Xbox vs. Xbox 360

**blueshogun96** · September 8th, 2007

Which do you think is/was a better console? This is one question I just have to ask. Playstation 2 is still going strong to this day even though Playstation 3 is available but it seems like ever since Xbox 360 came out, Xbox1 was like forcefully phased out not even a year after the release of the 360, and I can't say anything about the jump from the GameCube to the Wii. I personally thinki Xbox1 was a better console with better games and overall a more reliable system. So far, many of the Xbox 360 games I've played were totally uninteresting and the worst games I've ever played were on 360, but I'm still waiting to see what else is coming out though. Examples:

Kameo - Nice graphics, but not too interesting.
Quake4 - Very dry game...
Armored Core 4 - Can't get used to the controls, wasn't very exciting.
Moster Madness - Awful. One of the worst games I've ever played (sorry to say it too).
List goes on...

It even breaks way too much for me to recommend it to anyone. My Xbox1s in general don't have these random breakdown problems and I liked most Xbox1 games. I personally like the Xbox1 controller better than the 360's because it's too small and doesn't fit my hands comforably. The only thing about 360 that's good is the graphics, but they still aren't exactly "impressive" to me either. Overall the 360 has been a complete dissapointment for me.

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Brightside · September 8th, 2007

to tell you the truth, the 360's library is alot better, got blue dragon today ( 3 DISCS!!!! :O ) and well i can say for certain the original xbox was lackluster..... although i do use it everyday thanks to xbmc

as for reliability the original xbox was a tank, if you didn't get one of the crap dvd drives, DDE's ftl

**Yeloazndevil** · September 8th, 2007

I preferred xbox cuz you can do more on it like XBMC/homebrew and with 360 M$ is more anal. but the 360 has a better lineup then the original.

**blueshogun96** · September 8th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Yeloazndevil

I preferred xbox cuz you can do more on it like XBMC/homebrew and with 360 M$ is more anal. but the 360 has a better lineup then the original.

Actually you can do [non-XNA] homebrew on the 360, but it only works on two kernel revisions and it's a pain in the ass to do

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**Yeloazndevil** · September 8th, 2007

I want to be able to do what I want to a console. the 360 doesn't seem like it will so I will never own one

**blueshogun96** · September 8th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Yeloazndevil

I want to be able to do what I want to a console. the 360 doesn't seem like it will so I will never own one

Good choice, I own a 360, but I'm selling not because I don't like it, but I need the money. There are a few 360 games I actually want to try before I completely give up on it besides Halo 3 After all, homebrew and Cxbx is what got me initially interested in the great Xbox1

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makotech222 · September 8th, 2007

um 360. hhigh resolution, xbox looks like crap on inside and out! better wireless remotes. armored core 4 was fun

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**blueshogun96** · September 8th, 2007

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Originally Posted by makotech222

um 360. hhigh resolution, xbox looks like crap on inside and out! better wireless remotes. armored core 4 was fun

Inside? How so? If you're talking about hardware wise, then Xbox1 would definetly win because 360's hardware design and cooling system suck ass. 360's internal hardware is good, but poorly designed.

EDIT: Xbox1 can do high def resolutions too such as 480p and 1080i etc.

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makotech222 · September 8th, 2007

isnt that with like one of those dscaler things or whatever? xbox is ugly on outside. and i think a 360 has more power than a xbox. true, cooling does sux but i hear newer ones have heatsinks now.

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**blueshogun96** · September 8th, 2007

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Originally Posted by makotech222

isnt that with like one of those dscaler things or whatever? xbox is ugly on outside. and i think a 360 has more power than a xbox. true, cooling does sux but i hear newer ones have heatsinks now.

Well yeah, the 360 has more power than Xbox1. They all have heat sinks, but they aren't that efficient (especially the GPU heatsink). It's not just the heatsinks that make the hardware design poor, but the x-clamps are so tight, they can warp the board. I've taken one apart to fix and reassembled it and I noticed many ways the layout could be improved.

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**Cid Highwind** · September 8th, 2007

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EDIT: Xbox1 can do high def resolutions too such as 480p and 1080i etc.

Dreamcast can do 480p as well, that's not HD though, but ED

In the end you're just playing upscaled games, the only thing "HD" about it is the resolution but you're still playing with low res textures and models. The only benefit would be that your screen wouldn't have to stretch and interpolate the image, and there might be less aliasing.

As for me, the 360 attracts me more. It's got more tempting and original games. Xbox 1 was as generic as it could be, it had nothing to offer over my Dreamcast and PC.

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runawayprisoner · September 9th, 2007

One vote for the 360 as well. XBox and its emulators were nice... but... ehm... *cough* If I'd wanted to play emulators, I'd use my computers.

The 360, all in all, has only one flaw: It is definitely not designed for hardcore gaming... that goes on for more than 32 hours. I'd think that it'd die after 16 hours of continuous gaming or so... or at least mine did. Something was literally being cooked up inside the machine the entire time I was playing with it. :S

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Paratech · September 9th, 2007

I'm not really impressed with the 360 yet, but that could change over time.
I wasn't initially impressed with the XBOX, but I came to like it later on, and now I own one.
I just haven't seen 'next gen' games I want yet, other than Oblivion. I'm not in a hurry for it either as I still have to play through Morrowind!

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BigIg · September 9th, 2007

I loved my Xbox dearly, but my vote goes for 360, it has a better lineup IMO. The hardware failures are worrying, but mine has been going strong since I got it over a year ago.

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Kazuya Mishima · September 9th, 2007

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Originally Posted by makotech222

isnt that with like one of those dscaler things or whatever? xbox is ugly on outside. and i think a 360 has more power than a xbox. true, cooling does sux but i hear newer ones have heatsinks now.

Nope. Some games had the option of 720 output and most of them could output at 480p. They still used low polygon models and textures but the output resolution was bigger. Is like playing the original Tomb Raider in 800x600: the same game but just higher resolution.

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**blueshogun96** · September 10th, 2007

I never cared about running emulators on Xbox1, it was never important to me.

But one thing I do like about 360 is that the HDDs are detachable, which was good design, but they ****ed up with the mem cards. Allowing each player to have their own memory cards (total of 8 per console w/ 4 players) was a great idea. Now 4 players are limited to 2, not exactly an improvement. I don't exactly hate 360, but it can't replace my Xbox1 mainly because the emulator's compatibility is still too low and it won't play my favourite game(s).

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Coolsvilleman · September 11th, 2007

The 360 is fairly good. Though it has some critical flaws such as heat issues and the mobo dieing. Probably would also be nice if it had proper xbox1 support (a.k.a not the cheap emulator they are using) but overall its still better. I dont understand why they didn't give xbox1 games higher resolutions. If you are writing an emulator for the xbox then the least they could do was give the games some resolutions to match. For example they could have easily added in HD res for Halo 1 and probably even got dashboard support in as well.

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**Hard core Rikki** · September 11th, 2007

360's tentacular interactions with XP/MCE/Vista is more than I can live with. XboX is sufficiently satisfying (the soft library isnt bad, like DOA).
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DB7 · September 11th, 2007

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One vote for the 360 as well. XBox and its emulators were nice... but... ehm... *cough* If I'd wanted to play emulators, I'd use my computers.

The 360, all in all, has only one flaw: It is definitely not designed for hardcore gaming... that goes on for more than 32 hours. I'd think that it'd die after 16 hours of continuous gaming or so... or at least mine did. Something was literally being cooked up inside the machine the entire time I was playing with it. :S

SIXTEEN HOURS! How on Earth could anyone play a game for that length of time. When gaming on my consoles or my PC, I always make sure to take a break after an hour or two, so I can rest my eyes and my hands (so I don't get RSI).

Quite frankly if you are playing a game for 16 hours in a row it should break down so you can get some human interaction, even if it is only with the shop assistant demanding a replacement.

**CpU MasteR** · September 11th, 2007

I dont see a "they both suck" option..

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blueshogun96 Emu author Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Unidentified Posts: 2,518	Xbox vs. Xbox 360 Which do you think is/was a better console? This is one question I just have to ask. Playstation 2 is still going strong to this day even though Playstation 3 is available but it seems like ever since Xbox 360 came out, Xbox1 was like forcefully phased out not even a year after the release of the 360, and I can't say anything about the jump from the GameCube to the Wii. I personally thinki Xbox1 was a better console with better games and overall a more reliable system. So far, many of the Xbox 360 games I've played were totally uninteresting and the worst games I've ever played were on 360, but I'm still waiting to see what else is coming out though. Examples: Kameo - Nice graphics, but not too interesting. Quake4 - Very dry game... Armored Core 4 - Can't get used to the controls, wasn't very exciting. Moster Madness - Awful. One of the worst games I've ever played (sorry to say it too). List goes on... It even breaks way too much for me to recommend it to anyone. My Xbox1s in general don't have these random breakdown problems and I liked most Xbox1 games. I personally like the Xbox1 controller better than the 360's because it's too small and doesn't fit my hands comforably. The only thing about 360 that's good is the graphics, but they still aren't exactly "impressive" to me either. Overall the 360 has been a complete dissapointment for me. __________________ [Sagat] Windows XP x64 Pro \| AMD Athlon 3000+ (~2.0GHz) \| NVIDIA GeForce 6600 PCI-E \| Realtek AC97 Audio \| 512MB Ram \| NVIDIA NForce 4-4X chipset \| Seagate HDD 160GB \| LG 8614 DVD-ROM \| HP DVD 1040d CD/DVD -/+ RW w/ LightScribe [Raylene] HP dv2000 \| Windows Vista Home Premium \| Intel Core2 Duo @2.2GHz \| NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 128Mb (Dedicated) + 1264Mb (Shared) \| 3GB Ram \| 220GB HDD GeneralEmu - December 27, 2005 and beyond! Shogun3D Interactive (I try to update it every day now) Shogun's Cxbx Dev Blog

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September 8th, 2007	#2 (permalink)
Brightside Koei Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 111	to tell you the truth, the 360's library is alot better, got blue dragon today ( 3 DISCS!!!! :O ) and well i can say for certain the original xbox was lackluster..... although i do use it everyday thanks to xbmc as for reliability the original xbox was a tank, if you didn't get one of the crap dvd drives, DDE's ftl

September 8th, 2007	#3 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil Tsundere-chan Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,386	I preferred xbox cuz you can do more on it like XBMC/homebrew and with 360 M$ is more anal. but the 360 has a better lineup then the original.

September 8th, 2007	#5 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil Tsundere-chan Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,386	I want to be able to do what I want to a console. the 360 doesn't seem like it will so I will never own one

September 9th, 2007	#12 (permalink)
runawayprisoner Mobile Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 6,209	One vote for the 360 as well. XBox and its emulators were nice... but... ehm... cough If I'd wanted to play emulators, I'd use my computers. The 360, all in all, has only one flaw: It is definitely not designed for hardcore gaming... that goes on for more than 32 hours. I'd think that it'd die after 16 hours of continuous gaming or so... or at least mine did. Something was literally being cooked up inside the machine the entire time I was playing with it. :S __________________ cChip interpreter WIP - current status: Release Candidate LRx Filter RC - current performance rating: 9/10

September 9th, 2007	#13 (permalink)
Paratech Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Franklin, Pa Posts: 4,136	I'm not really impressed with the 360 yet, but that could change over time. I wasn't initially impressed with the XBOX, but I came to like it later on, and now I own one. I just haven't seen 'next gen' games I want yet, other than Oblivion. I'm not in a hurry for it either as I still have to play through Morrowind! __________________ -Dreams of getting a new 360 XBOX in 201x. -Current consoles: Playstation 2 and Wii, also has DS/GBA and a PSP 3000 -PC: AMD 5000 2.6 Dual Core, 2GB Ram, 8600 GeForce GT video card, SB Live!, Win XP SP3

September 9th, 2007	#14 (permalink)
BigIg I tell you what. Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 2,273	I loved my Xbox dearly, but my vote goes for 360, it has a better lineup IMO. The hardware failures are worrying, but mine has been going strong since I got it over a year ago. __________________ Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand

September 10th, 2007	#16 (permalink)
blueshogun96 Emu author Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Unidentified Posts: 2,518	I never cared about running emulators on Xbox1, it was never important to me. But one thing I do like about 360 is that the HDDs are detachable, which was good design, but they ****ed up with the mem cards. Allowing each player to have their own memory cards (total of 8 per console w/ 4 players) was a great idea. Now 4 players are limited to 2, not exactly an improvement. I don't exactly hate 360, but it can't replace my Xbox1 mainly because the emulator's compatibility is still too low and it won't play my favourite game(s). __________________ [Sagat] Windows XP x64 Pro \| AMD Athlon 3000+ (~2.0GHz) \| NVIDIA GeForce 6600 PCI-E \| Realtek AC97 Audio \| 512MB Ram \| NVIDIA NForce 4-4X chipset \| Seagate HDD 160GB \| LG 8614 DVD-ROM \| HP DVD 1040d CD/DVD -/+ RW w/ LightScribe [Raylene] HP dv2000 \| Windows Vista Home Premium \| Intel Core2 Duo @2.2GHz \| NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 128Mb (Dedicated) + 1264Mb (Shared) \| 3GB Ram \| 220GB HDD GeneralEmu - December 27, 2005 and beyond! Shogun3D Interactive (I try to update it every day now) Shogun's Cxbx Dev Blog

September 11th, 2007	#17 (permalink)
Coolsvilleman Emulation to the max! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,560	The 360 is fairly good. Though it has some critical flaws such as heat issues and the mobo dieing. Probably would also be nice if it had proper xbox1 support (a.k.a not the cheap emulator they are using) but overall its still better. I dont understand why they didn't give xbox1 games higher resolutions. If you are writing an emulator for the xbox then the least they could do was give the games some resolutions to match. For example they could have easily added in HD res for Halo 1 and probably even got dashboard support in as well. __________________ Q6600 Core 2 Quad \|\| Soundblaster X-Fi Extreme HD \|\| e-VGA 8800GTX \|\| 4096mb 4-4-4-12-2T Dual-Channel RAM \|\| MSI P6N Diamond \|\| 2x 320GB Hardrive \|\| 5.1 Speakers \|\| Remote control \|\| 8x USB 2.0 \|\| DVD/CD ±RW Drive \|\| 1x IEEE1394 www.coolsvilleman.homedns.org Normally down. E-mail me for a DVD @ coolsvilleman@gmail.com

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Hard core Rikki And the science gets done Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Pompei Posts: 7,220	360's tentacular interactions with XP/MCE/Vista is more than I can live with. XboX is sufficiently satisfying (the soft library isnt bad, like DOA). No 360 here before I finally drop Windows forever !! __________________ deviantART \| Blog \| Webcomics \| VBA-M \| PCSX2 \| @ES \| Shendo \| GeneralEmu \| XTemu Get the NGemu toolbar http://ngemu.ourtoolbar.com

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CpU MasteR omfg h4x0r Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Yuma Arizona, USA Posts: 556	I dont see a "they both suck" option..