5.2 (duh again)
gpu: Pete's OpenGl 1.61
spu: Eternal SPU Plugin 1.30
and ePSXe CDR WNT/W2K core 1.5.2.
and scph1001.bin bios
and WinXP

p4 2.0 ghz
gf3 ti200 (det 29.20, maybe I should try with some other... *sigh*)
sb live 5.1
Lite-On 24somethingB cd-rw
a DVD (unknown)

-edit-
oh and ePSXe stops reading from the cd-rom when it all stops, if you couldn't figure that out yourself

-edit 2-
now W.T.F. you see, xenogears just decided to act just like Chrono Cross does...maybe it's just Bill Gates who forgot to close the gate to hell when leaving home....

hoyoyo80 · May 14th, 2002

Show the video plugin detail...

Gesthal · May 14th, 2002

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.61
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: GeForce3/AGP/SSE2

Resolution/Color:
- 800x600 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [32 Bit]
- Keep psx aspect ratio: on

Textures:
- R8G8A8A8
- Filtering: 6
- Garbage collection: on
- VRam size: 64 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: on
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer texture: 2
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: off
- Advanced blending: on

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: on
- Full vram: off
- Game fixes: on [00000002]

there you go, anything else you'd like good sir?

hoyoyo80 · May 14th, 2002

Judging from your spec,ur setting is ok...have u try pressing F4,have you try to enable spu irq hack?Try using other sound plugin such as internal/null's....

Gesthal · May 14th, 2002

F4 doesn't do any good, but I haven't tried with diffrent sound plugins, I'll post soon again (I'm starting to think it has to do with my GC drivers)

Gesthal · May 14th, 2002

nope

internal, eternal, pete's, null...

**Kane** · May 14th, 2002

What special Games fixes are on?

Gesthal · May 14th, 2002

when I tried to play xenogears I tried to use some special game fix, didn't use it for CC though

Ultragunner · May 14th, 2002

try changing to the 7502 bios and setting the options-> country to autodetect.

Gesthal · May 14th, 2002

7502 didn't help either
tested PeopsSoftGpu105, didn't work
bad cd? does CC need some kind of subchannel whatever?

**Kane** · May 14th, 2002

CC doesn't have any soft protectopy AFAIK. Try it on the PSX itself

evil aloha · May 14th, 2002

I always use the 1001.bin and works fine....

Gesthal · May 14th, 2002

im to tired to do it now but tomorrow I'll test a few diffrent GC drivers (there's always problems with nVidias detonator drivers in one way or another)
thanks for all the help so far anyway

Phoenix Flame · May 15th, 2002

Don't use beta drivers, they only cause troubles. Especially the 29.xx ones since the majority of them are hacked to bits or missing parts. Also, ePSXe is really sensitive to overclocking, if that's your thing.

Also check your CD - if it's totally thrashed then get the scratches removed or buy a new one.

G-Pitts · May 15th, 2002

Check the cd if it can run in the real psx. Uncheck the special game fix(it slow everything, only use it for Xenogears).

Gesthal · May 15th, 2002

If I had a psx why whould I be using a emu?
anyway. the beginning of CC cd1 is obviously screwd, BUT (and why didn't I try this at once?) if I load cd2 first, choose new game, it tells me to change to cd1, and when I do, it works!

Gesthal · May 15th, 2002

Well I got it working, using auto-detect FPS limit, the FPS stays at 59.9 most of the time, in battles it drops down to 30-40 from time to time, when using some element or whatever. And it only seem to work with ePSXe spu core, using Eternal completely kills the fps to 10 or so...

**Chrono Archangel** · May 15th, 2002

Try using Pete's DX6 D3D plugin

hoyoyo80 · May 15th, 2002

actually i don't know how to config eternal spu thing,when i use the save/loadstates the sound will crackle/sound glitches whatsoever...maybe my stupid built-in sound system

Nameless · May 15th, 2002

Hmmm, r u using cheats? If so, DON'T. CC really doesn't like cheaters (seriously)

May 14th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	chrono cross (wont even start) Well, I want to play Chrono Cross. The thing is, I only get to the "Sqaure blaha blah blehe", then it dies with a black screen. Already tried to make an iso but it didn't do much good. Any recommendations? Specs: game: Chrono Cross (duh) emu: ePSXe 1.5.2 (duh again) gpu: Pete's OpenGl 1.61 spu: Eternal SPU Plugin 1.30 and ePSXe CDR WNT/W2K core 1.5.2. and scph1001.bin bios and WinXP p4 2.0 ghz gf3 ti200 (det 29.20, maybe I should try with some other... sigh) sb live 5.1 Lite-On 24somethingB cd-rw a DVD (unknown) -edit- oh and ePSXe stops reading from the cd-rom when it all stops, if you couldn't figure that out yourself -edit 2- now W.T.F. you see, xenogears just decided to act just like Chrono Cross does...maybe it's just Bill Gates who forgot to close the gate to hell when leaving home.... __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal Last edited by Gesthal; May 14th, 2002 at 19:09.

May 14th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
hoyoyo80 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Darkside Of Xeen Posts: 1,124	Show the video plugin detail... __________________ Signature filesize too large

May 14th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.61 Author: Pete Bernert Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation GFX card: GeForce3/AGP/SSE2 Resolution/Color: - 800x600 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [32 Bit] - Keep psx aspect ratio: on Textures: - R8G8A8A8 - Filtering: 6 - Garbage collection: on - VRam size: 64 MBytes Framerate: - FPS limitation: on - Frame skipping: on - FPS limit: Auto Compatibility: - Offscreen drawing: 2 - Framebuffer texture: 2 - Alpha multipass: on - Mask bit: off - Advanced blending: on Misc: - Scanlines: off - Line mode: off - Unfiltered FB: off - Dithering: off - Screen smoothing: on - Full vram: off - Game fixes: on [00000002] there you go, anything else you'd like good sir? __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal

May 14th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
hoyoyo80 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Darkside Of Xeen Posts: 1,124	Judging from your spec,ur setting is ok...have u try pressing F4,have you try to enable spu irq hack?Try using other sound plugin such as internal/null's.... __________________ Signature filesize too large

May 14th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	F4 doesn't do any good, but I haven't tried with diffrent sound plugins, I'll post soon again (I'm starting to think it has to do with my GC drivers) __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal

May 14th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	nope internal, eternal, pete's, null... __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal

May 14th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	What special Games fixes are on? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 14th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	when I tried to play xenogears I tried to use some special game fix, didn't use it for CC though __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal

May 14th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Ultragunner S.E.E.D. Mode Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 997	try changing to the 7502 bios and setting the options-> country to autodetect. __________________ PC Specs:

May 14th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	7502 didn't help either tested PeopsSoftGpu105, didn't work bad cd? does CC need some kind of subchannel whatever? __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal

May 14th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	CC doesn't have any soft protectopy AFAIK. Try it on the PSX itself __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 14th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
evil aloha The destiny of an angel Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 208	I always use the 1001.bin and works fine.... __________________ the baD Guys goes to the hell, the gOOd Guys goes to nowhere...

May 14th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	im to tired to do it now but tomorrow I'll test a few diffrent GC drivers (there's always problems with nVidias detonator drivers in one way or another) thanks for all the help so far anyway __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal

May 15th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Phoenix Flame Flood Yourself Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,342	Don't use beta drivers, they only cause troubles. Especially the 29.xx ones since the majority of them are hacked to bits or missing parts. Also, ePSXe is really sensitive to overclocking, if that's your thing. Also check your CD - if it's totally thrashed then get the scratches removed or buy a new one.

May 15th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
G-Pitts Whats Up Doc! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land Below The Wind, Malaysia Posts: 1,232	Check the cd if it can run in the real psx. Uncheck the special game fix(it slow everything, only use it for Xenogears). __________________ Kar-T-Ney + AMD Athlon64 X2 3600+ (2.25 ghz) + 4096 MB DDR2 + Geforce 7600GT 256 MB DDR3 + Realtek HD Audio + WinXP Pro SP2

May 15th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
Chrono Archangel Administrator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 7,228	Try using Pete's DX6 D3D plugin __________________ When Pigs Fly: The Death of Oink, the Birth of Dissent, and a Brief History of Record Industry Suicide.

May 15th, 2002	#20 (permalink)
Nameless r u really that bored? :P Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,925	Hmmm, r u using cheats? If so, DON'T. CC really doesn't like cheaters (seriously) __________________ --To every problem, there is a solution (other than death, of course ). So, just smile!!.....okay that's a load of crap but you already know that. 3 years and still fighting!! Systems: - Modified Mac Mini: 2GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 100GB 7200RPM HD, Dual-Boot Mac & XP - HP Tablet PC TC1100: 1.1GHz Centrino, 1GB RAM, 60GB 7200RPM HD, Vista Ultimate

May 15th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	If I had a psx why whould I be using a emu? anyway. the beginning of CC cd1 is obviously screwd, BUT (and why didn't I try this at once?) if I load cd2 first, choose new game, it tells me to change to cd1, and when I do, it works! __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal

May 15th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Gesthal Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 44	Well I got it working, using auto-detect FPS limit, the FPS stays at 59.9 most of the time, in battles it drops down to 30-40 from time to time, when using some element or whatever. And it only seem to work with ePSXe spu core, using Eternal completely kills the fps to 10 or so... __________________ This is one helluva useless signature. Emperor Gesthal

May 15th, 2002	#19 (permalink)
hoyoyo80 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Darkside Of Xeen Posts: 1,124	actually i don't know how to config eternal spu thing,when i use the save/loadstates the sound will crackle/sound glitches whatsoever...maybe my stupid built-in sound system __________________ Signature filesize too large

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