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[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

re-read my post

i edited it

sure, give me 30 mins

[TheCloudOfSmoke]

My laptop zapped out on me yesterday while playing and chatting on TF2 with bobrocks95, cottonvibes and Chrono Archangel. I had to buy a new one today, which is why I haven't been on since yesterday afternoon. I'm getting sick and tired of my laptops zapping out on me because of overheating. Every laptop that I have had has done that to me. The **** is annoying. I love laptops, which is why I keep getting them. But having to buy a laptop a year is not something that I can ever get used to.
Chrono: I remembering owning you a several times. You even bowed down to my ownage. I'll get back on and reclaim my defamed image.

I'll get back on after I install TF2 again on this new laptop.

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Originally Posted by BigIg

If I support the game company, then I won't won't be supporting the blank DVD business.

Decisions, decisions.

[skoreanime]

Do you have one of those coolers under your laptop? They help quite a bit.

[cottonvibes]

Originally Posted by Thanakil

I know, but it's still a lame map when you think about how it breaks everything in the game .
I mean seriously, soldiers can shoot many many many rockets hella fast and never reload.
Heavies don't have to fear anything, except snipers or spies.
Engi can makes a BUTTLOAD of sentry guns.


This kinda remove the point of some classes. I mean who needs a demoman when a soldier can do better now? Especially on such a open map.
Who needs a scout? Everyone can jump hella high with the low gravity, and the scout loses all appeal.
who needs a medic? The server was breaking the medic class anyway, they couldn't heal me.

The map is cool to "fool around" but it gets boring anyway . Thanks god those rules aren't used in normal servers.
It removes any strategy from the game, it's only a "who can shoot around the most".

The fun thing with normal map is the strategies that come with it, it's part of the fun of the game .
If you remove any balance, the game gets boring after a while. It's just broken, it can be fun for a while, but it shouldn't be pushed too much .

thanakil, i don't think the classes are really even to begin with.
for example, a Heavy can't kill a good sniper if the sniper is far away enough; hes just too slow, and his weapon is precise enough for long combat.

and a pyro can't destroy an engineer's sentry in front of a control point because his flamethrower dosn't reach, and he'll get killed if using his secondary weapon.


and you say theres no need for a Scout, yet lots of people were playing as the scouts.

people were still playing as all the different classes.


i agree that they're not totally balanced in the MarioKart server, but i don't think they're balanced at all in the real game either...

Originally Posted by John Aiton

sure, give me 30 mins

thanks my friend

Originally Posted by TheCloudOfSmoke

My laptop zapped out on me yesterday while playing and chatting on TF2 with bobrocks95, cottonvibes and Chrono Archangel. I had to buy a new one today, which is why I haven't been on since yesterday afternoon. I'm getting sick and tired of my laptops zapping out on me because of overheating. Every laptop that I have had has done that to me. The **** is annoying. I love laptops, which is why I keep getting them. But having to buy a laptop a year is not something that I can ever get used to.
Chrono: I remembering owning you a several times. You even bowed down to my ownage. I'll get back on and reclaim my defamed image.

I'll get back on after I install TF2 again on this new laptop.

what laptop did you get?

hopefully its better than your last one so the game won't **** up on you.

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[TheCloudOfSmoke]

Originally Posted by skoreanime

Do you have one of those coolers under your laptop? They help quite a bit.

I have one but I didn't use it for a long time. I've had one ever since my very first laptop burned out on me within the first 6 months of purchasing it. The funny thing is that I noticed that my laptop was getting hotter the last few days, and the night before it happened, I decided to find it and use it. Unfortunately, it was too late and it just zapped out on me during gameplay.

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Originally Posted by BigIg

If I support the game company, then I won't won't be supporting the blank DVD business.

Decisions, decisions.

[skoreanime]

Ouch .

[Thanakil]

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

thanakil, i don't think the classes are really even to begin with.
for example, a Heavy can't kill a good sniper if the sniper is far away enough; hes just too slow, and his weapon is precise enough for long combat.

and a pyro can't destroy an engineer's sentry in front of a control point because his flamethrower dosn't reach, and he'll get killed if using his secondary weapon.


and you say theres no need for a Scout, yet lots of people were playing as the scouts.

people were still playing as all the different classes.


i agree that they're not totally balanced in the MarioKart server, but i don't think they're balanced at all in the real game either...

The classes ARE balanced in the real game, they're just not balanced in a way that they can kick every classes asses.

Which is a point that you seem to be miss since you brought it in various threads .

Each class is meant to own another/some classes, to be equal to other classes, and to be weak again a few other classes.
Example : The Heavy being weak against Sniper, the Engi being weak against Demoman.

The point is that this IS the balancing.
They didn't make every class being equal to every other classes. Instead they decide to give strengths and weaknesses to every classes. That's the whole point, that's the balancing. Every class has is the rock to a scissor, and is the rock to a paper.

That's why it's named TEAM fortress too, because your weakness means you're better off playing as a team if you want to increase your chances of survival.
Learning your weaknesses and how to avoid it on your own is part of the learning process too.
Example if you play a heavy : make sure not to be in a open area where you can easily be sniped, if you're a soldier : make sure to not end up with one rocket in your launcher and then jump in a open area, you're deadmeat since you'll have to reload VERY soon making you hella vulnerable.

That server removes the weakness of some class, while increase the weakness of others, throwing the whole balancing out of the window.
You got a few classes who suddenly become god-like, and some classes who become completely obsolete and utterly weak.

The game is, be default, balanced. Not balance in a "everybody is on even ground", but balanced in a "the world goes round and round" kind of way. Everybody has weaknesses and strengths, when you add them all up, everybody has up and down who complete each other, and make it balanced. That's the whole point of it .

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[cottonvibes]

Originally Posted by TheCloudOfSmoke

I have one but I didn't use it for a long time. I've had one ever since my very first laptop burned out on me within the first 6 months of purchasing it. The funny thing is that I noticed that my laptop was getting hotter the last few days, and the night before it happened, I decided to find it and use it. Unfortunately, it was too late and it just zapped out on me during gameplay.

where do you lay your laptop?

make sure its on a hard horizontal surface, and not like a pillow or clothe or something.

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[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

thanks my friend

I had to edit out lot's of original text details and then airbrush them out to make way for the other text
then some pass conversions to create sprays of this image quality

they should look sweet ingame and of decent size

.....that's what kept me

enjoy





Anyone else want sprays?

....maybe a pcsx2 team spray?

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[cottonvibes]

Originally Posted by Thanakil

The classes ARE balanced in the real game, they're just not balanced in a way that they can kick every classes asses.

Which is a point that you seem to be miss since you brought it in various threads .

Each class is meant to own another/some classes, to be equal to other classes, and to be weak again a few other classes.
Example : The Heavy being weak against Sniper, the Engi being weak against Demoman.

The point is that this IS the balancing.
They didn't make every class being equal to every other classes. Instead they decide to give strengths and weaknesses to every classes. That's the whole point, that's the balancing. Every class has is the rock to a scissor, and is the rock to a paper.

That's why it's named TEAM fortress too, because your weakness means you're better off playing as a team if you want to increase your chances of survival.
Learning your weaknesses and how to avoid it on your own is part of the learning process too.
Example if you play a heavy : make sure not to be in a open area where you can easily be sniped, if you're a soldier : make sure to not end up with one rocket in your launcher and then jump in a open area, you're deadmeat since you'll have to reload VERY soon making you hella vulnerable.

That server removes the weakness of some class, while increase the weakness of others, throwing the whole balancing out of the window.
You got a few classes who suddenly become god-like, and some classes who become completely obsolete and utterly weak.

The game is, be default, balanced. Not balance in a "everybody is on even ground", but balanced in a "the world goes round and round" kind of way. Everybody has weaknesses and strengths, when you add them all up, everybody has up and down who complete each other, and make it balanced. That's the whole point of it .

well i don't like the idea that no-matter how skilled you are at the game, if someone is a class that your character is weak against, you'll get pwned.



and the map dosn't make characters weaker..

if you're refering to the medic not healing correctly; i think it just shows up messed up, but if you get attacked while the medic is healing you, you're invincible.
at least i think thats what it is, since i was healing someone and he never died. eventhough he got hit a bunch of times.

so i think instead of healing, its invulnerability.

Originally Posted by John Aiton

I had to edit out lot's of details and do lots of pass conversions to create sprays of this image quality

.....that's what kept me

enjoy





Anyone else want sprays?

....maybe a pcsx2 team spray?

cool, those are awsome aiton.

thanks

i'm going to be switching between them as my Sprays.


btw,
i know i'm an *******.

but you think you can do 1 more Spray with the last pic i posted?
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8...forxmasqu6.jpg

maybe instead of where it says that url in the pic.
just put cottonvibes

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Last edited by cottonvibes; May 6th, 2008 at 03:49.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

[Thanakil]

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

well i don't like the idea that no-matter how skilled you are at the game, if someone is a class that your character is weak against, you'll get pwned.

That's why you either :
1) Learn your weaknesses and learn how to play WITH them instead of against them, to reduce the number of people pwning you simply because they have a class against yours.
2) Learn to play as a team, that way you can all kill the people who pwn your classes, by defending each others.
3) Learn to play more classes. So if someone uses a class that has the advantage against yours, you can switch.

There isn't a lack of options . It's meant to keep the game fun and interesting. It's part of the strategies.
Which gun I uses depending on the situation? Which class do I use? Which tactic do I use?

It's not just "everyone has the same gun and you win by getting headshot". There's more to it than that.

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

and the map dosn't make characters weaker..

if you're refering to the medic not healing correctly; i think it just shows up messed up, but if you get attacked while the medic is healing you, you're invincible.
at least i think thats what it is, since i was healing someone and he never died. eventhough he got hit a bunch of times.

so i think instead of healing, its invulnerability.

It could have just been a glitch, but there's still classes being obsolete, like the scout and the demoman. And classes being overpowered because of all this, like the Soldier. Being a huge missile-spewer at fast speed and with unlimited ammunition = KINDA game-breaking.

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[Kaizen]

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

but you think you can do 1 more Spray with the last pic i posted?
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8...forxmasqu6.jpg

maybe instead of where it says that url in the pic.
just put cottonvibes

it's the first you've posted this one

brb in 10

[TheCloudOfSmoke]

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

where do you lay your laptop?

make sure its on a hard horizontal surface, and not like a pillow or clothe or something.

I layed my first one on my bed for a majority of the time when I had it (about 3 or 4 years ago). I learned about the horrors of laptop overheating because of that. Now I keep it layed flat on my wooden coffee table in the family room. I'm not taking anymore chances now since I just dished out about $450 cash today ($20 laptop HD USB case (to salvage my important files that are still on my other laptop HD) and a $30 desktop HD USB case for my other computer that crashed on me). So now I am always going to use my cooling fan.

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Originally Posted by BigIg

If I support the game company, then I won't won't be supporting the blank DVD business.

Decisions, decisions.

[cottonvibes]

Originally Posted by Thanakil

There isn't a lack of options . It's meant to keep the game fun and interesting. It's part of the strategies.
Which gun I uses depending on the situation? Which class do I use? Which tactic do I use?

It's not just "everyone has the same gun and you win by getting headshot". There's more to it than that.

but in a regular FPS like Unreal Tournament, you just switch to the proper gun for the situation.

But in this game, you have to kill yourself in order to get the right gun and character.

it would be cool if they add like a chamber at ur bases where you can enter and switch your character real fast w/o killing yourself.

It could have just been a glitch, but there's still classes being obsolete, like the scout and the demoman. And classes being overpowered because of all this, like the Soldier. Being a huge missile-spewer at fast speed and with unlimited ammunition = KINDA game-breaking.

well like i said, people still play as the scout and demoman in that map.

the scout's speed is good for running around and shooting at people w/ infinite ammo... and they can dodge the soldier's attacks pretty easily.

and the demoman is good for standing outside the enemies' base, and shooting inside when the garage-door opens.

and the soldier's missles arn't faster, you still have time to dodge.



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Originally Posted by John Aiton

it's the first you've posted this one

brb in 10

i posted it on the last page

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

re-read my post

i edited it

edit:

or if those 2 pics arn't good

this one
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8...forxmasqu6.jpg

see

must've missed my edit ;p



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Originally Posted by TheCloudOfSmoke

I layed my first one on my bed for a majority of the time when I had it (about 3 or 4 years ago). I learned about the horrors of laptop overheating because of that. Now I keep it layed flat on my wooden coffee table in the family room. I'm not taking anymore chances now since I just dished out about $450 cash today ($20 laptop HD USB case (to salvage my important files that are still on my other laptop HD) and a $30 desktop HD USB case for my other computer that crashed on me). So now I am always going to use my cooling fan.

yeah laptops get pretty freaking hot nowadays. They shouldn't even be called "laptops" as they'll burn you if you actually put them on your lap now...

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[Kaizen]

Here you go

remember images have to be square so I had to cut some of the hat




my own is the worst quality i've made :/

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Will anyone DARE use my avatar as spray paint ?

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[cottonvibes]

Originally Posted by John Aiton

Here you go

remember images have to be square so I had to cut some of the hat

hahahahahahah

that came out soo good

thanks man
these sprays are awsome.

Originally Posted by Hard core Rikki

Will anyone DARE use my avatar as spray paint ?

when did you steal my avatar!?

but its ok, i'm nice, we can share...

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what's with all the imitations anyway? I keep thinking HCR is posting all over the place

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[cottonvibes]

Originally Posted by John Aiton

my own is the worst quality i've made :/

linetrap

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[Thanakil]

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

but in a regular FPS like Unreal Tournament, you just switch to the proper gun for the situation.

But in this game, you have to kill yourself in order to get the right gun and character.

it would be cool if they add like a chamber at ur bases where you can enter and switch your character real fast w/o killing yourself.

1) It already exist. (the room thing)
2) UT doesn't change your HP and your speed and stuff like that when you change guns. TF changes all those things when you change classes. And you change many weapons at the same time. You can switch between the weapons you got to accommodate to the situation, I do that all the time with scout, soldier, pyro, sniper, medic and ect.
3) It's made this way so you actually THINK before choosing a class. You don't just switch in a instant. You actually have to make proper decisions and balance the classes in your team.

Again, it's all part of the Team aspect and strategy aspect of the game.
If we could just switch in one second like guns in UT, it would remove all the strategy aspect of the game and would end up as a simple "shoot people, get big score" instead of the game that currently exist.

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

well like i said, people still play as the scout and demoman in that map.

the scout's speed is good for running around and shooting at people w/ infinite ammo... and they can dodge the soldier's attacks pretty easily.

and the demoman is good for standing outside the enemies' base, and shooting inside when the garage-door opens.

and the soldier's missles arn't faster, you still have time to dodge.

People still play those classes, but they are still obsolete compared to how other classes can do what they can easily. With the low grav anyone can imitate the scout by simply jumping to avoid stuff.

The soldier missiles themselves arent faster, but you SHOOT faster. Basically, the time between two rockets is a lot shorter compared to on normal servers.

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Upon casting this spell the mage bathes a 10'x10' cube/lvl. area with mindless mutterings, ranting, copious formulaic backstory, or repeated iterations of “Romani ite Domus!”

Anyone in the area of effect must make a will save or suffer one of three effects: Confusion, Emotion of Hopelessness, or their head explodes. Blind targets are not affected. Dyslexic targets save at +3.

Counterspell: Erase