That's it,No more Ubisoft for me!

Player-X · April 25th, 2005

I just tried a copy of Silent Hunter3 that I borrowed and it still ****s up my windows installation just like splinter cell 3 did,From now on unless ubisoft stops using starforce and not be paranoid about piracy I will not play any of thire games just because I can't

Gamer1 · April 25th, 2005

starforce is indeed a rather bothersome. splinter cell sucks anyway....

the fact of the matter is that people who pirate will continue to do so. with or without the copy protection, and as always, those who do pirate is relieved from the bothersome copy protection measures employed (no cd checks, etc.), and in the end, those who bought legit copies having to deal with the bothersome measures.

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RF · April 25th, 2005

How about buying a cdrom that actually supports starforce?

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D.D. · April 25th, 2005

see player-x, it was entirely your own fault that u happened to buy a cd-rom drive that didnt support starforce. ubisoft and starforce has no reason to accomodate its users.

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Paratech · April 25th, 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.D.

see player-x, it was entirely your own fault that u happened to buy a cd-rom drive that didnt support starforce. ubisoft and starforce has no reason to accomodate its users.

I hope that was sarcasm... :cuss2:
The last time I looked end users were the ones paying companies, so technically, they are 'employers' of the software companies...

And as such, I'd suggest not buying crappy protected games and hoping that other users would do the same. If a majority of users stop buying a companies games because of incompatibility, the company will either have to bend to the will of gamers or file bankruptsy...

It's situations like this that are why I don't buy 'new PC games.' I tend to wait until they are in the budget bin, and by then, the protection is no longer that harsh on the because enough idiots 'er gamers bought the games at full price at the company has made most of it's money...

IMSHO too many PC gamers kiss the game industries butt by buying games when they are released...

Send the companies a message people, that we won't pay $50 for games that won't run on our PCs because of erratic copy protection... :cuss2:

Either wait for the games to drop in price or buy 'em on console whenever possible!

__Xzyx987X · April 25th, 2005

Why don't you just download a No-CD patch? Crap like this is what they're there for. I don't think anyone would criticise you for it as long as you actually own the game...

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Player-X · April 25th, 2005

Quote:

see player-x, it was entirely your own fault that u happened to buy a cd-rom drive that didnt support starforce. ubisoft and starforce has no reason to accomodate its users.

My DVD Drive does, it's just my windows installation dosn't,my main PC is out of service until I can reinstall windows,times like these makes me glad that piracy is still rampant here

D.D. · April 25th, 2005

still your fault. ubisoft does not need to care about users!

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Gamer1 · April 25th, 2005

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still your fault. ubisoft does not need to care about users!

umm, i think it should be the other way around buddy.

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Player-X · April 25th, 2005

I borrowed it and not bought it to test starforce to see if it's just SC3 or other games as well, Looks like my PC is allergic to starforce

D.D. · April 25th, 2005

man to be honest, thats just garbage. why must ubisoft use this kinda thing? its just gonna get cracked neway...

@gamer1 and Paratech: hahah sorry, just wanted to see how bad sarcasm on the internet can be. excuse my madness please.

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**hushypushy** · April 25th, 2005

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still your fault. ubisoft does not need to care about users!

yeah who cares about users!! screw them!! it's not like they're buying the products anyway.

/sarcasm

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**n_w95482** · April 25th, 2005

I personally haven't dealt with Starforce protection yet but it sure doesn't sound like a happy experience :|. Dealing with Safedisc can be annoying too; it takes forever for me to make an image of Flight Simulator 2004's fourth disc or Grand Theft Auto III PC because of it. I would take slow image creation over a screwed up computer though.

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Player-X · April 25th, 2005

They could go back to the days of CD checks or basic safedisc rather than the latest versions that happens to be a wasted effort

**Cid Highwind** · April 25th, 2005

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And as such, I'd suggest not buying crappy protected games and hoping that other users would do the same. If a majority of users stop buying a companies games because of incompatibility, the company will either have to bend to the will of gamers or file bankruptsy...

They'll blame the sudden stop of income on piracy anyway and launch an even worse copy protection

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Player-X · April 25th, 2005

like what? needing a special Disc drive with a special IDE chipset using a special IDE cable

KanedA · April 25th, 2005

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like what? needing a special Disc drive with a special IDE chipset using a special IDE cable

don't say it two times... they can hear you

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caipirinha · April 25th, 2005

splinter cell 3 worked just fine here. now I'll wait for the patch that will fix coop.

one month later and it still wasn't cracked

let's see how long it takes.

Badaro · April 25th, 2005

Because of these newer copy-protections I essentially gave up on PC Gaming.

Quite some time ago, I bought a copy of XIII. And then, I suffered for days with Ubisoft's ****ty tech support trying to get my original, store-bought copy working on a brand-new computer. In the end, I came to the conclusion that the best way to get the game working was by cracking it.

Anyway, I got so pissed off by this whole deal that I bought a console one month later. I haven't bought a single PC game in almost 18 months.

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Carmofin · April 25th, 2005

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Originally Posted by caipirinha

one month later and it still wasn't cracked

let's see how long it takes.

are you serious? wow thats kinda cool, im glad i bought it ^_^
but then, i had to buy it anyway for the online part...

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April 25th, 2005	#2 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,241	starforce is indeed a rather bothersome. splinter cell sucks anyway.... the fact of the matter is that people who pirate will continue to do so. with or without the copy protection, and as always, those who do pirate is relieved from the bothersome copy protection measures employed (no cd checks, etc.), and in the end, those who bought legit copies having to deal with the bothersome measures. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

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RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,744	How about buying a cdrom that actually supports starforce? __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: SLI 8800GTX HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

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D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,915	see player-x, it was entirely your own fault that u happened to buy a cd-rom drive that didnt support starforce. ubisoft and starforce has no reason to accomodate its users. __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

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__Xzyx987X あの人 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Front of My Computer Posts: 774	Why don't you just download a No-CD patch? Crap like this is what they're there for. I don't think anyone would criticise you for it as long as you actually own the game... __________________ This week's top 3 songs: Xzyx987X - The man with the name you can't pronounce.

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D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,915	still your fault. ubisoft does not need to care about users! __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

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Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,117	I borrowed it and not bought it to test starforce to see if it's just SC3 or other games as well, Looks like my PC is allergic to starforce

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D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,915	man to be honest, thats just garbage. why must ubisoft use this kinda thing? its just gonna get cracked neway... @gamer1 and Paratech: hahah sorry, just wanted to see how bad sarcasm on the internet can be. excuse my madness please. __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

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n_w95482 Totally crazy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,776	I personally haven't dealt with Starforce protection yet but it sure doesn't sound like a happy experience :\|. Dealing with Safedisc can be annoying too; it takes forever for me to make an image of Flight Simulator 2004's fourth disc or Grand Theft Auto III PC because of it. I would take slow image creation over a screwed up computer though. __________________ Main PC: Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 920 C0 @ 3.7 GHz (195x19, 1.3v core, 1.84v PLL, 1.3625v uncore) w/Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, 3x2 GB G Skill PC3-12800 @ 780 MHz, 7-7-7-21-1T, 1.66v; ATi Radeon HD 4870 1 GB @ 790/1000 w/Zalman VF-1000, 300 GB WD VelociRaptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), 3ware 9650SE-4LPML RAID controller, SB X-Fi Titanium, Seasonic M12D 750w, CM Stacker 810, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, Dell 2007WFP XBL/PSN/WoW: Thordrune

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Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,117	They could go back to the days of CD checks or basic safedisc rather than the latest versions that happens to be a wasted effort

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Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,117	like what? needing a special Disc drive with a special IDE chipset using a special IDE cable

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caipirinha Change your heart Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,989	splinter cell 3 worked just fine here. now I'll wait for the patch that will fix coop. one month later and it still wasn't cracked let's see how long it takes.

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Badaro I'm in despair! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,412	Because of these newer copy-protections I essentially gave up on PC Gaming. Quite some time ago, I bought a copy of XIII. And then, I suffered for days with Ubisoft's **ty tech support trying to get my original, store-bought copy working on a brand-new computer. In the end, I came to the conclusion that the best way to get the game working was by cracking it. Anyway, I got so pissed off by this whole deal that I bought a console one month later. I haven't bought a single PC game in almost 18 months. []s Badaro __________________ Fanatic for the Super Robot Taisen series** Last edited by Badaro; April 25th, 2005 at 15:01..