Half-Life 2/Source GFX and NET Tips?

Mad · September 15th, 2005

I finally bought my copy of HL2, retail it is...
Anyways, im running the game with everything max @1024 , w/out any AA or AF, and running great here.

Wanna know any tips for performance, like those u put on the shortcut, i already put -heapsize 256000 and -nojoy -noipx.
And other which could improve network latency (or would it be to lessen it?).

EDIT: forgot to ask, how do i play HL2 in offline mode? Dont wanna connect to steam everytime to play it.

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caipirinha · September 15th, 2005

just open steam when you are offline and it'll boot offline

. but if you have an internet connection it will connect. make sure the "don't save account info on this computer" on settings is unchecked.

Mr. Killjoy · September 16th, 2005

>> -heapsize 256000 and -nojoy -noipx.
heapsize should be 262144, I remind you that 1mB=1024kB... heapsize is kbytes,
it should be half of your total system RAM.

You can also put AF to 8x or 16x without much loss in framerate if you have a 9800 or better. (in fact I've never seen performance drops when compared to noAF)

As you said, leave FSAA off...

oh... I just noticed you got a GF6200, a crap card, even a 9800pro performs better.
Put everything to low, including texture details, and you'll be fine

If you can OC it then do, you'll need it

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ready2rumbelX · September 16th, 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Killjoy

oh... I just noticed you got a GF6200, a crap card, even a 9800pro performs better.
Put everything to low, including texture details, and you'll be fine

If you can OC it then do, you'll need it

Come now, Mr.Killjoy, that isn't necessarily true. Recently, I installed Half-Life 2. You know how louzy my PC specs are, especially since I downgraded to a GeForce 5600...but, what I was supirsed to see was that it was running brilliant.

1024x768, absolutely all detail levels, whether character, world or reflection, on high, 2xAA and 2xAF...it runs EXTREMELY playable.

But what is more funny is....it runs better than when I had the 9800 pro...

r2rX

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Mr. Killjoy · September 16th, 2005

Of course, that's cause it runs switched to DX8 shader paths

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CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz

- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
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24Mb/1Mb ADSL

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Mad · September 17th, 2005

Well, the graphics are beatiful, the performance is great.

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Mr. Killjoy · September 17th, 2005

Last time I checked DX8 on HL2 it was ugly

Of course if you play it single player it's no big deal if you have low FPS, but online, well... _sometimes_ even a 6800 will have slow peaks

__________________

Leader of "The Pessimists' Club"

CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz

- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
---------------------------------------------
All ePSXe plugins up-to-date

http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

ready2rumbelX · September 17th, 2005

Mr.Killjoy, the GeForce 5600 is a DirectX 9 card (not 9.0c, i.e PS2.0+), but Half-Life 2 is running in DX9 mode.

r2rX

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-Seagate 320GB (IDE) and Western Digital 500GB (SATA II) H.D
-Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB GDDR 5 (790/4400)
-Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7057 (x64)
-Realtek HD w/ Creative PC Works 5.1
-2 x L.G DVD/CD-RW Combo - GSA-H62N

Mr. Killjoy · September 17th, 2005

When HL2 detects a GF FX, it switches to DX8 cause the lack of pixel shader performances in DX9 would make in unplayable. The difference in image quality is very noticeable too. DX8 bumpmapping and reflect maps look uglier

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CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz

- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
---------------------------------------------
All ePSXe plugins up-to-date

http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

Mad · September 17th, 2005

Its runs in DX9 here.

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Mr. Killjoy · September 17th, 2005

They prolly changed it in a recent updates, previously the only way to run it DX9 with an FX card was tu use the -dxlevel 90 parameter

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Leader of "The Pessimists' Club"

CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz

- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
---------------------------------------------
All ePSXe plugins up-to-date

http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 15th, 2005	#1 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 3,300	Half-Life 2/Source GFX and NET Tips? I finally bought my copy of HL2, retail it is... Anyways, im running the game with everything max @1024 , w/out any AA or AF, and running great here. Wanna know any tips for performance, like those u put on the shortcut, i already put -heapsize 256000 and -nojoy -noipx. And other which could improve network latency (or would it be to lessen it?). EDIT: forgot to ask, how do i play HL2 in offline mode? Dont wanna connect to steam everytime to play it. __________________ [Windows 7 RTM PRO X64] [Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L] [Intel E5200@2.5Ghz] [Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB DDR2 800MHz] [HIS HD4670 1GB GDDR3] [19" LCD SyncMaster T190] [Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB] [LG HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30] (@gigaherz) S.N.K.M.A.D.: Synthetic Networked Killing and Masterful Assassination Device

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September 15th, 2005	#2 (permalink)
caipirinha Change your heart Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,989	just open steam when you are offline and it'll boot offline . but if you have an internet connection it will connect. make sure the "don't save account info on this computer" on settings is unchecked.

September 16th, 2005	#3 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,799	>> -heapsize 256000 and -nojoy -noipx. heapsize should be 262144, I remind you that 1mB=1024kB... heapsize is kbytes, it should be half of your total system RAM. You can also put AF to 8x or 16x without much loss in framerate if you have a 9800 or better. (in fact I've never seen performance drops when compared to noAF) As you said, leave FSAA off... oh... I just noticed you got a GF6200, a crap card, even a 9800pro performs better. Put everything to low, including texture details, and you'll be fine If you can OC it then do, you'll need it __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 16th, 2005	#5 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,799	Of course, that's cause it runs switched to DX8 shader paths __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 17th, 2005	#6 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 3,300	Well, the graphics are beatiful, the performance is great. __________________ [Windows 7 RTM PRO X64] [Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L] [Intel E5200@2.5Ghz] [Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB DDR2 800MHz] [HIS HD4670 1GB GDDR3] [19" LCD SyncMaster T190] [Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB] [LG HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30] (@gigaherz) S.N.K.M.A.D.: Synthetic Networked Killing and Masterful Assassination Device

September 17th, 2005	#7 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,799	Last time I checked DX8 on HL2 it was ugly Of course if you play it single player it's no big deal if you have low FPS, but online, well... _sometimes_ even a 6800 will have slow peaks __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 17th, 2005	#8 (permalink)
ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,700	Mr.Killjoy, the GeForce 5600 is a DirectX 9 card (not 9.0c, i.e PS2.0+), but Half-Life 2 is running in DX9 mode. r2rX __________________ ready2rumbelX -Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (@3200Mhz) -Gigabyte 965P-S3 motherboard -2x2GB G.Skill PC-6400 (DDR2 800Mhz) RAM (4-4-4-12) -Seagate 320GB (IDE) and Western Digital 500GB (SATA II) H.D -Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB GDDR 5 (790/4400) -Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7057 (x64) -Realtek HD w/ Creative PC Works 5.1 -2 x L.G DVD/CD-RW Combo - GSA-H62N

September 17th, 2005	#9 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,799	When HL2 detects a GF FX, it switches to DX8 cause the lack of pixel shader performances in DX9 would make in unplayable. The difference in image quality is very noticeable too. DX8 bumpmapping and reflect maps look uglier __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

September 17th, 2005	#10 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 3,300	Its runs in DX9 here. __________________ [Windows 7 RTM PRO X64] [Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L] [Intel E5200@2.5Ghz] [Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB DDR2 800MHz] [HIS HD4670 1GB GDDR3] [19" LCD SyncMaster T190] [Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB] [LG HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30] (@gigaherz) S.N.K.M.A.D.: Synthetic Networked Killing and Masterful Assassination Device

September 17th, 2005	#11 (permalink)
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,799	They prolly changed it in a recent updates, previously the only way to run it DX9 with an FX card was tu use the -dxlevel 90 parameter __________________ Leader of "The Pessimists' Club" CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: (Frying) GF8800GTS 512MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/