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Old September 25th, 2007   #1041 (permalink)
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>> Funny to see oldtimers like kelly and viper got much less active around here. Could it (gasp!) be reallife

geee, i haven't posted this here have I? and this too...

and two animated drawing stuff here:
floursack animation by ~Kellicros on deviantART
walk cycle animation by ~Kellicros on deviantART

they are pretty old though, most deviant'er have probably seen them all, but meh, there you have it.

P.s. Been busy with college and just got my semester break and now busying with Phoenix Wrights... Might post something made outta my DS(Colors) later though.
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I think ive already mentioned my drawing roots before (somewhere around this thread a loong time ago) that DBZ has always been my base style of drawing, it kinda like melded/programmed into my head already that its pretty hard to forget (DBZ is the very first anime that i really liked since i was a child). Naruto style? really? ive read and watched some episodes long ago but i stopped since i got bored with it already, same with Bleach. Speaking of naruto i think ive only drawn 1 or two sketches of it somewhere in the thread (years ago)
The drawing style i use changes slightly whenever i watch or read some manga/anime, I guess some of the drawing styles of some of them are retained in my memory and apply and mix it whenever i draw (or sketch which i always post lol). Apparently im reading Black God (KuroKami) which has a quite interesting story and art style that is easy to mimic

Inactivity? I guess im more busy in the real world(!), saving some dough for a new GPU (which was supposed to be a graphic tablet ) , and i already posted some days ago, i need to get in the mood again to doodle some more, unlike Kellicross who didn't post a long time ag........WHOA! your back! the TC is back!! nice animations i remember years ago i also like doin those stuff >.<
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Fadingz: Hint: use the Pen Tool wisely... it helps you tremendously.
I always use the pen tool in lining, even in shading/coloring, when I was using the cursor, so basically everything but that very last one XD.
pen tool + tablet = bad because you don't get the pressure control


and xD @ Rikki; I'm spamming/flooding this thread

Finished XD


ps. I didn't spent much time on the clothings , haha
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I always use the pen tool in lining, even in shading/coloring, when I was using the cursor, so basically everything but that very last one XD.
pen tool + tablet = bad because you don't get the pressure control
This is how it is for me:

Pen tool + tablet + Blur tool + Eraser = Perfect combo for vector art (which are mostly CG anime pictures).
Brush + tablet + Eraser tool = Perfect combo for traditional art simulation.


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and xD @ Rikki; I'm spamming/flooding this thread

Finished XD


ps. I didn't spent much time on the clothings , haha
Keep on flooding. I'm too busy with college to color anything properly with the mouse... and my tablet won't be here til next week.
Looking at that picture, I realized what was so funny about your art style. It's not the color that is funny... (I find it quite funny, but that's not really it) but it's the proportion? Sometimes it's somewhat... off? The hair color seems fine... (though it's quite a chaotic mess with highlights and shades in the same places...) but the proportion is really getting on me for some reason. Sorry... perfectionist's disease. I'm not satisfied with any of my works, anyway.

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P.s. Been busy with college and just got my semester break and now busying with Phoenix Wrights... Might post something made outta my DS(Colors) later though.
Are we going to the same college...?

Edit: Never mind. Read your status. lol Same situation, different place, eh?

Edit 2: And here is my first serious pic drawn using Colors!



And the background was hand-drawn all the way. If you don't believe me, I can give you the playback file of process of me making this thing~!
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Old September 27th, 2007   #1045 (permalink)
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This is how it is for me:

Pen tool + tablet + Blur tool + Eraser = Perfect combo for vector art (which are mostly CG anime pictures).
Brush + tablet + Eraser tool = Perfect combo for traditional art simulation.




Keep on flooding. I'm too busy with college to color anything properly with the mouse... and my tablet won't be here til next week.
Looking at that picture, I realized what was so funny about your art style. It's not the color that is funny... (I find it quite funny, but that's not really it) but it's the proportion? Sometimes it's somewhat... off? The hair color seems fine... (though it's quite a chaotic mess with highlights and shades in the same places...) but the proportion is really getting on me for some reason. Sorry... perfectionist's disease. I'm not satisfied with any of my works, anyway.

Anyways:

I think I was too focused on the hair XD, I only spent like 5 min on the rest lol. So the hair kinda stand out a bit due to the contrast, and I only did some random stuff on the bg too lol. It was just a test XD.
Well, what I think is that if you want to use pen tool, you can just use the cursor; what's the point of an actual pen if you are using preset pressure? You can transform the lines anyway.
You get light+shadow overlapped when ever you have two or more light sources/reflections, if you haven't noticed. Even when you get the sun right above your head, you still get reflected light from the ground or water, unless you are soaking in black ink O.O. Plus each individual hair reflects/absorbs light (the hair is not sheet/helmet looking^^). So unless you are coloring an anime, you should overlap some light with some shadow to produce more color, other wise you can just use hte gradient tool. Anyhoo, that was my point even though that was my first piece with tablet^^, just talking about some experiences with the cursor.

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The shadow makes it seems like the sun is in the middle of them as they both have shadow at the back of their hair. However, is the sun setting at the back? or is it just gradient? If it is so, then you should have the light source coming from behind the picture, which means you need to highlight the out line and have shadow at the front of the picture, for exp. the hand should be darker than the face.
Try to take advantage of the filter function if you are using Photoshop CS2 or CS3 instead of the blur tool.
Also, try not to use brush tool to color or shade the picture because you get blank spots at multiple places. (only use brush to do shadow if you are stacking the color)
For the eyes, if you look at a contact lens from the side, you see an oval shape; also, you cannot see the eye white on the other side if you are looking at the face from the side (unless the person is looking at you) The eyes will also look better if you add some eye lashes esp. if you look at it from the side.
The nose bridge of the girl seems kind of long. Try to draw the skull first, so that you can get the spots at a better place. It also seems to me that the girl has no jaw ><.
For the hair outline, use a straight line down and have some parts stand on top of another so that it wouldn't seem like a piece of hair.
One more thing about the outline is that you can use color on the outline so that it wouldn't seem so hard on the edges.
The water seems fine, but you should blend in the colors of the sky.
Here's my self made background that I abusively over used XD:

The iceberg was 3-D rendered, but the rest was drawn with cursor and Photoshop CS2


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I think ive already mentioned my drawing roots before (somewhere around this thread a loong time ago) that DBZ has always been my base style of drawing, it kinda like melded/programmed into my head already that its pretty hard to forget (DBZ is the very first anime that i really liked since i was a child). Naruto style? really? ive read and watched some episodes long ago but i stopped since i got bored with it already, same with Bleach. Speaking of naruto i think ive only drawn 1 or two sketches of it somewhere in the thread (years ago)
The drawing style i use changes slightly whenever i watch or read some manga/anime, I guess some of the drawing styles of some of them are retained in my memory and apply and mix it whenever i draw (or sketch which i always post lol). Apparently im reading Black God (KuroKami) which has a quite interesting story and art style that is easy to mimic

Inactivity? I guess im more busy in the real world(!), saving some dough for a new GPU (which was supposed to be a graphic tablet ) , and i already posted some days ago, i need to get in the mood again to doodle some more, unlike Kellicross who didn't post a long time ag........WHOA! your back! the TC is back!! nice animations i remember years ago i also like doin those stuff >.<
Draw more! I LOVE YOUT COMIC!!!!! RAWR!!!!

Anyhoo, laterz, gotta prepare for the exams XD.
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The shadow makes it seems like the sun is in the middle of them as they both have shadow at the back of their hair. However, is the sun setting at the back? or is it just gradient? If it is so, then you should have the light source coming from behind the picture, which means you need to highlight the out line and have shadow at the front of the picture, for exp. the hand should be darker than the face.
That's what you'd think... but actually, when two people are kissing that way, and they are directly in front of the sun... like...

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Sun
Person B -/
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(I think... quote my post to see this properly?)
Then the lightest part would be their faces... and then their bodies will be shaded out slowly... because the light source is weaker outside than inside. And the difference will be even more drastic if the light source is friggin' far away... and if it's dim. Here's a real life demonstration:



The two sides are not completely darkened because there are still light in there. But if the sun was directly in between them, the two sides would be darkened even more. See what I mean? Their faces are not completely darkened because they are not that close to each other.

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Try to take advantage of the filter function if you are using Photoshop CS2 or CS3 instead of the blur tool.
That was using an NDS. Solely. No photoshoping whatsoever. I'd use Photoshop only if I get a tablet... which is next week.

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Also, try not to use brush tool to color or shade the picture because you get blank spots at multiple places. (only use brush to do shadow if you are stacking the color)
That's the only thing available on the DS. That and pressure sensitive... but it's messed up because the DS is not that precise.

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For the eyes, if you look at a contact lens from the side, you see an oval shape; also, you cannot see the eye white on the other side if you are looking at the face from the side (unless the person is looking at you) The eyes will also look better if you add some eye lashes esp. if you look at it from the side.
Umm... that's only if you are trying to draw a realistic picture. And trust me. You can barely see the eyelashes of a person in that lighting condition... PLUS the distance of viewing.

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The nose bridge of the girl seems kind of long. Try to draw the skull first, so that you can get the spots at a better place. It also seems to me that the girl has no jaw ><.
She's looking up at the guy. And believe me or not, some Asian girls have very retractive jaws, and that's what makes them beautiful in Asia for some reason. XD

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For the hair outline, use a straight line down and have some parts stand on top of another so that it wouldn't seem like a piece of hair.
I draw in anime style. Not in realistic style... and it's only in realistic style when I draw people's hair like that. Most anime artists don't even bother with drawing a bunch of hair. For example: Naruto has no hair. Just a spiky piece of something that is golden... like a hedgehog. XD

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One more thing about the outline is that you can use color on the outline so that it wouldn't seem so hard on the edges.
You can barely get that kind of line on the DS... talk about changing its color. Having spent several hours wrestling with my DS's weird pressure sensitive control, I think I'll pass on the shading and the color changing at some spots. Sure I can change it, but there is little point, as... again... this is anime style. XP

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The water seems fine, but you should blend in the colors of the sky.
There is no way to blend on the NDS using Colors!. That's the closest you can get it... without messing it up with the pressure sensitive thing. XP

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Here's my self made background that I abusively over used XD:

The iceberg was 3-D rendered, but the rest was drawn with cursor and Photoshop CS2
If I tell you I made this with Photoshop... from scratch... would you believe me? <P

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More awesome pics here KplzThx
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Hmmm...
Talking about background,
does this one look better or the original one? >< can't decide
I like the tone in this one, but I like the theme of the original one T.T
Maybe I shaoiuld just change the tone in the original one lol.


Does version 1:

(original verion)

or Version 2:
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look better? ><
(I took away some yellow and light)
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Nice windows! And ehh... I think I like this one better. Simplicity beats all!
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Nice job on the proportion^^,
(little tip: a little more practice on curve and straight line will make the line art perfect ,
I'd add a few more layers of shadow if you are not afraid of messing it up XD, if you want to make it a more finished product
hint: scan it to comp and use programs to line and shade... ctrl + z FTW!!!!!!!!! XD)
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Left shoe vs right shoe proportion seems a bit... off? I would not complain about the shadows, since it's on a piece of paper, the scanner probably messed it up, and it's nicely done even then. Anyway, nice one. Would love to see more from you.

Edit: Advice: some varied lines will do your artworks wonder.
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here's one painting done with colors, i guess I can only do chibi with this small screen. His eyes are kinda weird.

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Actually, the eye zone is ok. It is the skull volume that could seem worrying, compared to hair volume, venerable coreskill-sama
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That looks fantastic, Kellicross. Which version of Colors are you using?
Oh, and Fadingz, that's the exact same thing you get for using Colors... mmm... it's Oekaki. Only exception is that in Colors, you have pressure sensitive.
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