Bioshock: letting your household members play it is considered freeloading, says 2K

**Hard core Rikki** · September 6th, 2007

According to the 2K folks, your family should buy additional copies of Bioshock if they wan to play it. EVEN if you have only one computer !!!
Basically, when you buy Bioshock you are the only one allowed to play it since your family would be freeloading if you let them play your copy of it.

Full text here, complaining thread readable here

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Freeloading? What about this?

- If someone watches one of your DVDs in your salon while you're cooking/working, does that constitute freeloading ?
- Should your cousins be arrested for illegally reading your Harry Potter books? Are magazines legal ?
- Since the 90's, isnt a HOUSEHOLD licence purchased actually, with the person putting its name just acting as the buyer and single point of contact? Why should your siblings buy another copy, when all of you probably play on the same computer?

Seriously, when did perpetual ownership turn into such cr*p? No one should be irreasonable enough to rush buying a controversially DRMed game. Pretty screenshots do not reveal how much people are getting screwed.

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**jonc2006** · September 6th, 2007

2k is out of their ****ing minds. doesnt secuROM limit the installations to 2 (or 5, not that it matters)? if they want you to have a copy of bioshock installed for every individual family member, wouldnt that be capped by the install limit? im sorry but that is just retarded. if they lose customers over this and all of its other anti-piracy crap its going to be no surprise to me. they treat legitamet players like pirates and the only way for them not to is to prove it to them with some picture of the game and yourself. its nuts. these anti-piracy tactics are doing the opposite of what they are made to do, piracy is actually increasing with these methods in place. i like bioshock, and i dont think anyone is complaining about the game itself, but their legal bs that they throw out with it is criminal in my opinion. i paid for the game, not to get ****ed in the ass. i realize these developers have the right to protect their work but this is a textbook definition of overkill.half life 2 and steam is another one. i dont like resorting to actual piracy, i try and avoid it at all costs, but i ended up using a crack because i spent money on a brand new copy of HL2 and i still couldnt get steam to activate it. and i wont even consider buying another copy and trying it again. they are going to see a negitive impact on sales if they keep this stuff up, no matter how good the game is.

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**CKemu** · September 6th, 2007

Duh, when I listen to music on my Stereo, if people hear it - thats piracy!! Damn those molecules of air smuggling my music to other peoples ears!

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**Cid Highwind** · September 6th, 2007

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Originally Posted by CKemu

Duh, when I listen to music on my Stereo, if people hear it - thats piracy!! Damn those molecules of air smuggling my music to other peoples ears!

They should ban air just the way they are trying to ban P2P!

On a more serious note, these corporate bastards should actually get to know the law a bit better. Here I buy a game, and I'm entitled to do with my copy whatever I want, provided it isn't forbidden by my national laws.

Our laws allow me to lend my copy to friends and family or even complete strangers, because I do not make a duplicate copy of it. I temporary pass on my rights to play the game to another person, perfectly legit.

To those who direct me to their EULA I have only to say that those aren't valid contracts. If they want to force me to sign a contract on how to use an item, they have to do so before I purchase it. If I buy it without any apparent and visible limitations that I'm notified of before I paid for it then it means I get the item as is, making any further restriction illegal, any contract telling me what to do or otherwise needing to return the item can simply be ignored.

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**jonc2006** · September 6th, 2007

im not advocating piracy here but i really hope the pirate community sticks it to them on this one. what they are doing to their paying customers should be illegal.

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**Cid Highwind** · September 6th, 2007

Don't worry, they took care of it already, and I hope it will finally reach these corporate numbskulls that they're pissing off customers.

And Jonc, what they are doing to their customers in fact IS illegal. I can see people winning lawsuits against 2k if some would have the funds to set one up. EULA's are so worthless, they're not even worth for me to use as TP for my bungholio. Meanwhile inside of the package is something that I did not expect to be in there, thus legally speaking I've been cheated.

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**Xtreme2damax** · September 6th, 2007

"The Customer is Always Right", I seem to remember that policy such long ago now completely thrown out of the window due to Corporate greed sitting as a vague voice in the back of my head.

Yeah, we can speak with our spending dollars and not buy this game but the sad truth is they'll blame it on piracy for such low sales rather than admitting they were at fault for pissing customers off.

So much for the ****ty Securom/Activation crap they implemented, only took pirates only 6 days to 1 1/2 weeks to successfully crack this BS scheme and they are now playing the game worry free while the honest and legit users are the ones suffering.

When will the corporate ****heads finally see this crap like this doesn't do jack to prevent or thwart piracy and only encourages it as well as faster developments of cracks?

How come PC users have to deal with bullcrap Copy Protection Schemes While console users don't, can copy, distribute and play games as they please?

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**Betamax** · September 7th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Xtreme2damax

How come PC users have to deal with bullcrap Copy Protection Schemes While console users don't, can copy, distribute and play games as they please?

... probably 'cos console manufacturers don't include cd burners as standard.

Remember folks, corporate execs tend to make a living out by plotting and scheming, it's not too surprising that their option of mankind is that if everyone can do something then everyone will.

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makotech222 · September 7th, 2007

oh, the securom version limits to 5 installs? my cracked one lets me do infinite... hahaha long live pirates.

btw thats most rediculous thing ive ever heard from a game company

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I like this post:

"That's really unbelievable...

Even Microsoft isn't that underhanded, multiple people can use Windows on the same machine "

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Condor San · September 7th, 2007

2K: "Will you kindly drop the freeloading on your friends?"

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**Xtreme2damax** · September 7th, 2007

Don't bother replying in that thread at 2k forums on Securom, it seems it's on the 2k Moderators/Admins/Staffs ignore list so they are not able to see it.

I was reading through the thread and saw that members came up with that conclusion since someone posted a link to the crack, another member admitted to pirating the game and they were not warned or banned for it. Also to mention not a single member of the staff at 2k forums has replied in it or replied after a certain extent.

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Mako Eyes · September 7th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

They should ban air just the way they are trying to ban P2P!
To those who direct me to their EULA I have only to say that those aren't valid contracts. If they want to force me to sign a contract on how to use an item, they have to do so before I purchase it. If I buy it without any apparent and visible limitations that I'm notified of before I paid for it then it means I get the item as is, making any further restriction illegal, any contract telling me what to do or otherwise needing to return the item can simply be ignored.

From what I hear, this limitation Rikki is talking about actually contradicts what it says in the EULA. Of course, don't take my word for it, I haven't really read the EULA.

Regardless, it's this kind of ridiculous copy-protection and DRM that turned me completely off from the PC version.

**Xtreme2damax** · September 7th, 2007

It's sad and retarded that they felt the need to add this crap to the demo as well seeing as how the demo is able to be freely redistributed through the web and Valve's Steam Service.

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**Cid Highwind** · September 7th, 2007

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Originally Posted by Mako Eyes

From what I hear, this limitation Rikki is talking about actually contradicts what it says in the EULA. Of course, don't take my word for it, I haven't really read the EULA.

Regardless, it's this kind of ridiculous copy-protection and DRM that turned me completely off from the PC version.

True, Bioshock's EULA is a contradiction by itself, but I wasn't speaking about Bioshock in particular, but games in general as well

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**Hard core Rikki** · September 15th, 2007

No wonder people turn to console-based gaming. No freakin contracts to sign and rights to surrender

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Condor San · September 15th, 2007

Good point xD

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ChankastRules · September 15th, 2007

hahahaha just wait, There'll be a question when you start up a console game and you have to click I agree! Just wait :P

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What happen to this world?

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Hard core Rikki And the science gets done Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Pompei Posts: 7,219	Bioshock: letting your household members play it is considered freeloading, says 2K According to the 2K folks, your family should buy additional copies of Bioshock if they wan to play it. EVEN if you have only one computer !!! Basically, when you buy Bioshock you are the only one allowed to play it since your family would be freeloading if you let them play your copy of it. Full text here, complaining thread readable here Hell be with them greedy vampires, daring to speak with smooth fuzzy words !!! Freeloading? What about this? - If someone watches one of your DVDs in your salon while you're cooking/working, does that constitute freeloading ? - Should your cousins be arrested for illegally reading your Harry Potter books? Are magazines legal ? - Since the 90's, isnt a HOUSEHOLD licence purchased actually, with the person putting its name just acting as the buyer and single point of contact? Why should your siblings buy another copy, when all of you probably play on the same computer? Seriously, when did perpetual ownership turn into such cr*p? No one should be irreasonable enough to rush buying a controversially DRMed game. Pretty screenshots do not reveal how much people are getting screwed. __________________ deviantART \| Blog \| Webcomics \| VBA-M \| PCSX2 \| @ES \| Shendo \| GeneralEmu \| XTemu Get the NGemu toolbar http://ngemu.ourtoolbar.com

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jonc2006 Mod of Douchebagness™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA MD. Posts: 8,793	2k is out of their **ing minds. doesnt secuROM limit the installations to 2 (or 5, not that it matters)? if they want you to have a copy of bioshock installed for every individual family member, wouldnt that be capped by the install limit? im sorry but that is just retarded. if they lose customers over this and all of its other anti-piracy crap its going to be no surprise to me. they treat legitamet players like pirates and the only way for them not to is to prove it to them with some picture of the game and yourself. its nuts. these anti-piracy tactics are doing the opposite of what they are made to do, piracy is actually increasing with these methods in place. i like bioshock, and i dont think anyone is complaining about the game itself, but their legal bs that they throw out with it is criminal in my opinion. i paid for the game, not to get *ed in the ass. i realize these developers have the right to protect their work but this is a textbook definition of overkill.half life 2 and steam is another one. i dont like resorting to actual piracy, i try and avoid it at all costs, but i ended up using a crack because i spent money on a brand new copy of HL2 and i still couldnt get steam to activate it. and i wont even consider buying another copy and trying it again. they are going to see a negitive impact on sales if they keep this stuff up, no matter how good the game is. __________________ Antec 900/Antec Truepower Quattro 1000W/eVGA 780i SLI/Windows XP Media SP2 & Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit SP1/Intel Core 2 Duo E8400@4.0GHz/Dual eVGA e-Geforce GTX280 1GB DDR3 SLI Enabled/Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer/Corsiar XMS2 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2/Dual WD Caviar SE16 500GB 7200RPM HDDs The Official jonc2006™ Emotion Chart. Courtesy of PCXL-Fan after he tried to steal my identity on Steam because I am so awesome. Official jonc2006™ Fan Club Official jonc2006™ Trophy Collection Last edited by jonc2006; September 6th, 2007 at 10:43..*

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Cid Highwind Human Metal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holland / Hungary Posts: 13,548	Don't worry, they took care of it already, and I hope it will finally reach these corporate numbskulls that they're pissing off customers. And Jonc, what they are doing to their customers in fact IS illegal. I can see people winning lawsuits against 2k if some would have the funds to set one up. EULA's are so worthless, they're not even worth for me to use as TP for my bungholio. Meanwhile inside of the package is something that I did not expect to be in there, thus legally speaking I've been cheated. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz GPU: Sapphire ATi HD4870 / 1024MB / Core: 801 / Mem: 1000 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1) SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music RAM: 2GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, 32MB PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Geometry Wars: 198.400 Lumines: 999.999 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

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Xtreme2damax T-5000 Modenator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere, even in your couch cushions.. Posts: 3,139	"The Customer is Always Right", I seem to remember that policy such long ago now completely thrown out of the window due to Corporate greed sitting as a vague voice in the back of my head. Yeah, we can speak with our spending dollars and not buy this game but the sad truth is they'll blame it on piracy for such low sales rather than admitting they were at fault for pissing customers off. So much for the **ty Securom/Activation crap they implemented, only took pirates only 6 days to 1 1/2 weeks to successfully crack this BS scheme and they are now playing the game worry free while the honest and legit users are the ones suffering. When will the corporate **heads finally see this crap like this doesn't do jack to prevent or thwart piracy and only encourages it as well as faster developments of cracks? How come PC users have to deal with bullcrap Copy Protection Schemes While console users don't, can copy, distribute and play games as they please? __________________ \| Xtemulation Forums \| Dolphin SVN Builds \| \| XTemulation Wiki \| PCSX2 SVN Builds \| Download the free Xtemulation Toolbar If you like Xtemulation, please Digg Us

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Condor San Gaming Overlord o(^.^)-o Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Braggin's Lil Corner Posts: 416	2K: "Will you kindly drop the freeloading on your friends?" __________________ Last edited by Condor San; September 7th, 2007 at 11:15..

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Xtreme2damax T-5000 Modenator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere, even in your couch cushions.. Posts: 3,139	Don't bother replying in that thread at 2k forums on Securom, it seems it's on the 2k Moderators/Admins/Staffs ignore list so they are not able to see it. I was reading through the thread and saw that members came up with that conclusion since someone posted a link to the crack, another member admitted to pirating the game and they were not warned or banned for it. Also to mention not a single member of the staff at 2k forums has replied in it or replied after a certain extent. __________________ \| Xtemulation Forums \| Dolphin SVN Builds \| \| XTemulation Wiki \| PCSX2 SVN Builds \| Download the free Xtemulation Toolbar If you like Xtemulation, please Digg Us

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Xtreme2damax T-5000 Modenator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Here, there, everywhere, even in your couch cushions.. Posts: 3,139	It's sad and retarded that they felt the need to add this crap to the demo as well seeing as how the demo is able to be freely redistributed through the web and Valve's Steam Service. __________________ \| Xtemulation Forums \| Dolphin SVN Builds \| \| XTemulation Wiki \| PCSX2 SVN Builds \| Download the free Xtemulation Toolbar If you like Xtemulation, please Digg Us

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