Perpetual Artworks Thread

[masta.g.86]

Originally Posted by redlofredlof

But she does not look like one.

Originally Posted by Fadingz

Kinda' harsh. This is a work-in-progress, afterall...

@Fadz:
What is your drawing/editing path? Draw (by hand), scan, vectorize, pentool, edit and color? Or perhaps some other method?

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[Fadingz]

Hmmm I use my 3D models for reference some times.

Basic Steps:
Come up with the pose in Maya (nude+bald) -> Render -> Import to Photoshop -> Sketch up details (hair, clothing etc) using tablet -> Vectorize -> Color -> Shade -> Remove Vector -> Final lighting

If I don't use my 3D models, then I just sketch the post from say photo reference or just Mr. Woodman

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

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[strike105x]

It doesent look verry chinesse at least not now but its a verry nice drawing i really like it

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[Fadingz]

She looks more like an oriented now, haha.

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

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[masta.g.86]

Here is a pic of the end results of my first real use of Illustrator CS2. I made this during my navy days utilizing my ship's engraving machine on my clipboard as a test subject.

I first managed to find a good, "clean" hi-res line art pic of the ship's crest on the LAN. I then ran it through CS2's vectorization process (came out pretty good) and cleaned it up a bit using the pen tool. If you look at the banner, it says, "There is no light at the end of the tunnel." Originally, it said, "Lead from the front." I decided to change this based upon my own personal experiences on that floating tin can...

Instead of writing out HT2 (my rank and rating), I decided to vectorize my rating symbol. These clipboards were all the rage for a while once somebody spotted me walking around with mine. Afterwards, I had to vectorize nearly all of the other rating symbols as well. This was a pain since some of them were poorly done/were very low resolution GIFs; had to do many by scratch.

After a few years, we got a new guy who was fresh out of high school. I decided to teach him how to use the engraver since I was leaving in about a year. When I got to Illustrator, his eyes lit up in surprise. He said he knew how to use it just fine. Apparently, his high school in California offered an Adobe workshop, so I very quickly decided upon who my replacement was going to be...

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[TheCloudOfSmoke]

Beautiful WIP Fadz. Damn, you're on a roll. Also, thanks for the info about the segments.

Originally Posted by Fadingz

Hmmm I use my 3D models for reference some times.

Basic Steps:
Come up with the pose in Maya (nude+bald) -> Render -> Import to Photoshop -> Sketch up details (hair, clothing etc) using tablet -> Vectorize -> Color -> Shade -> Remove Vector -> Final lighting

If I don't use my 3D models, then I just sketch the post from say photo reference or just Mr. Woodman

Oh, I kept wanting to tell you something because I thought that you may be interested. My main reason for getting into 3D is not just to make photorealistic artwork, but to make accurate scalable vector designs. I'm sort of a perfectionist when it comes to my stuff and I don't want to guess angles/proportions. It's a real pet peeve of mine and it really prevents me from wanting to to finish artwork in fear of it not being absolutely %100 accurate. That's where Google Sketchup/Swift 3D comes in. I discovered these apps just recently and I have been hooked. I really haven't been to active on the forum lately because I've been hooked on learning Google Sketchup and I've been using most of my free time learning it. What you can do is import a 3D model into Sketchup and export as an outlined image. Even better, if you get the pro version (which I have, I convinced the boss to get it for me to use at home and at work ), you can export models to accurate vector outlines. I plan to create 3D models of what I want to make and export the outlines to vector and recreate realistic vector artwork based on the outlines. Swift 3D has the same approach, mainly for animated flash movies, but Google Sketchup is more user friendly and more intuitive. Both have their pros and cons though, but I still prefer Sketchup.

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Originally Posted by BigIg

If I support the game company, then I won't won't be supporting the blank DVD business.

Decisions, decisions.

[redlofredlof]

Originally Posted by Fadingz

Aww..don't be sad, do you do that every time I say you are on the wrong track. I'm only saying this to help you improve. If you don't want me to comment, then fine I wont. I was just trying to help

Originally Posted by masta.g.86

Kinda' harsh. This is a work-in-progress, afterall...

I know its work in progress, so pointing out mistakes at this point will be better than saying it in the end, when he wont be able to fix anything.

[Fadingz]

Originally Posted by TheCloudOfSmoke

Beautiful WIP Fadz. Damn, you're on a roll. Also, thanks for the info about the segments.



Oh, I kept wanting to tell you something because I thought that you may be interested. My main reason for getting into 3D is not just to make photorealistic artwork, but to make accurate scalable vector designs. I'm sort of a perfectionist when it comes to my stuff and I don't want to guess angles/proportions. It's a real pet peeve of mine and it really prevents me from wanting to to finish artwork in fear of it not being absolutely %100 accurate. That's where Google Sketchup/Swift 3D comes in. I discovered these apps just recently and I have been hooked. I really haven't been to active on the forum lately because I've been hooked on learning Google Sketchup and I've been using most of my free time learning it. What you can do is import a 3D model into Sketchup and export as an outlined image. Even better, if you get the pro version (which I have, I convinced the boss to get it for me to use at home and at work ), you can export models to accurate vector outlines. I plan to create 3D models of what I want to make and export the outlines to vector and recreate realistic vector artwork based on the outlines. Swift 3D has the same approach, mainly for animated flash movies, but Google Sketchup is more user friendly and more intuitive. Both have their pros and cons though, but I still prefer Sketchup.

Photoshop/illustrator CS4 has the same ability I believe
and they can import vectors to Autodesk 3dsmax and/or Maya and vice versa.
3D + 2D will give you the best result you can get.
You can get the perspective and 'correctness' of 3D while still obtain the details in 2D.

Originally Posted by redlofredlof

Aww..don't be sad, do you do that every time I say you are on the wrong track. I'm only saying this to help you improve. If you don't want me to comment, then fine I wont. I was just trying to help



I know its work in progress, so pointing out mistakes at this point will be better than saying it in the end, when he wont be able to fix anything.

Haha
It's okies, I appreciate the critiques, I'll see if I can overcome this with clothing and etc.
Well, since we currently live in US, there's no harm having a Caucasian cosplaying an Asian, hoho~

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[Fadingz]

Hair half done, added skin texture.
Have to finish it in 24 hrs (include sleep + eat + class + zoning out) ><

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

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[redlofredlof]

Originally Posted by Fadingz

Hair half done, added skin texture.
Have to finish it in 24 hrs (include sleep + eat + class + zoning out) ><

Fadingz, She's looking very pretty now. And so real, I can't tell the difference.

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Looks nice Fadz

but still not chinese

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[redlofredlof]

She looks more Indian, well, at least Asian.

[Fadingz]

Added eyebrows, fixed hair position, finished hair.

Tinted skin color too.

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

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[koko-goal]

awesome eyebrows....thanks fady for these art

[TheCloudOfSmoke]

Originally Posted by Fadingz

Photoshop/illustrator CS4 has the same ability I believe
and they can import vectors to Autodesk 3dsmax and/or Maya and vice versa.
3D + 2D will give you the best result you can get.
You can get the perspective and 'correctness' of 3D while still obtain the details in 2D.

Oh ****. Awesome! When is it coming out? I tried downloading the trial a couple of weeks ago and apparently it isn't available for download yet. As for Google Sketchup, I love it. I think that I will still use that to export vectors. It's so easy creating simple 3D designs, granted that you have the right Ruby Scripts in the plugin folder. SVG import is Godlike. I can take my flat 2D vector faces and logos and extrude them to make accurate virtual replications of the object.

Originally Posted by Fadingz

Added eyebrows, fixed hair position, finished hair.

Tinted skin color too.

I'd hit it.

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Originally Posted by BigIg

If I support the game company, then I won't won't be supporting the blank DVD business.

Decisions, decisions.

[Dax]

That's amazing, Fadz! :o

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[Fadingz]

@ TCOS:
CS4 is already out I think, at least for students.

and thank you!! ^^


Here's an update:

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

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[Dax]

She looks really realistic. I love her eyes too.

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[redlofredlof]

Amazingly realistic

[dimentionalrift]

Originally Posted by Fadingz

@dim
I think that is a bit too big xD~~~

LOL!!!
ok...
I'll downsize it...
I'll be testing it soon though...in 4 days starting 31 minutes from when I post this message.


On a different note, I've stumbled into a deadend with my drawings.
And I've got no one to ask for help around me so I'm sorry to say it'll take a while longer to finish up and post the fourth and final part of the comic strip...
Keep your fingers crossed - 15 pages and counting!

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