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[gatzke]

I recently obtained a game that consisted of a whole bunch of .lvl files etc.. How do I put it together so I can play it on PCSX2 ??

[skoreanime]

Originally Posted by gatzke

I recently obtained a game that consisted of a whole bunch of .lvl files etc.. How do I put it together so I can play it on PCSX2 ??

Try making an ISO from the game disc instead?

[gatzke]

The files were rar'd and there was an exe file in there as well, which seems kind of weird. Anyway, I won't be opening the exe..

[skoreanime]

Originally Posted by gatzke

The files were rar'd and there was an exe file in there as well, which seems kind of weird. Anyway, I won't be opening the exe..

Yeah, thought so. Pirating isn't supported here, so go ask for help somewhere else.

[Xtreme2damax]

Lol another n00b pwnt.

Another n00b, another day......Meh.

As said you will not receive any support here, you were doomed the minute you opened this thread.

You would of known exactly what you got and how to use it if you had just made the image yourself or dumped your own game.

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[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by Xtreme2damax

You would of known exactly what you got and how to use it if you had just made the image yourself or dumped your own game.

Or maybe he didn't want to piss around with ripping his own game and he just downloaded one he already owned. I've done that. It's equally legal and unless he expressly states he doesn't own the game then you cant accuse him of pirating it.

Jesus, I wish there were penalties for all the wannabe backseat modding around here.

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[jonc2006]

Originally Posted by Spyhop

Or maybe he didn't want to piss around with ripping his own game and he just downloaded one he already owned. I've done that. It's equally legal and unless he expressly states he doesn't own the game then you cant accuse him of pirating it.

Jesus, I wish there were penalties for all the wannabe backseat modding around here.

news flash dip****, downloading something you already own is just as illegal. want to know why? because you are downloading someone elses copy of the game, not your own.

and fortunately, there are penalties for people such as yourself who are obviously not familiar with the rules of this forum.

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[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by jonc2006

hey dip****, downloading something you already own is just as illegal. want to know why? because you are downloading someone elses copy of the game, not your own.

dip**** huh? Okay dip****. Intellectual property is the same regardless of source. If you already bought the game it's not stealing by grabbing a copy of someone else's. A copy from your disc would be bit-for-bit identical.

I download windows slipstream repacks all the time and I would have no qualms about calling microsoft right now and telling them so since I already own windows licensing. Same thing. So maybe people should stfu and give users the benefit of the doubt instead of just waiting for their opportunity to play moderator in front of everyone else. You just end up looking like jackasses.

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[jonc2006]

you really want me to make you look stupid dont you? fine, i could use another trophy.

lets say you buy a game, therefore, legally, you own it. ok, lets say that game gets damaged, destroyed, lost, eaten by puppies, sold into slavery, whatever. would it be legal for you to walk into the store you bought it from, or any place for that matter, and grab another copy of the game and walk out without paying for it? no. it would not be legal. what you are doing when you download someone elses copy is essentially the same thing. just because you own or owned it does not entitle you to free copies for life, it entitles you to ONE COPY, that being the one you PAID FOR. so dont try and preach to me because you have no idea what you are talking about.

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[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by jonc2006

would it be legal for you to walk into the store you bought it from, or any place for that matter, and grab another copy of the game and walk out without paying for it?

I stopped reading right here because your analogy is broken. Would THAT be legal? No. Because that would be, in effect, stealing a right to a SECOND copy, or license to own that software. That would be akin to damaging your windows CD, walking into a store, and stealing another windows box with a new key. Of course you can't do that. What you CAN do is download another copy. As long as you still have your license (or, in a game's case the original packaging and damaged disc), it's 100% legal. Microsoft will flat out tell you to do it if you didn't want to pay the S&H cost on a replacement disc.

You're confusing physical copy with rights of ownership.

Dude, you're talking with someone who worked with software licensing for 5 years. You're going to lose.

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[jonc2006]

anyone here is going to tell you the same thing i am so i am not going to waste anymore of my time with you. you are confusing the legality of creating backup copies with the legality of downloading backup copies, which are two completely different things. creating backups is legal in most places, however downloading someone elses backup is illegal in most places. when you download a game for whatever emulator you play it on, did you pay for the ownership rights to that copy? no you did not. so unless you live in a place that is an exception to this there is no way around this.

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[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by jonc2006

anyone here is going to tell you the same thing i am

That will make everyone here wrong.

so i am not going to waste anymore of my time with you.

Good, because you are also wrong.

you are confusing the legality of creating backup copies with the legality of downloading backup copies, which are two completely different things.

They're not different at all. If you like I'll call MS right now and record the conversation. I used to talk to their licensing reps all the time.

when you download a game for whatever emulator you play it on, did you pay for the ownership rights to that copy?

No, because I already have ownership rights for that game. Thats what you're getting confused on. If I want a backup of a game I've already purchased then I'm entitled to it.....REGARDLESS of the source of that backup...so long as it's identical software. Do you honestly think everyone emulating DC games is getting the necessary equipment to dump their games over ethernet or that everyone emulating snes is getting the cartridge adapter? lol, of course not. They're still equally entitled to downloaded copies so long as they own the original media.

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[viperver1]

That is correct. If you buy the game, you own it! full stop. If you take a backup that belongs to someone else, it is a crime. If you make a backup and sell them either on the net or around anyware, it's a crime. If you back it up but never give it to anyone, it's legal. So whatever people do with their copies, they got to keep them not distribute them.

[Thanakil]

Just a head up : What you pay is usually the key you use to register the game, not the physical game itself.

That's why websites sometime sell legal stand-alone keys, you can buy a key alone and download the game (from the publisher or anywhere else), it doesn't matter since you buy your license of the game with the key.

So buying a game, and the CD key to install that game, followed by downloading the game :
Legal, since you use YOUR own CD-Key of the game.

But if the game doesn't come with any CD-Key (sometime that happens... rarely, but still) and if they use another way to sell you the license of the game (if your license is restricted to the game/software copy that you bought itself) then it's different.

That's for PC game obviously, things are different with console games who don't use serial key and where the license belongs in the physical game itself.


But anyway, if the OP bought a game (and has his own CD-Key) and then download the game on the net... It's legal, as long as he use HIS CD-Key/Serial as this is his own license of the game.

But it can be argued that for a console the same thing is true.
After all, no-one remember how it was legal to download a game and play it on a emulator (mainly with snes game) if you already owned it?

(but I really doubt he did, I think he just pirated the game)

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[jonc2006]

we are talking about ps2 games here not games for windows or whatever, unless you all live in some alternate unvierse, i dont recall them needing cd keys to install or play.

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[Thanakil]

Originally Posted by jonc2006

we are talking about ps2 games here not games for windows or whatever, unless you all live in some alternate unvierse, i dont recall them needing cd keys to install or play.

I already said that it was different for PC/Consoles. Read the whole thing before skipping and pointing at ONE thing in my post.






But anyway, if the guy owned it, he'd be able to make a Iso out of it. If he lost the game, he lost his right to it (just the same as if he had broken it) and should buy another one. Too bad but just because I break a chair doesn't mean I should get a new one except if specifically explained that I can, and since I don't think PS2 games (except under guarantee, which doesnt cover breaking them ourselves) have this, the guy is either pirating it or think it would be faster to download it then to make a iso out of it, which isn't the case.

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[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by viperver1

That is correct. If you buy the game, you own it! full stop. If you take a backup that belongs to someone else, it is a crime.

No it isn't.

If you make a backup and sell them either on the net or around anyware, it's a crime.

Correct.

If you back it up but never give it to anyone, it's legal.

Not entirely accurate. If you gave a backup to someone who already owned the original media, it would be legal.

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[jonc2006]

Originally Posted by Thanakil

I already said that it was different for PC/Consoles. Read the whole thing before skipping and pointing at ONE thing in my post.






But anyway, if the guy owned it, he'd be able to make a Iso out of it. If he lost the game, he lost his right to it (just the same as if he had broken it) and should buy another one. Too bad but just because I break a chair doesn't mean I should get a new one except if specifically explained that I can, and since I don't think PS2 games (except under guarantee, which doesnt cover breaking them ourselves) have this, the guy is either pirating it or think it would be faster to download it then to make a iso out of it, which isn't the case.

i know you said that, i wasnt referring specifically to what you said there. this whole time this guy has been going on about microsoft this and windows that, which is super but unfortunately mircosoft and windows have nothing to do with what was going on here at the start of this thread.

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[viperver1]

That's what I ment. But still it is a crime to steal a backup that doesn't belong to the original person because that is what called "Privacy". But I know about this cause I see these things in the cinemas.

[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by jonc2006

this whole time this guy has been going on about microsoft this and windows that, which is super but unfortunately mircosoft and windows have nothing to do with what was going on here at the start of this thread.

I've been making references to both microsoft and retail games. I made mention of microsoft because it's a little easier to envision this simple concept with their licensing model.....the concept remains the same however.

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