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Old August 20th, 2007   #1 (permalink)
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PS2 is now a Wii Wannabe

sony's attempt of imitating the Wii


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Old August 20th, 2007   #2 (permalink)
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Now that's just halarious.

Friend 1: "So you got a Wii?"
Friend 2: "Yeah I got Wii. Motion sensoring and stuff is fun."
Friend 1: "I just payed $100 less to buy the same thing."
Friend 2: "Yeah but you can only play like 6 games."
Friend 1: ".........."
Friend 1: This sucks....
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What's even more hilarious is that people buy a whole new console for the new gameplay style of the Wii, when in fact, Nintendo could have made it a new controller for the Gamecube and many people wouldn't have had to buy a new console. Given that the Wii is almost identical to the Gamecube (just has higher clock speeds), Nintendo decided to make a new console around the controller so people would have to spend another $250 for another console that an existing one had the ability to do to begin with. If you ask me, that's an even bigger joke.
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Well said, those guy are smart businessman knowing so many can be fooled =]
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What's even more hilarious is that people buy a whole new console for the new gameplay style of the Wii, when in fact, Nintendo could have made it a new controller for the Gamecube and many people wouldn't have had to buy a new console. Given that the Wii is almost identical to the Gamecube (just has higher clock speeds), Nintendo decided to make a new console around the controller so people would have to spend another $250 for another console that an existing one had the ability to do to begin with. If you ask me, that's an even bigger joke.
Yeah but Gamecube wasn't attractive. It had very poor 3rd party support, which killed the sales for it. And the $100 for the system didn't give them that much money either. Atleast they didn't call it Dolphin.

The Wii however, has some sort of online, It has better 3rd party support. It's designed for the Motion sensor. And its a "New way" to play video games. The Wii LOOKS different than the Gamecube, which is enough to sell the console.
I'd rather buy a Wii over a gamecube anyday. The gamecube IS a huge dissapointment for Nintendo.

And creating a new system isn't a joke its smart marketing. The only problem Nintendo screwed up on was the fact that there arn't many Wii's availible.

It's almost a joke that sony is trying to add a few more months onto the PS2's lifespan with a rip-off of a free Wii Game.
PS2 is a very powerfull game system. And what made it powerfull was the fact that it has well and beyond over 100 games avalible for it.

Gamecube does not. Nintendo saw this and made a good move by creating the Wii.
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I beat you too it.
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Don't forget the Wii's Virtual Console , another key feature of the Nintendo Wii.
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Now i want one for PC-wii controller : ( wahhh! [not sure what good use it would be] lol
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Now i want one for PC-wii controller : ( wahhh! [not sure what good use it would be] lol
You can all ready use it on your PC (Use it as a steering wheel, program it for certain actions to equal a certain button (I myself have played through the first few stages of Half Life 2 with my Wii Mote).
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"IN2Games announced a new wireless motion sensing controller for PS2 called the Freedom, along with 6 family-friendly game titles at launch in Q4 2007, each for £29.99:"

It's not Sony's attempt at making a Wiimote like gimmick but IN2Games. Jeez, learn to read.
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"IN2Games announced a new wireless motion sensing controller for PS2 called the Freedom, along with 6 family-friendly game titles at launch in Q4 2007, each for £29.99:"

It's not Sony's attempt at making a Wiimote like gimmick but IN2Games. Jeez, learn to read.
IN2Games announced a new wireless motion sensing controller for PS2 called the Freedom

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now whats the difference? different kinds of controllers? arent they all wireless and motion sensing? Isnt the Freedom controllers for Sony's PS2?

doesnt those controllers/games offer the same experience as Wii sports?
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IN2Games announced a new wireless motion sensing controller for PS2 called the Freedom

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now whats the difference? different kinds of controllers? arent they all wireless and motion sensing? Isnt the Freedom controllers for Sony's PS2?

doesnt those controllers offer the same experience as Wii sports?
Yes, they offer the same thing yadayadayada. But here is what you said in your original post.

"sony's attempt of imitating the Wii"

Sony has nothing to do with this, except that the Wiimote type of controller is on their console. The controller is 3rd party. It's like people are just looking for excuse to say "Omg sony copied this and this blablabla".
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Calling it Sony's attempt is typical "Ninty" (barf!) fanboy reaction.

Indeed, it's third party. Smart move though, and in fact I'm surprised it took that long.
I'm curious as to how this will unfold.

I kinda agree with Plot, even if the Cube wasn't popular. You can just slap any controller on any console. Trying to market a console around the controller was a smart move though from Nintendo, which even worked well.

Cid regularly mentions Samba de Amigo for DC for example... which are just 2 games, but clear proof that the concept Nintendo launched is nothing new, not even has anything to do with next-gen. They just turned the logic around.
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NGC was a pretty big flop. IMO, it was a smart move for Nintendo to bring out the motion controller with the Wii and not have it as an optional device for NGC. It'd be just patching a beaten up, rusted through old car.
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Sure it was smart, much better way of marketing it then just launching it as a pheripheral for an old console.
Technically though, it wouldn't have been much different if it'd been a Gamecube controller... other than that it would probably have received much less interest.

But now motion sensing controllers are hot, and IN2Games spots a chance. I'm curious if it will become successful. Sure, the games don't look very spectacular, but perhaps it matters more if they work.

One genuine difference here is that IN2Games use 6 different controllers... and the price seems too high.
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NGC was a pretty big flop. IMO, it was a smart move for Nintendo to bring out the motion controller with the Wii and not have it as an optional device for NGC. It'd be just patching a beaten up, rusted through old car.
yeah the NGC was a big flop(similar to the PS3 now which i believe it will get better later) anyways i think the use of an old hardware in the Wii is a fair move.... Why? will you ask..

if the Big N(agree with you samor "ninty" isn´t good at all) use a better hardware and probably a better price than the 360... the results are the end of Microsoft and Sony because we have to admit in comparation to the Sony old PSX gamepad style with motion sensing and the 360 gamepad(i think is great too) the Wiimote is just the best one...

about games..... if the Wii had a better hardware almost every game were now available for the Wii aswell.

i think developers need to get new ideas that´s all...

in conclution i think this new device for the PS2 is great.......taking in mind the PS2 is a "Holly" machine for me
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I don't think the NGC was a big flop. It has always been profitable for Nintendo, even from the start. It was home to one of the best games ever made according to many, and technically it was arguably the best system of last generation. The lack of third party support didn't do it well concerning their marketshare, but it did strengthened their image as having solid party console, with an overall high ratio of quality games:gaming fodder. Keep in mind that if they'd had better third party support, the only extra games you'd see where simple and shoddy PS2 ports, rather than exclusives or games developed for the Cube as the main console. The PS2 usually was the leading platform.

Also, I think the Gamecube would've suffered the same fate as the Dreamcast for the same reasons if it didn't have the superior financial support. It suffered from a kiddy image, and there was basically no place for it in the market for "mature gamers" because that spot was already shared between Sony and Microsoft.

Oh, and as for the screenshots of the Golf part of this game: With such aliasing, the grass is most likely going to resemble the water at my place, which is permanently covered by duckweed.
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What's even more hilarious is that people buy a whole new console for the new gameplay style of the Wii, when in fact, Nintendo could have made it a new controller for the Gamecube and many people wouldn't have had to buy a new console. Given that the Wii is almost identical to the Gamecube (just has higher clock speeds), Nintendo decided to make a new console around the controller so people would have to spend another $250 for another console that an existing one had the ability to do to begin with. If you ask me, that's an even bigger joke.
But you act like thats the only thing that would be added. As I saw my Wii has wireless ports for the remote it has wifi it has slots for SDs. It supports the bigger discs. I know nothing a big deal but its still more advanced. Maybe not in the power aspect.
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But you act like thats the only thing that would be added. As I saw my Wii has wireless ports for the remote it has wifi it has slots for SDs. It supports the bigger discs. I know nothing a big deal but its still more advanced. Maybe not in the power aspect.
. The 'Wireless Ports' for the wii-motes are just bluetooth, nothing overtly costly and could easily be done in the controller port
. You can bu GC to SD adapters from many places online
. The gamecube supported full sized DVD's (both is size and storage) many people with modded GC's took there cases off there GC for just this reason

Im very Pro-Wii (I own one and actively get games for it), however the strongest part of the Wii is its Third Party Backing and they were first to cash in on wirless, the other things dont really mean much, so why buy one? There just plain fun.
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