Help with OpenGL

Cyborg Ninja · May 1st, 2002

i dunno if this was asked already but is there a way for a person with a NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 model 64 Card to play with the open GL video plugin without slowing the game down so its unplayable?
cause i see when i play ff8 with the d3d it works ok but some things are glitched but when i play it with the open gl every thing is good excpet for the speed of course...so can someone please tell me if there is anything to fix this problem?

FF8 Menu with D3D

FF8 Menu with Open GL

lype · May 1st, 2002

Its a problem of software. Nvidia and microsoft doesnt work in goods softwares to force you to buy xbox or another nvidia card

**Kellicros** · May 2nd, 2002

Use older detonator drivers, 1X.XX (not detonatorXP 2X.XX!) will solve the slow-down problem, at least for me.

For the d3d one, try disable ALL special game fix and see if the glitch is still there, also, posting up your plugin configuration settings will helps a lot.

REi_FoX · May 2nd, 2002

im using a tnt2 also... dont worry about that thingy...

emu is for a substitute for the console not to turm your PC to a console...

Craig Venom · May 2nd, 2002

Since yuu're using riva tnt 2 m64, I think you should use nvidia Detonator ver 7.97. This det driver is better to use since you're riva tnt 2 m64 is compatible with directx 7. Try it.

REi_FoX · May 2nd, 2002

yup thats right detonator 7.42 is what im using all options inthe drivers are optimal for tnt2 cards

Cyborg Ninja · May 2nd, 2002

ok thanx,any idea where i can get these detonators?

G-Pitts · May 2nd, 2002

Its hard to find now but you can try Detonator 12.41, this driver also work very well with TNT2 card. Download them <a href="http://www.entcity.com/sub/downloads.asp?view=nvidia">here</a>

Cyborg Ninja · May 2nd, 2002

thanx,but the downloads there non work for me i dont know if there broken links or my i explorer is messed up but anyway

here is my configuration for D3D with ff8

G-Pitts · May 2nd, 2002

Sorry for that broken link, Try <a href="http://www.3dchipset.com/drivers/official/nvidia/1241/win-9x-me.shtml">here</a> confirm to work.

G-Pitts · May 2nd, 2002

Also try this setting:

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.61
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: GeForce2 GTS/AGP/SSE

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [16 Bit]
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off

Textures:
- R5G5B5A1
- Filtering: 6
- Garbage collection: on
- VRam size: 32 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: 63

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer texture: 2
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: off
- Advanced blending: on

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: on
- Screen smoothing: off
- Full vram: off
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

G-Pitts · May 2nd, 2002

BTW, use pete D3D or DX6D3D and apply the same setting I give above.

Cyborg Ninja · May 2nd, 2002

hmmm i tried both settings in both plugins and its pretty much same thing for d3d the menu is all glitched up and for OpenGL menu is still good but game is waaay to slow and that link you gave me everytime i click on "download this driver" it keeps saving it as html i dont know why do i have to like open it from current location?

Cyborg Ninja · May 2nd, 2002

ok the download worked now can you tell me where i unzip all those dll files into?

**Kane** · May 2nd, 2002

Unzip them all into the ePSXe/plugins directory.

**liquid** · May 2nd, 2002

unzip the files into a temporary folder on your HD and look for a readme file inside it should tell you how to install the video card. otherwise you may want to download the newest detonators from nvidia's website, these come in a self-extracting form. (I'm using the newest drivers at work on a TNT2 M64 and no problems there).

p.s. lord kane I think he might be referring to the video drivers, you wouldn't want to unzip that in the epsxe directory

Cyborg Ninja · May 2nd, 2002

the detonator files?

**liquid** · May 2nd, 2002

yes, create a folder on your Hard drive and unzip the detonator files into there.

Cyborg Ninja · May 2nd, 2002

oh this zip came with no read me files all dll files

**liquid** · May 2nd, 2002

the instructions are different depending on the version of windows
usually you can to goto the device manager and update the drivers, just locate the folder which has the unziped detonator files.

May 1st, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Cyborg Ninja Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	Help with OpenGL i dunno if this was asked already but is there a way for a person with a NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 model 64 Card to play with the open GL video plugin without slowing the game down so its unplayable? cause i see when i play ff8 with the d3d it works ok but some things are glitched but when i play it with the open gl every thing is good excpet for the speed of course...so can someone please tell me if there is anything to fix this problem? FF8 Menu with D3D FF8 Menu with Open GL

May 2nd, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,686	Use older detonator drivers, 1X.XX (not detonatorXP 2X.XX!) will solve the slow-down problem, at least for me. For the d3d one, try disable ALL special game fix and see if the glitch is still there, also, posting up your plugin configuration settings will helps a lot. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

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REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,649	im using a tnt2 also... dont worry about that thingy... emu is for a substitute for the console not to turm your PC to a console... __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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Craig Venom Author Of OverDrive Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Jay Bee, Johor, Malaysia Posts: 299	Since yuu're using riva tnt 2 m64, I think you should use nvidia Detonator ver 7.97. This det driver is better to use since you're riva tnt 2 m64 is compatible with directx 7. Try it. __________________ System Spec : Intel Pentium IV 1.8A @ 2.66 Ghz \|\|Asus P4S533-E Mobo\|\|512 PC2700 DDR 333 @ 370 \|\|nVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 @ 290/590\|\|Soundblaster Live! 5.1\|\|Samsung SyncMaster 17 Inch\|\|80Gb Western Digital w/ 8MB Buffer 7200RPM & 40GB Seagate 7200RPM\|\|WinXP Pro SP 1\| sig removed, try reading the sig rules OverDrive Author

May 2nd, 2002	#6 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,649	yup thats right detonator 7.42 is what im using all options inthe drivers are optimal for tnt2 cards __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

May 1st, 2002	#2 (permalink)
lype Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 30	Its a problem of software. Nvidia and microsoft doesnt work in goods softwares to force you to buy xbox or another nvidia card

May 2nd, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Cyborg Ninja Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	ok thanx,any idea where i can get these detonators?

May 2nd, 2002	#8 (permalink)
G-Pitts Whats Up Doc! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land Below The Wind, Malaysia Posts: 1,232	Its hard to find now but you can try Detonator 12.41, this driver also work very well with TNT2 card. Download them <a href="http://www.entcity.com/sub/downloads.asp?view=nvidia">here</a> __________________ Kar-T-Ney + AMD Athlon64 X2 3600+ (2.25 ghz) + 4096 MB DDR2 + Geforce 7600GT 256 MB DDR3 + Realtek HD Audio + WinXP Pro SP2

May 2nd, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Cyborg Ninja Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	thanx,but the downloads there non work for me i dont know if there broken links or my i explorer is messed up but anyway here is my configuration for D3D with ff8 __________________ [[[]OS:WinXP Home Edition 5.1 Service Pack 2]] [[[]CPU:AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4400+, 2.20 GHz]] [[[]Video:HP mx705 CRT Monitor on ATi ATI Radeon X1900GT]] [[[]PSU:HIPRO 500W ATX v2.01]] [[[]RAM: Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) SDRAM DDR 400 (PC3200)]]

May 2nd, 2002	#10 (permalink)
G-Pitts Whats Up Doc! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land Below The Wind, Malaysia Posts: 1,232	Sorry for that broken link, Try <a href="http://www.3dchipset.com/drivers/official/nvidia/1241/win-9x-me.shtml">here</a> confirm to work. __________________ Kar-T-Ney + AMD Athlon64 X2 3600+ (2.25 ghz) + 4096 MB DDR2 + Geforce 7600GT 256 MB DDR3 + Realtek HD Audio + WinXP Pro SP2

May 2nd, 2002	#11 (permalink)
G-Pitts Whats Up Doc! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land Below The Wind, Malaysia Posts: 1,232	Also try this setting: Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.61 Author: Pete Bernert Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation GFX card: GeForce2 GTS/AGP/SSE Resolution/Color: - 640x480 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [16 Bit] - Keep psx aspect ratio: off Textures: - R5G5B5A1 - Filtering: 6 - Garbage collection: on - VRam size: 32 MBytes Framerate: - FPS limitation: on - Frame skipping: off - FPS limit: 63 Compatibility: - Offscreen drawing: 2 - Framebuffer texture: 2 - Alpha multipass: on - Mask bit: off - Advanced blending: on Misc: - Scanlines: off - Line mode: off - Unfiltered FB: off - Dithering: on - Screen smoothing: off - Full vram: off - Game fixes: off [00000000] __________________ Kar-T-Ney + AMD Athlon64 X2 3600+ (2.25 ghz) + 4096 MB DDR2 + Geforce 7600GT 256 MB DDR3 + Realtek HD Audio + WinXP Pro SP2

May 2nd, 2002	#12 (permalink)
G-Pitts Whats Up Doc! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land Below The Wind, Malaysia Posts: 1,232	BTW, use pete D3D or DX6D3D and apply the same setting I give above. __________________ Kar-T-Ney + AMD Athlon64 X2 3600+ (2.25 ghz) + 4096 MB DDR2 + Geforce 7600GT 256 MB DDR3 + Realtek HD Audio + WinXP Pro SP2

May 2nd, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Cyborg Ninja Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	hmmm i tried both settings in both plugins and its pretty much same thing for d3d the menu is all glitched up and for OpenGL menu is still good but game is waaay to slow and that link you gave me everytime i click on "download this driver" it keeps saving it as html i dont know why do i have to like open it from current location? __________________ [[[]OS:WinXP Home Edition 5.1 Service Pack 2]] [[[]CPU:AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4400+, 2.20 GHz]] [[[]Video:HP mx705 CRT Monitor on ATi ATI Radeon X1900GT]] [[[]PSU:HIPRO 500W ATX v2.01]] [[[]RAM: Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) SDRAM DDR 400 (PC3200)]]

May 2nd, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Cyborg Ninja Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	ok the download worked now can you tell me where i unzip all those dll files into? __________________ [[[]OS:WinXP Home Edition 5.1 Service Pack 2]] [[[]CPU:AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4400+, 2.20 GHz]] [[[]Video:HP mx705 CRT Monitor on ATi ATI Radeon X1900GT]] [[[]PSU:HIPRO 500W ATX v2.01]] [[[]RAM: Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) SDRAM DDR 400 (PC3200)]]

May 2nd, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Unzip them all into the ePSXe/plugins directory. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 2nd, 2002	#16 (permalink)
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,089	unzip the files into a temporary folder on your HD and look for a readme file inside it should tell you how to install the video card. otherwise you may want to download the newest detonators from nvidia's website, these come in a self-extracting form. (I'm using the newest drivers at work on a TNT2 M64 and no problems there). p.s. lord kane I think he might be referring to the video drivers, you wouldn't want to unzip that in the epsxe directory __________________ ...no sig for now

May 2nd, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Cyborg Ninja Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	the detonator files? __________________ [[[]OS:WinXP Home Edition 5.1 Service Pack 2]] [[[]CPU:AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4400+, 2.20 GHz]] [[[]Video:HP mx705 CRT Monitor on ATi ATI Radeon X1900GT]] [[[]PSU:HIPRO 500W ATX v2.01]] [[[]RAM: Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) SDRAM DDR 400 (PC3200)]]

May 2nd, 2002	#18 (permalink)
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,089	yes, create a folder on your Hard drive and unzip the detonator files into there. __________________ ...no sig for now

May 2nd, 2002	#19 (permalink)
Cyborg Ninja Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 59	oh this zip came with no read me files all dll files __________________ [[[]OS:WinXP Home Edition 5.1 Service Pack 2]] [[[]CPU:AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 4400+, 2.20 GHz]] [[[]Video:HP mx705 CRT Monitor on ATi ATI Radeon X1900GT]] [[[]PSU:HIPRO 500W ATX v2.01]] [[[]RAM: Patriot Signature 2GB (2 x 1GB) SDRAM DDR 400 (PC3200)]]

May 2nd, 2002	#20 (permalink)
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,089	the instructions are different depending on the version of windows usually you can to goto the device manager and update the drivers, just locate the folder which has the unziped detonator files. __________________ ...no sig for now

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