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**hushypushy** · March 3rd, 2004

hey SzL, could you please post what your case looks like (with the side door open). i want to see how similar it is to the other HPs ive dealt with. thanks

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aolforbroadband · March 3rd, 2004

I'll try to, my brother still may have the digital camera at his place, so you may have to wait. I already have the mobo pics on my brothers HD.

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Zeke_D · March 3rd, 2004

Well It was suggested that if I put my GF fx5600 in my duron system, it would outperform the willy 1.7. the last check of the willy was 2289. So at first glance the Duron looked better when it scored 2321.

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Zeke_D · March 4th, 2004

Of course, after matching up the tests resolution, etc, the willy did score a 2864.

I posted a bunch of information for 3dmark, any other suggestions on squeezing more performance outta my willy?

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**hushypushy** · March 4th, 2004

the poor williamette is gonna be crappy....it's kinda like having a celeron. even if you put it to 3000mhz it will still suck.

so for now...use the duron

or upgrade to a better processor that fits in your same socket...

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aolforbroadband · March 4th, 2004

Yeah Hushy but mine's on a different more efficient core

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**cooliscool** · March 4th, 2004

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Yeah Hushy but mine's on a different more efficient core

Efficient, how? Same specs, architecture, besides being on an 0.13u micron process, which doesn't equate to better performance. All it is is a P4 Celeron Willy with an 0.13u process.

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Zeke_D · March 4th, 2004

I don't see why you insist in putting the card into the duron system. The willy did bench better, and I saw better framerates while the tests were running.

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**cooliscool** · March 4th, 2004

Heh, well, the willy may perform slightly better, but look at the clock difference. If that duron was running at 1-1.1GHz, it'd crush the willy. If it works better for you, use it.

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Zeke_D · March 4th, 2004

I get what you are saying, since I am pretty dependent on having 2 computers, I am unwilling to overclock the duron system.... I might see if I can find a similar class duron processor on a junk table at a computer shop or something. What up with pcmark reporting "HT available but disabled"

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**n_w95482** · March 4th, 2004

I think the earlier P4's had HT built into them but they weren't enabled for some reason (I think something to do with program compatibility or reliability, something like that).

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**hushypushy** · March 4th, 2004

wow, that's strange...all the way back to the willy days? btw Zeke_D...honestly it doesnt matter. keep your setup the way it is. unless you are experiencing slowness or problems...your computer is fine!

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Yeah Hushy but mine's on a different more efficient core

ok, let me rephrase. not "suck" as in "the Pentium 2 whoops its ass", more like "sucks compared to what's around it". my friend OCed his 2.4B up to 2.8, no biggie, it's on stock cooling and all. that thing is gonna kick your 3.3 celeron's ass. same core, 500 less mhz. twice as much L2 cache, which makes a difference.

just like the willy. the willy isnt utter crap, im sure it suits Zeke_D just fine (@zeke: feel free to correct me if i'm wrong). however, the Tualatin P3's (the 1.4 for example) would crush the 1.7 of Zeke.

get what i meant?

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Foxfyre · March 4th, 2004

Well, my digital camera just broke, but it looks like I really don't need to take a pic anyway, as cooliscool has the same case I do. How do you like the case?? I love it!!!

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Zeke_D · March 4th, 2004

I want more performance, but without spending money I dont have

Also, anyone know how to unlock the willy?

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aolforbroadband · March 4th, 2004

Zeke- I'm pretty sure all modern Intel CPUs have locked multipliers. If you want more performance you can overclock if you can, but you said you were unwilling. I wouldn't be that afraid to OC if I were you, it's not as dangerous as many may think, but it's your call. You could buy a P4 1.8a for $115 at newegg.com.

Hushy: Yes, but my 3.3 suits me fine

So it's not a problem, but the old willy Celes were indeed not the best. I just like NW's cuz they operate cooler and are easy as hell to overclock.

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**hushypushy** · March 4th, 2004

the Athlon XP's operate cool and are easy to overclock too, but you dissed them a lot in the past....

btw zeke_d, dont get a P4a. those suck just as badly as the Willy's, they are basically a celeron with their 400mhz FSB (even though they are northwoods)

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Zeke_D · March 5th, 2004

I would OC, but the multiplier is locked, and my board does not support any other method of OC'ing

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**hushypushy** · March 5th, 2004

well if you cant change the FSB you are screwed..although most boards have jumpers to change them, thats not what you are looking for.

and anyway, what do you need the extra performance for anyway? more Pcmarks?

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**cooliscool** · March 5th, 2004

You can software OC, all it takes is looking on your board and finding your PLL model. CPUFSB works awesome, I used it to OC my K6-2 when hardware OCing failed.

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**hushypushy** · March 5th, 2004

for some reason that seems really iffy to me, the only thing i trust is my mobo

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March 3rd, 2004	#161 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,978	hey SzL, could you please post what your case looks like (with the side door open). i want to see how similar it is to the other HPs ive dealt with. thanks __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

March 3rd, 2004	#162 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,836	I'll try to, my brother still may have the digital camera at his place, so you may have to wait. I already have the mobo pics on my brothers HD. __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

March 4th, 2004	#165 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,978	the poor williamette is gonna be crappy....it's kinda like having a celeron. even if you put it to 3000mhz it will still suck. so for now...use the duron or upgrade to a better processor that fits in your same socket... __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

March 4th, 2004	#166 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,836	Yeah Hushy but mine's on a different more efficient core __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

March 4th, 2004	#168 (permalink)
Zeke_D 100% emulated freak Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Ari-fu ckin-zona Posts: 1,028	I don't see why you insist in putting the card into the duron system. The willy did bench better, and I saw better framerates while the tests were running. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ \| 2.0GB PC3200 \| Maxtor 120GB sATA\| GeForce 6800 GS 256MB Insignia IS-CM100751 19" \| XP Pro SP2 \| LG 16x Lightscribe DVD+/-RW \| Realtek Audio

March 4th, 2004	#169 (permalink)
cooliscool Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 6,828	Heh, well, the willy may perform slightly better, but look at the clock difference. If that duron was running at 1-1.1GHz, it'd crush the willy. If it works better for you, use it. __________________ Bottles' Glasses - Banjo Kazooie/Tooie model viewer and ripper

March 4th, 2004	#170 (permalink)
Zeke_D 100% emulated freak Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Ari-fu ckin-zona Posts: 1,028	I get what you are saying, since I am pretty dependent on having 2 computers, I am unwilling to overclock the duron system.... I might see if I can find a similar class duron processor on a junk table at a computer shop or something. What up with pcmark reporting "HT available but disabled" __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ \| 2.0GB PC3200 \| Maxtor 120GB sATA\| GeForce 6800 GS 256MB Insignia IS-CM100751 19" \| XP Pro SP2 \| LG 16x Lightscribe DVD+/-RW \| Realtek Audio

March 4th, 2004	#171 (permalink)
n_w95482 Totally crazy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,777	I think the earlier P4's had HT built into them but they weren't enabled for some reason (I think something to do with program compatibility or reliability, something like that). __________________ Main PC: Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 920 C0 @ 3.7 GHz (195x19, 1.3v core, 1.84v PLL, 1.3625v uncore) w/Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, 3x2 GB G Skill PC3-12800 @ 780 MHz, 7-7-7-21-1T, 1.66v; ATi Radeon HD 4870 1 GB @ 790/1000 w/Zalman VF-1000, 300 GB WD VelociRaptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), 3ware 9650SE-4LPML RAID controller, SB X-Fi Titanium, Seasonic M12D 750w, CM Stacker 810, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, Dell 2007WFP XBL/PSN/WoW: Thordrune

March 4th, 2004	#173 (permalink)
Foxfyre Emulation Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 777	Well, my digital camera just broke, but it looks like I really don't need to take a pic anyway, as cooliscool has the same case I do. How do you like the case?? I love it!!! __________________ Main Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale (4.0ghz at 445FSB)/ GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P P45 Mobo/ 4 GB G Skill PC2 8500 Ram / SAMSUNG 22X SATA DVD Burner / 500 Gig Seagate HD / 250 Gig Maxtor HD / Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB PCI-E / Realtek HD Audio 2nd PC: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester/ 2 GB Corsair PC3200 Ram / DVD-RW DL / Lite-On SOHW-832S DVD+-RW DL / 200 Gig Samsung HD / Nvidia GeForce 8400GS 256MB PCI-E / Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Bruce Almighty: How do you make someone love you without affecting free will? God: Good Question. If you find the answer to that, let me know.

March 4th, 2004	#174 (permalink)
Zeke_D 100% emulated freak Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Ari-fu ckin-zona Posts: 1,028	I want more performance, but without spending money I dont have Also, anyone know how to unlock the willy? __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ \| 2.0GB PC3200 \| Maxtor 120GB sATA\| GeForce 6800 GS 256MB Insignia IS-CM100751 19" \| XP Pro SP2 \| LG 16x Lightscribe DVD+/-RW \| Realtek Audio Last edited by Zeke_D; March 4th, 2004 at 17:45..

March 4th, 2004	#175 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,836	Zeke- I'm pretty sure all modern Intel CPUs have locked multipliers. If you want more performance you can overclock if you can, but you said you were unwilling. I wouldn't be that afraid to OC if I were you, it's not as dangerous as many may think, but it's your call. You could buy a P4 1.8a for $115 at newegg.com. Hushy: Yes, but my 3.3 suits me fine So it's not a problem, but the old willy Celes were indeed not the best. I just like NW's cuz they operate cooler and are easy as hell to overclock. __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

March 4th, 2004	#176 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,978	the Athlon XP's operate cool and are easy to overclock too, but you dissed them a lot in the past.... btw zeke_d, dont get a P4a. those suck just as badly as the Willy's, they are basically a celeron with their 400mhz FSB (even though they are northwoods) __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

March 5th, 2004	#177 (permalink)
Zeke_D 100% emulated freak Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Ari-fu ckin-zona Posts: 1,028	I would OC, but the multiplier is locked, and my board does not support any other method of OC'ing __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ \| 2.0GB PC3200 \| Maxtor 120GB sATA\| GeForce 6800 GS 256MB Insignia IS-CM100751 19" \| XP Pro SP2 \| LG 16x Lightscribe DVD+/-RW \| Realtek Audio

March 5th, 2004	#178 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,978	well if you cant change the FSB you are screwed..although most boards have jumpers to change them, thats not what you are looking for. and anyway, what do you need the extra performance for anyway? more Pcmarks? __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

March 5th, 2004	#179 (permalink)
cooliscool Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 6,828	You can software OC, all it takes is looking on your board and finding your PLL model. CPUFSB works awesome, I used it to OC my K6-2 when hardware OCing failed. __________________ Bottles' Glasses - Banjo Kazooie/Tooie model viewer and ripper

March 5th, 2004	#180 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,978	for some reason that seems really iffy to me, the only thing i trust is my mobo __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.