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Old March 10th, 2004   #261 (permalink)
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>I'm saving up to order a 1.4Ghz Celly Tualatin. And when I do... I bet I could hit 2.0Ghz with it on my CUV4X-E. That would be sooooooo cool!! What would be even cooler is if you did it Cooliscool!! Best of luck!

Buy a new cpu only to fry it again?
What the hell kind of useless comment is that? It wasn't Esturk's fault his first Tualatin fried. I'm sure next time he'll be aware of any problems.
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>I'm saving up to order a 1.4Ghz Celly Tualatin. And when I do... I bet I could hit 2.0Ghz with it on my CUV4X-E. That would be sooooooo cool!! What would be even cooler is if you did it Cooliscool!! Best of luck!

Buy a new cpu only to fry it again?
Did you read my post? My power supply was bad and failed. And yes, I will be buying a new CPU, and NO it will not get fried. I have purchased a brand new 400w Antec power supply. I am not worried about anything frying anymore.

P.S. Thanks cooliscool for your support. As I am sure that you did in fact read my thread. And the only reason you may need to volt mod your cpu, is if your motherboard doesn't allow you to change the required voltage.
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Did you read my post? My power supply was bad and failed. And yes, I will be buying a new CPU, and NO it will not get fried. I have purchased a brand new 400w Antec power supply. I am not worried about anything frying anymore.

P.S. Thanks cooliscool for your support. As I am sure that you did in fact read my thread. And the only reason you may need to volt mod your cpu, is if your motherboard doesn't allow you to change the required voltage.
I know. That's exactly it, my mobo doesn't allow manual adjustments.

I'm going to read the Tualatin's datasheet after school to find out what pins do what.
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but, if your mobo DOES allow vcore adjustments than the wire trick is unnecessary right?
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but, if your mobo DOES allow vcore adjustments than the wire trick is unnecessary right?
Yes. My motherboard supports a slew of voltages, but by default it only lets me choose whatever the CPU I have in lets me. For my 366 Celeron, I can choose between 2.0v and 2.05, 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4v. When I had my 600 Celeron Coppermine in I could choose 1.4, 1.45, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8v. When I had my Tually in I had to volt mod to get 1.45 as default voltage, otherwise my motherboard defaulted to 2.0v which is a bit high for the Tualatin. Once I did the mod, my board defaulted to 1.45v when the Tualatin was in.
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ah, i get it now
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ah, i get it now
My board is Tualatin ready, Esturk's doesn't come that way, it was made for Coppermine P3s. My board does auto Vcore detection and doesn't allow it to be adjusted manually, that's why I use the pin mod. If I could only find out which pins to connect to go up 0.3V (1.80V). I'm certain I could reach 2GHz then.. I can already hit 1850MHz (1.63V), but it isn't *completely* stable.. it ran Zelda OoT in PJ64 for about 15 minutes before rebooting, and the PC doesn't always boot at that speed.

It may be the PCI bus responding to the OC (I ran my AGP at 1X, Ram at 133, didn't help). If it is, I'm basically screwed.

edit: The Tualatin's voltage regulator is locked, so even if the board does support adjustments, you'll still need to close VSS to get the changes to be acknowledged by the CPU.
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ah, i get it now
Yep. Basically the CPU tells the motherboard which voltages you can select.

I wouldn't put that voltage TOO high cooliscool! When I first put my Tualatin in at 2.0v, it rose into the upper 60 degrees celsius. Under load it would reach 70+, therefore shutting my computer off. And I have a REALLY good hs/fan. My 550 is running at 26 celsius, 29 under load.
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well i was going to try and hit 2.9+ today...but i got too lazy...so much homework. i'll try this weekend.
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eternal11 your a student with a pc like that? Sheesh

edit'What the hell kind of useless comment is that? It wasn't Esturk's fault his first Tualatin fried. I'm sure next time he'll be aware of any problems.

Sorry just a typo.
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lol i dont buy my comps...good grades -> my dad taking me to buy a comp. just now...my grades are kinda....bad. heh. so im trying to make do with what i have now. and i am also buying parts secretly on the side hoping my parents wont notice.
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Yep. Basically the CPU tells the motherboard which voltages you can select.

I wouldn't put that voltage TOO high cooliscool! When I first put my Tualatin in at 2.0v, it rose into the upper 60 degrees celsius. Under load it would reach 70+, therefore shutting my computer off. And I have a REALLY good hs/fan. My 550 is running at 26 celsius, 29 under load.
Nah, the highest I'll go is 1.8.

Common knowledge.
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im a student too, crap i go to school with that guy, look at my PC...all paid for by my momma


edit: oops i forgot to mention. i friend my P4 so i bought the athlon. whatever. she still paid for the original stuff. <3 my mommy
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well, i just tried hitting 2.9 today with the voltage at 1.7. no luck...prime 95 still has that rounding error thing where it rounds to 0.5 when it expected 0.4. so i am guessing that that means its unstable? yep...so looks like im stuck at 2.8

EDIT: does anyone know if the dual p3 mobo (Abit VP6) supports tualitins or not? because if it does, i bet i could turn it into one 1337 rig.

EDIT AGAIN: hm nevermind, i read the review for it and it only supports coppermines and im too scared to do the mod trick thing to get it to support tualatins. but it seems that 2 1 ghz coppermines are worse than my one 2.8 ghz p4...i was just wondering to see if investing some money in the old p3 would do any good. and it supports agp 4x too so i can stick my gf4 in there and get some gaming goodness out of it.

EDIT AGAIN AGAIN (cuz im a monster, rawr!): what about dual taulatins? will they own my p4? im so tempted to invest some money into that computer and mod the mobo with my dad's help.

EDIT AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN: below is my cpu-z ss. just fyi.
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Hm, might as well post pics of my new mobo in my comp
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>EDIT: does anyone know if the dual p3 mobo (Abit VP6) supports tualitins or not? because if it does, i bet i could turn it into one 1337 rig.

Not to the best of my knowledge no. Not many boards supported those cpu's really.

>EDIT AGAIN AGAIN (cuz im a monster, rawr!): what about dual taulatins? will they own my p4? im so tempted to invest some money into that computer and mod the mobo with my dad's help.

That would be a close one, but I think the P4 would edge it out a tad. Intersting thaught.
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Dual Tualatins aren't possible except with the P3-S's which are EXTREMELY expensive. You're better off going for a single P4 Rig, alot cheaper.

In benchmarks, my 1.8 Tualatin is around the same score as a P4 2.4B. In 3DMark 2001 with a GF4 Ti 4200 I get 9103, the P4 2.4B gets 9784.
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Hm, might as well post pics of my new mobo in my comp
Is that a micro ATX mobo I see? If it is, how much do you pay and where'd you get it? BTW, is the intel stock HSF loud?
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no it isnt micro atx. its regular...atx... and yea, my stock HSF i got from hushy off of his old Alienware rig, and it can get really loud at high rpm's.
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