Consoles vs PC

doggieiscool · May 26th, 2007

I wanted to start a discussion about consoles vs computers(Has it been done here before?) Anyways, I like hearing opinions and facts about this. For me, if you're a dedicated gamer you'll always buy a console system. Like for example I bought AMD Athlon X2 4600+ system that at the time was the best out. Within a few weeks it was outdated and games became harder to play as you don't get enough of the desired performance as well as the GPU not performing as well. But with a console, your guaranteed the same sort of power/graphics/performance and saving money from not upgrading every month or so. What do you guys think?

Holic · May 26th, 2007

Fair point but I feel there is more to it than that:

1) what type of gamer you are: most like PC mmorpg and fps etc as for consoles stuff like sport and fighting games and a mix of others etc.

2) Most people I know own a gaming rig and console so maybe thats classed as a 'true gamer', because you aren't gonna 'miss out' on anything. You get the best of both worlds to a certain extent.

3) If feel that getting a console is best too because they are future proof for a certain length of time, unlike PC's where if you want your game to play well you need to upgrade, but again this depends on the type of person you are.

I feel that hardcore gamers usually have a monster gaming rig to get best performance in game,
whilst console versions of the same PC game will have certain thing removed due to hardware restrictions.

I'm not sure which I prefer, I like both because they have there own advantages and disadvantages.

Nucking Futs · May 26th, 2007

Personally i'm a PC Gamer, mainly because i really enjoy usind Mouse+Keyboard combo, and i like to have tweaking abilites and i love the modding scenes around good games.

I tend to wait for the consoles to become cheaper and buy them along with the really good games after about a year or 2. I've made that experience that waiting is really helpfull when it comes to this stuff. Mainly it's the price of the games/hardware but also because of certain hardware failures and firmware stuff and of course the tendeny of companies to rerelease their stuff (substance, subsistence, ps2slim, ndslite,...).

Even if the hardware becomes old the games that were already released for the good old pc can keep you up like forever, it's mostly the urge to "bettar graphiczz!11!!" that makes you want the most up to date stuff. But i have seen and gotten so many great games which have never made it into the spotlight lately that i'm quite satisfied for the next 1-2years.

The other thing i never tried is online gaming on a console, i've never seen a game that made me want to go online, and i never bothered to install the needed stuff. Maybe this may change, but up to now, online gaming was pc gaming for me. I spent days of my life in front of Diablo 2, and others of that kind.

I will definitely be getting a wii and a ps3 but that will take a while for already stated reasons, but i still am and will always be a computer gamer.

StriderVM · May 26th, 2007

For me, it's very nice to have a PC because I do multipurpose work, literally putting my work and my quiet time at the same place.

As for PC requirements, for me, I'm not really keen on graphics, so I actually prefer to be running on 60FPS even if the game looks like a PS1 game. (Since I'm from the 8-Bit generation.)

galson · May 26th, 2007

I play on consoles (and watch movies also) and use PC for internet/graphic design(well, at least I used to)/music/emulation(mainly MAME/Kawaks/UAE now)/writing letters to mama, etc. The only computer I loved to play on has been long deceased (Amiga). Fortunately there always is UAE

I used to play on PC much more in the past, though.

ChankastRules · May 26th, 2007

Well, considering the entire freeware scene, and modding communities on PC... I feel I have way too much games on my PC that I don't have near enough time to play or try already... so I never felt the need to get a next-gen console... when I was younger I'd get lots of games for my consoles though!

Densetsu · May 26th, 2007

Consoles.

I'm mainly a gamer and i hate upgrading my PC every 2 years.With consoles i can expect atleast 4 years of good fun and no worries.

skoreanime · May 26th, 2007

The only consoles I lack are 360, Wii and PS3. Never really had the urge to buy any of them. I have the money, just that I still have a huge load of PS2 and PC games I still haven't touched/finished

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Cid Highwind · May 26th, 2007

I make sure I'll have a proper pc that can run recent and near future games rather well around the time the new consoles are being released.

Then as soon as this pc gets outdated and can't play recent games anymore, consoles have dropped in price and I might pick up one of those.

Then my pc will get outdated again somewhere around the time when the next generation of consoles will be released.

Personally I really prefer consoles and console gaming, but right now I needed some new pc hardware because I simply want to be set and I wanted to get rid of my P4 for plenty of reasons. Right now my PC can play any game I throw at it, provided the developers didn't get lazy.

That's my major problem with PC gaming. My hardware is more than powerful enough, but the games suck in the technical department. Most of them are so freaking unoptimized, it alone causes a huge overhead. Games developed strictly with the PC in mind run so much better than certain console ports. I'm also the kind of person who always draws the short straw with PC gaming. Getting glitches and problems no other person has. Then again, I'm confident such things would happen to me if I'd buy a current gen console

S.SubZero · May 26th, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by doggieiscool

But with a console, your guaranteed the same sort of power/graphics/performance and saving money from not upgrading every month or so. What do you guys think?

But then again, the console's hard-set specifications mean the game developers can never work outside those specifications. A Sega Saturn will always have the same CPU, the same memory, the same video chipset. A Sega Saturn can never do more than it was designed to do.

A PC can be upgraded to meet the future demands of games that don't exist yet, or games that are early in development. It's not uncommon for PC game developers to design their games based on what they *think* PC gamers will have for hardware when the game is ready to ship. The companies that began developing games for Vista and DX10 months ago were definitely thinking ahead.

Oh, and my PC can do more than just play games.

Condor San · May 27th, 2007

I choose CONSOLES! they teh best! pay $600 and forget about the future upgrade yeaaa!

PC? pfft, its either I have no clue what to upgrade or most of the time ... to damn expensive to upgrade, and i always get low frame rate in high end games cos i can't tweak my own PC

so i just go ahead and purchase a $600 CONSOLE! Even through I knew every consoles are made from a high end PC.. but i rather pay $600 for a console! they'r k00l & slick... not to mention i get to play teh coolest hack n slash newly release single player game in every month that cost me $60 bucks ea. I also tend to try beating my OWN high score every time i play on my console.

Samor · May 27th, 2007

sarcasm?

Cid Highwind · May 27th, 2007

failed sarcasm

firyace · May 27th, 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Condor San

I choose CONSOLES! they teh best! pay $600 and forget about the future upgrade yeaaa!

PC? pfft, its either I have no clue what to upgrade or most of the time ... to damn expensive to upgrade, and i always get low frame rate in high end games cos i can't tweak my own PC

so i just go ahead and purchase a $600 CONSOLE! Even through I knew every consoles are made from a high end PC.. but i rather pay $600 for a console! they'r k00l & slick... not to mention i get to play teh coolest hack n slash newly release single player game in every month that cost me $60 bucks ea. I also tend to try beating my OWN high score every time i play on my console.

Before you post that sarcasm, you should first remove ur xfire sig

doggieiscool · May 27th, 2007

Sigh, apart from one person thank you for your opinions as I like a good discussion. Yeah I know that a console can only do so much when bought I feel if the console is good enough for you(Happy with the way games are made) then I'm happy to wait for the next generation console brother or sister. All well and good if you have the money to keep upgrading your pc time and time again. It's almost like investing a good amount of money for quality games for 2-3 years or the life span of the console. I had a Psone for a long while even when PS2 came out, despite knowing the graphics were horrid in comparsion

Proto · May 27th, 2007

Well it all depends on your genre of choice.I am a RTS person mainly so there's not much room for me to choose from

doggieiscool · May 27th, 2007

I didn't answer that did I. My genres; FPS,Third person, Racing, Sport.

Paratech · May 27th, 2007

I like both, I tend to play racing games, emulation, and a few FPS games on my PC, and arcade, fighting, racing, RPGs, among others on console.

Sometimes my PC isn't up to snuff on racers and I'll buy a racer for the console, then when I upgrade my PC, I'll get the racer, which might be in the budget bin at that point.

I do spend more time @ my PC playing emulation than on any of my consoles...

**jonc2006** · May 27th, 2007

i like both. i started out as a console gamer, way way back in the day. i usually find myself playing pc games and console games via emulation on my pc here now, although i cant do the super fancy stuff like ps2 emulation. but i try and mix it up, i dont really favor one over the other. however having the ability to play both pc and console games in one place, on my laptop, is quite nice. i tend to buy the newer consoles late, i got my gamecube only a couple months ago for 80 bucks and it came with the RE remake and a bunch of other stuff. i know the gc isnt really new but whatever. screw you hippies.

Solid_Snake · May 27th, 2007

This thread is interesting.

I'm a pc gamer, really though I used to play consoles on PSX Gboy and other older systems, I became used to PC gaming because for me it gives me more freedom of using a mouse and keyboard and I'm also a cheap gamer pc can go more expensive than a console but its only for desperate PC gamers that who wants to get thier edge. I am happy with my system because it can run my games with ease

May 26th, 2007	#1 (permalink)
doggieiscool Dear Diary, Jackpot! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I build machines B*tches Posts: 564	Consoles vs PC I wanted to start a discussion about consoles vs computers(Has it been done here before?) Anyways, I like hearing opinions and facts about this. For me, if you're a dedicated gamer you'll always buy a console system. Like for example I bought AMD Athlon X2 4600+ system that at the time was the best out. Within a few weeks it was outdated and games became harder to play as you don't get enough of the desired performance as well as the GPU not performing as well. But with a console, your guaranteed the same sort of power/graphics/performance and saving money from not upgrading every month or so. What do you guys think?

May 26th, 2007	#2 (permalink)
Holic Dox Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 690	Fair point but I feel there is more to it than that: 1) what type of gamer you are: most like PC mmorpg and fps etc as for consoles stuff like sport and fighting games and a mix of others etc. 2) Most people I know own a gaming rig and console so maybe thats classed as a 'true gamer', because you aren't gonna 'miss out' on anything. You get the best of both worlds to a certain extent. 3) If feel that getting a console is best too because they are future proof for a certain length of time, unlike PC's where if you want your game to play well you need to upgrade, but again this depends on the type of person you are. I feel that hardcore gamers usually have a monster gaming rig to get best performance in game, whilst console versions of the same PC game will have certain thing removed due to hardware restrictions. I'm not sure which I prefer, I like both because they have there own advantages and disadvantages. __________________ Find the keys to your life.

May 26th, 2007	#3 (permalink)
Nucking Futs Existentialist Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Austria Posts: 967	Personally i'm a PC Gamer, mainly because i really enjoy usind Mouse+Keyboard combo, and i like to have tweaking abilites and i love the modding scenes around good games. I tend to wait for the consoles to become cheaper and buy them along with the really good games after about a year or 2. I've made that experience that waiting is really helpfull when it comes to this stuff. Mainly it's the price of the games/hardware but also because of certain hardware failures and firmware stuff and of course the tendeny of companies to rerelease their stuff (substance, subsistence, ps2slim, ndslite,...). Even if the hardware becomes old the games that were already released for the good old pc can keep you up like forever, it's mostly the urge to "bettar graphiczz!11!!" that makes you want the most up to date stuff. But i have seen and gotten so many great games which have never made it into the spotlight lately that i'm quite satisfied for the next 1-2years. The other thing i never tried is online gaming on a console, i've never seen a game that made me want to go online, and i never bothered to install the needed stuff. Maybe this may change, but up to now, online gaming was pc gaming for me. I spent days of my life in front of Diablo 2, and others of that kind. I will definitely be getting a wii and a ps3 but that will take a while for already stated reasons, but i still am and will always be a computer gamer. __________________ ~ whoever calls himself an Existentialist does not understand the true meaning of that word ~ .: Armored Ninja :. CPU: Core 2 Duo E4300 (@ 3.333 GHz) \| Memory: Seitec 1024MB DDR2 RAM (@ 740 MHz) GPU: Geforce 8800 GTS 320MB (Core Clock: Geometric Domain @ 648 MHz / Shader Domain @ 1512 MHz Memory Clock @ 972 MHz ) Case: Thermaltake Armor VA8000B \| Cooler: Scythe Ninja Plus Rev. B \| Mobo: GA-965P-DS3 \| PSU: Corsair HX620W

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StriderVM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,756	For me, it's very nice to have a PC because I do multipurpose work, literally putting my work and my quiet time at the same place. As for PC requirements, for me, I'm not really keen on graphics, so I actually prefer to be running on 60FPS even if the game looks like a PS1 game. (Since I'm from the 8-Bit generation.) __________________ Current PC specs : ECS 780GM-A Black (Swapped my old mobo.) AMD Athlon64 X2 5600 OCed @ 3220Mhz (230x14) (1.43v) Palit Radeon 4850 Sonic 512MB gDDR3 2x1024MB DDR2 667Mhz RAM (One PQI one Kingston.... O_o)

May 26th, 2007	#5 (permalink)
galson The Big Red Machine Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Éire Posts: 1,233	I play on consoles (and watch movies also) and use PC for internet/graphic design(well, at least I used to)/music/emulation(mainly MAME/Kawaks/UAE now)/writing letters to mama, etc. The only computer I loved to play on has been long deceased (Amiga). Fortunately there always is UAE I used to play on PC much more in the past, though. __________________ My deviantART \| Generalemu \| Xbox 360 News \| PS3 News \| Wii News

May 26th, 2007	#6 (permalink)
ChankastRules NextGenerationGaymulation Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden ( Proud Game Developer ) Posts: 2,749	Well, considering the entire freeware scene, and modding communities on PC... I feel I have way too much games on my PC that I don't have near enough time to play or try already... so I never felt the need to get a next-gen console... when I was younger I'd get lots of games for my consoles though! __________________ Medical science has made great progress.. but there is still no cure for the most serious issues of all... : lazyness.

May 26th, 2007	#7 (permalink)
Densetsu Demon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hell. Waiting for Diablo's call. Posts: 790	Consoles. I'm mainly a gamer and i hate upgrading my PC every 2 years.With consoles i can expect atleast 4 years of good fun and no worries. __________________

May 26th, 2007	#8 (permalink)
skoreanime Insomniac in training... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 3,947	The only consoles I lack are 360, Wii and PS3. Never really had the urge to buy any of them. I have the money, just that I still have a huge load of PS2 and PC games I still haven't touched/finished . __________________ Born free, riding free, living free. Always be free. Q6600 @ 3Ghz, 333x9 Gigabyte DS3R, Rev1.0 Patriot Extreme DDR2 PC-6400RAM BFG 9800GX2 @ stock

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Cid Highwind Ramma Gay Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somwhere out in space? The Land of the Free? Heaven or Hell? Posts: 11,678	I make sure I'll have a proper pc that can run recent and near future games rather well around the time the new consoles are being released. Then as soon as this pc gets outdated and can't play recent games anymore, consoles have dropped in price and I might pick up one of those. Then my pc will get outdated again somewhere around the time when the next generation of consoles will be released. Personally I really prefer consoles and console gaming, but right now I needed some new pc hardware because I simply want to be set and I wanted to get rid of my P4 for plenty of reasons. Right now my PC can play any game I throw at it, provided the developers didn't get lazy. That's my major problem with PC gaming. My hardware is more than powerful enough, but the games suck in the technical department. Most of them are so freaking unoptimized, it alone causes a huge overhead. Games developed strictly with the PC in mind run so much better than certain console ports. I'm also the kind of person who always draws the short straw with PC gaming. Getting glitches and problems no other person has. Then again, I'm confident such things would happen to me if I'd buy a current gen console __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel E4400 @ 2.66GHz GPU: ATi HD4870 / 512MB / Core: 775 / Mem: 1025 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1) SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR800 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz HDD: 320GB Western Digital 16MB Caviar SE PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W Geometry Wars: 198.400 Lumines: 523.879 Rip: Cid's Bleemcast 28-08-2007 X360/Wii/PS3 belong to the current generation, update your mindset FFS

May 27th, 2007	#11 (permalink)
Condor San Gaming Overlord o(^.^)-o Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Braggin's Lil Corner Posts: 416	I choose CONSOLES! they teh best! pay $600 and forget about the future upgrade yeaaa! PC? pfft, its either I have no clue what to upgrade or most of the time ... to damn expensive to upgrade, and i always get low frame rate in high end games cos i can't tweak my own PC so i just go ahead and purchase a $600 CONSOLE! Even through I knew every consoles are made from a high end PC.. but i rather pay $600 for a console! they'r k00l & slick... not to mention i get to play teh coolest hack n slash newly release single player game in every month that cost me $60 bucks ea. I also tend to try beating my OWN high score every time i play on my console. __________________ Last edited by Condor San; May 27th, 2007 at 00:37.

May 27th, 2007	#12 (permalink)
Samor racing gamer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NL Posts: 5,355	sarcasm? __________________ Steam Community :: ID :: samor YouTube Channel (updated 28-9-2008)

May 27th, 2007	#13 (permalink)
Cid Highwind Ramma Gay Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somwhere out in space? The Land of the Free? Heaven or Hell? Posts: 11,678	failed sarcasm __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel E4400 @ 2.66GHz GPU: ATi HD4870 / 512MB / Core: 775 / Mem: 1025 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1) SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music RAM: 2GB Corsair XMS2 DDR800 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz HDD: 320GB Western Digital 16MB Caviar SE PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W Geometry Wars: 198.400 Lumines: 523.879 Rip: Cid's Bleemcast 28-08-2007 X360/Wii/PS3 belong to the current generation, update your mindset FFS

May 27th, 2007	#15 (permalink)
doggieiscool Dear Diary, Jackpot! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I build machines B*tches Posts: 564	Sigh, apart from one person thank you for your opinions as I like a good discussion. Yeah I know that a console can only do so much when bought I feel if the console is good enough for you(Happy with the way games are made) then I'm happy to wait for the next generation console brother or sister. All well and good if you have the money to keep upgrading your pc time and time again. It's almost like investing a good amount of money for quality games for 2-3 years or the life span of the console. I had a Psone for a long while even when PS2 came out, despite knowing the graphics were horrid in comparsion

May 27th, 2007	#16 (permalink)
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mexico City, Mexico Posts: 5,543	Well it all depends on your genre of choice.I am a RTS person mainly so there's not much room for me to choose from

May 27th, 2007	#17 (permalink)
doggieiscool Dear Diary, Jackpot! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I build machines B*tches Posts: 564	I didn't answer that did I. My genres; FPS,Third person, Racing, Sport.

May 27th, 2007	#18 (permalink)
Paratech Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Franklin, PA Posts: 2,287	I like both, I tend to play racing games, emulation, and a few FPS games on my PC, and arcade, fighting, racing, RPGs, among others on console. Sometimes my PC isn't up to snuff on racers and I'll buy a racer for the console, then when I upgrade my PC, I'll get the racer, which might be in the budget bin at that point. I do spend more time @ my PC playing emulation than on any of my consoles... __________________ -Member of the Windows XP "Sith" with dreams of galactic conquest, er no, I mean dreams of buying an XBOX 360 ------------------------------- Member of the Sith XP/XBOX gaming club. $95 for an XBOX, $9.99 for a copy of Halo 2...Being able to play Halo 2 without buying Vista, priceless! Vista, what OS do you not want to screw up your PC! 'k Wii will Wii will rock you!

May 27th, 2007	#19 (permalink)
jonc2006 Mod of Douchebagness™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA MD. Posts: 6,258	i like both. i started out as a console gamer, way way back in the day. i usually find myself playing pc games and console games via emulation on my pc here now, although i cant do the super fancy stuff like ps2 emulation. but i try and mix it up, i dont really favor one over the other. however having the ability to play both pc and console games in one place, on my laptop, is quite nice. i tend to buy the newer consoles late, i got my gamecube only a couple months ago for 80 bucks and it came with the RE remake and a bunch of other stuff. i know the gc isnt really new but whatever. screw you hippies. __________________ Antec 900/Antec Truepower Quattro 1000W/eVGA 780i SLI/Windows XP Media SP2 & Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit SP1/Intel Core 2 Duo E8400@3.0Ghz/eVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra 768MB/Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer/Corsiar XMS2 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2/Dual WD Caviar SE16 500GB 7200RPM HDDs The Official jonc2006™ Emotion Chart. Courtesy of PCXL-Fan after he tried to steal my identity on Steam because I am so awesome. Official jonc2006™ Fan Club Official jonc2006™ Trophy Collection

May 27th, 2007	#20 (permalink)
Solid_Snake On Stand-by Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: find it in Asia Posts: 684	This thread is interesting. I'm a pc gamer, really though I used to play consoles on PSX Gboy and other older systems, I became used to PC gaming because for me it gives me more freedom of using a mouse and keyboard and I'm also a cheap gamer pc can go more expensive than a console but its only for desperate PC gamers that who wants to get thier edge. I am happy with my system because it can run my games with ease __________________

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