Something like Metroid Prime?

[Criftus]

This is probably a pretty long shot, but I've been playing Metroid Prime for the past few days ... and I started wanting a game with similar gameplay and mechanics on the PC. You know what I mean? Like a game with the whole collection/scanning of items, or maybe some decent FPS set in a futuristic setting? I think I'm aware of almost every FPS game out there ... but I'm hoping that I missed one.

Maybe something like the original Deus Ex? Goddamn that game was sweet. Did anyone make something similar to that? Or does anyone have any recommendations for "futuristic" FPS games? Singleplayer of course. Something with a plot?

Thanks!

[industrian]

You could try Invisible War, but I think you'd be disappointed.

[D.D.]

i hate myself for saying this but maybe halo pc? i personally hate the game though. be prepared to get lost due to repeated elements used 4-5 times per stage...

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[Criftus]

Originally Posted by industrian

You could try Invisible War, but I think you'd be disappointed.

I was! *sob* Why did they ruin such an amazing opportunity? It still chokes me up when I think about that, and it makes me want to rant ... but I won't.

Any others you guys can think of? Maybe not an FPS? 3rd person maybe? Beyond Good & Evil (sweet game) kind of works for what I'm looking for, but I've already played that to death.

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[industrian]

Originally Posted by Criftus

I was! *sob* Why did they ruin such an amazing opportunity? It still chokes me up when I think about that, and it makes me want to rant ... but I won't.

I played until I got to the streets. I can't explain it, but in the original Deus Ex, EVEN WHEN YOU KNEW that it was a small area, the open street areas never felt like they had a "roof" on them. The streets of Inivsible War felt linear, and it just put me off.

Originally Posted by Criftus

Beyond Good & Evil (sweet game) kind of works for what I'm looking for, but I've already played that to death.

I feel quite bad for saying this. But I've never played that game. EVEN WORSE is the fact that I OWN it. >_>;

[Criftus]

Originally Posted by D.D.

i hate myself for saying this but maybe halo pc? i personally hate the game though. be prepared to get lost due to repeated elements used 4-5 times per stage...

Yeah, I own that one too. It wasn't great, but I guess it wasn't too bad either. I hear ya on the repeating elements too. Drove me crazy. lol

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[Criftus]

Originally Posted by industrian

I played until I got to the streets. I can't explain it, but in the original Deus Ex, EVEN WHEN YOU KNEW that it was a small area, the open street areas never felt like they had a "roof" on them. The streets of Inivsible War felt linear, and it just put me off.

I know exactly what you mean. Everything in DX:IW felt very crowded and limited to me as well. The freedom (apparent or otherwise) I felt in the original Deus Ex was completely gone. I've heard some people blame it on the engine and the restrictions it imposed on the level design (same argument for Thief: DS), but I don't buy it. They unnecessarily oversimplified everything when they decided to focus on the console market, and the games hurt because of it. I could go on and on about this ...

Originally Posted by industrian

I feel quite bad for saying this. But I've never played that game. EVEN WORSE is the fact that I OWN it. >_>;

You should give it a try if you have the time. I've heard people compare it to LoZ: OoT or Wind Waker before, and I agree that they share some of the same qualities. It's a pretty fun game. Play it on the console if that's the version you have though - there are some nasty bugs in the PC version.

[industrian]

Originally Posted by Criftus

They unnecessarily oversimplified everything when they decided to focus on the console market, and the games hurt because of it. I could go on and on about this ...

I'm sick of hearing the "they developed for the console market" excuse. In fact, I have SEVEN words that will completely neutralise the argument that they could not technically do something superior to Deus Ex/Thief even if they were developing primarily for the X-Box.

Those seven words are: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

It's a number-heavy, free-roaming RPG superfest that was designed for the X-Box first. Saying that developers have to constrict stuff like that when designing for consoles is the stupidest thing I've heard.

Then again, 14 year old X-Box fanboys wouldn't survive past the first guard encounter in the original Deus Ex. KotOR was a straightforwards RPG, those *******s seeing Invisible War as a FPS would probably expect a FPS

Originally Posted by Criftus

You should give it a try if you have the time. I've heard people compare it to LoZ: OoT or Wind Waker before, and I agree that they share some of the same qualities. It's a pretty fun game. Play it on the console if that's the version you have though - there are some nasty bugs in the PC version.

I've heard everything about the game. My ex almost broke my arm twisting it trying to get me to play it. I'll give it a try during the summer. And it's the PC version, but I've played a lot of buggy games in my time. It'll probably pale in comparison to a lot of them.

BTW: To get back onto the original topic, have you ever heard of Project: Snowblind?

[Criftus]

Originally Posted by industrian

I'm sick of hearing the "they developed for the console market" excuse ...

But Ion Storm totally tried to pull that excuse when talking to the PC users! That's why I put in the unecessarily - they gutted the game because they genuinely thought that's what they needed to do for the console users. "Streamlined" was the marketing-speak I think. Simplified the UI, game mechanics, the whole deal. I'm sure I could probably find a quote to substantiate my claim, but the game sort of speaks for itself. It's so radically different from the original ... but maybe you understood what I was saying. If you did, now that I've re-read your response, ignore all of the crap above.

Originally Posted by industrian

... Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic ...

Personally, I hate the Star Wars franchise and the culture that surrounds it. But I really loved this game. BioWare makes such great games ... I couldn't help but like it.

Originally Posted by industrian

I've played a lot of buggy games in my time. It'll probably pale in comparison to a lot of them.

It will, for sure. But there's this one bug that I remember quite vividly that's unavoidable and essentially ends the game for you. It's either present in the game if you patch it ... or if you don't. I can't remember which it is.

Originally Posted by industrian

... have you ever heard of Project: Snowblind?

I have ... but I think I passed it over. I'm reading a review in between my response here. You'd recommend it?

Originally Posted by industrian

Then again, 14 year old X-Box fanboys wouldn't survive past the first guard encounter in the original Deus Ex.

haha so true! Liberty Island was a great level.

[industrian]

Originally Posted by Criftus

But Ion Storm totally tried to pull that excuse when talking to the PC users! That's why I put in the unecessarily - they gutted the game because they genuinely thought that's what they needed to do for the console users. "Streamlined" was the marketing-speak I think. Simplified the UI, game mechanics, the whole deal. I'm sure I could probably find a quote to substantiate my claim, but the game sort of speaks for itself. It's so radically different from the original ... but maybe you understood what I was saying. If you did, now that I've re-read your response, ignore all of the crap above.

All I'm going to add to this is: THEY USED THE SAME AMMO FOR EVERY WEAPON!! WTF?!!

Case closed.

Originally Posted by Criftus

Personally, I hate the Star Wars franchise and the culture that surrounds it. But I really loved this game. BioWare makes such great games ... I couldn't help but like it.

My sci-fi tastes go like this:

Babylon 5 > Star Trek > Star Wars (the new Battlestar Galactica will fit in between B5 and ST very soon though, it kicks ass)

I've never been "into" Star Wars as much as Star Trek. As in: I watched the movies, played the games. I don't buy into the whole pretentious culture of it in any way.

KotOR was simply put: totally awesome. I mean, any game that uses Jennifer Hale's voice is normally viewed initially with "this game is gonna be generic" overtones, but KotOR used her face as well. Automatic awesomeness.

Originally Posted by Criftus

It will, for sure. But there's this one bug that I remember quite vividly that's unavoidable and essentially ends the game for you. It's either present in the game if you patch it ... or if you don't. I can't remember which it is.

One thing I've come to accept with PC games: s**t does and will happen.

Originally Posted by Criftus

I have ... but I think I passed it over. I'm reading a review in between my response here. You'd recommend it?

I heard it was good. It's a psuedo-sequel to Deus Ex more focused on action.

[Samor]

Originally Posted by industrian

I feel quite bad for saying this. But I've never played that game. EVEN WORSE is the fact that I OWN it. >_>;

You're not alone
It looks nice though, wrapped in plastic and all. I wonder if I should open it
PC version here as well...hey, it was cheap too

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[Project Epsilon]

well, i've just started playing System Shock 2 again, and one of the first things i thought was "damn, this is alot like metroid prime" alot of searching and backtracking, but with a few rpg and survival horror elements.

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Originally Posted by Project Epsilon

well, i've just started playing System Shock 2 again, and one of the first things i thought was "damn, this is alot like metroid prime" alot of searching and backtracking, but with a few rpg and survival horror elements.

I got that ages ago. I think it had some issues with my PC. I've heard both awesome (you know, the game is a classic) things about it and some niggles about it (breakable guns?!).

[Project Epsilon]

yeah, I love the game, it so damn long and scary as hell. my old pc had issues with it too, which is why i'm playing it again, cause it doesn't run like ass anymore... the guns breaking is annoying at the beginning of the game, but you can repair them over and over, and once you get some of your maintainance and repair skills up to about 3 or so, you don't really need to worry bout it anymore. or, you can just go into the config file and turn it down a bit...

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[Criftus]

Originally Posted by industrian

THEY USED THE SAME AMMO FOR EVERY WEAPON!! WTF?!!

lol! I know! That's one of the first things that tipped me off to DX:IW not being as great as I was hoping it would be.

As for Project: Snowblind, I'll try and find a demo or something. Thanks for the suggestion.

Originally Posted by Project Epsilon

... System Shock 2 ...

One of my all-time favourite games. I love it. Played it far too much as well. hehe You're right though, some of the game mechanics in Prime are very similar to SS2 (in that order).

As for those who have complaints about SS2? Forget it. The game is a masterpiece and any failings are more than made up for by everything else that's present in the game. Looking Glass is God. I'm still waiting for SS3. lol

Does anyone else have any suggestions? I'm happy to keep talking about gamings sci-fi greats, but if there's a game on someone's mind that might fit the bill I'd love to hear about it.

[industrian]

Originally Posted by Criftus

Looking Glass is God. I'm still waiting for SS3. lol

Seen this?

[Criftus]

Originally Posted by industrian

Seen this?

Yep! Looks good too, doesn't it? It's still missing something without SHODAN, but I'm really looking forward to it. What I wouldn't give for a SHODAN-taking-control-of-the-earth's-infrastructure scenario ... *sigh* so much potential.

I gave Project:Snowblind a try last night. I'd actually played the demo a while ago but forgotten about it. lol Needless to say, I was disappointed. There are some games that are just too heavy on the frantic action, and Snowblind was definitely one of them. Everything felt like it was in fast-forward. From my impressions of the demo, at least.