Sony's big OUCH...

xRock · April 4th, 2005

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lol now if the psp tanks, Sony is in some trouble. But they would have been wise to go the way Microsoft went, settle out iof court. Now they have to pay that + licensing fees for each console sold.

Toshiro · April 4th, 2005

Kind of old news, this has been out since last month.

**Cid Highwind** · April 4th, 2005

Yeah, I read about it on BBC world while Ngemu was down, IIRC Sony had to pay about $90 million to that company because of the controller issue. Where there any more consequences I missed?

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ready2rumbelX · April 4th, 2005

Regardless of what problems and troubles Sony get themselves into, they have enough money to settle anything and everything.

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HEERO YUY · April 9th, 2005

True, they do have enough money to settle anything but they still get into trouble which means loss of money for them, slower production of new systems and games for us so I dont think we gamers want that!

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ChankastRules · April 9th, 2005

well.... Sony had its days of glory with the PSX, now they suck, I hope they'll lose as much money as possible.

hellmasterx · April 9th, 2005

because sony is teh evil right?

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Metalmurphy · April 9th, 2005

oh boy...

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ChankastRules · April 9th, 2005

Not because they're evil, but because they've stopped funding good games, they probably feel like, ooo our third party support for the PS2 is so good, we don't need to waste any money on things like that....

**Kane** · April 9th, 2005

Uhhh.... there was just as much 3rd party games on the PSX. To be honest I'd rather have lots of different companies encouraged to make games for a system than have one. We've already seen the effects of weighting the development of games on one company with the N64. I'd rather not repeat that traversty thank you very much. MS do the same; they have one or two in house developers (like Bungie) and rely on third party support
As I say, I think third party support is a far better idea than putting the onus on your in house programmers.

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ChankastRules · April 9th, 2005

well,

Mario 64
Zelda 64
Halo
Halo 2
..

don't think I need to do a complete this list.

F-3582 · April 9th, 2005

...because the list ends here?

Honestly, the only good "third party" support Nintendo had was Rareware (which could be considered Nintendo II, because they made games exclusively for them).

P.S.: This thread is going slightly

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Metalmurphy · April 9th, 2005

Ico
Ico 2

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F-3582 · April 9th, 2005

ICO 2? Did Sony produce a sequel to that wonderful game???

P.S.: If I recall correctly, this case is even older. I think that I read something about that half a year ago. As far as I know they sued Sony, because Metal Gear Solid uses the rumbling feature to distract the player while aiming with the sniper rifle... Kinda silly - the dual shock controller is now seven years old (release date: 2nd April 1998) - why didn't they sue Sony earlier?

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Metalmurphy · April 9th, 2005

Its on the works yes. And its looking pretty damn amazing

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ChankastRules · April 9th, 2005

Quote:

because the list ends here?

of course not
You can add just about all Zelda games, all Mario games, metroid is really in there too I guess.

Also MS publishes games like Jade Empire, Ninja Gaiden, SW:KOTOR, and give the developer the time to finish the games and help them make them great.

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I've only heard great things about ICO... so what I'm saying is Sony should do that with more projects...

**Kane** · April 9th, 2005

And Psygnosis/Polyphony digital are Sony sub companies. You know, the guys behind the Gran Tourismo series?
What about SCEA? (Sony Computer Entertainment America):
Dark Cloud
God of War
I.Q. Remix+: Intelligent Qube
ICO
Kinetica
NBA ShootOut 2003
NFL GameDay 2001
PoPoLoCrois: Hajimari no Bouken
PoPoLoCrois: Tsuki no Okite no Bouken
Rise to Honor
Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain
The Mark of Kri
TVDJ

Sony Computer Entertainment Japan?
Ape Escape 2
Ape Escape: Pumped & Primed
Bombastic
ChainDive
Dokodemo Issho: Toro to Nagare Boshi
Fantavision
Flipnic
Hungry Ghosts
Kumauta
LifeLine
Mojib-Ribbon
Otostaz
Phase Paradox
Pipo Saru 2001
Poinie's Poin
Saru EyeToy
Seigi no Mikata
Siren
Sky Gunner
Sky Odyssey
Space Fishermen
Surveillance
Wanda and the Colossus
Wild Arms Alter Code: F
Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator
As you can see, Sony does bust out a number of games on thier own, so the third party remark is rather... toothless?

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F-3582 · April 9th, 2005

I hope that they won't try to develop the plot of the first game any further... The ending was just too good (and sort of open). It would just destroy the whole game.

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Metalmurphy · April 9th, 2005

Have you got the idea how many games has Sony published??

like thousands of them

btw here are some ico2 pics F-3582

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**Kane** · April 9th, 2005

Indeed. That's the list of games SCEA and SCEJ have developed not published. The published list is massive. Go have a look at GameFAQs. Get your record straight before you make sweeping generalisations.

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Toshiro Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Small island in Japan Posts: 822	Kind of old news, this has been out since last month.

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ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,700	Regardless of what problems and troubles Sony get themselves into, they have enough money to settle anything and everything. r2rX __________________ ready2rumbelX -Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (@3200Mhz) -Gigabyte 965P-S3 motherboard -2x2GB G.Skill PC-6400 (DDR2 800Mhz) RAM (4-4-4-12) -Seagate 320GB (IDE) and Western Digital 500GB (SATA II) H.D -Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB GDDR 5 (790/4400) -Windows 7 Ultimate Build 7057 (x64) -Realtek HD w/ Creative PC Works 5.1 -2 x L.G DVD/CD-RW Combo - GSA-H62N

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HEERO YUY Gaming Geek Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 164	True, they do have enough money to settle anything but they still get into trouble which means loss of money for them, slower production of new systems and games for us so I dont think we gamers want that! __________________ Legendary Gamer

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ChankastRules NextGenerationGaymulation Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden ( Proud Game Developer ) Posts: 2,771	well.... Sony had its days of glory with the PSX, now they suck, I hope they'll lose as much money as possible.

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hellmasterx He's watching you. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: RD Posts: 1,223	because sony is teh evil right? __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Boom Boom Dollar!!!!!! pushing all the buttons!!!

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Metalmurphy Translator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal, Oporto Posts: 5,774	oh boy... __________________ -------------------------------- Computer Specs ---------------------------------- Intel Pentium IV Prescott 3.0 HT → 4x 512MB DDR-DIMM → ASUS GF 6800 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi → 2x Maxtor 80 GB (RAID 0) Hitachi 19'' Monitor → Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Theater --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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ChankastRules NextGenerationGaymulation Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden ( Proud Game Developer ) Posts: 2,771	Not because they're evil, but because they've stopped funding good games, they probably feel like, ooo our third party support for the PS2 is so good, we don't need to waste any money on things like that....

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	Uhhh.... there was just as much 3rd party games on the PSX. To be honest I'd rather have lots of different companies encouraged to make games for a system than have one. We've already seen the effects of weighting the development of games on one company with the N64. I'd rather not repeat that traversty thank you very much. MS do the same; they have one or two in house developers (like Bungie) and rely on third party support As I say, I think third party support is a far better idea than putting the onus on your in house programmers. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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ChankastRules NextGenerationGaymulation Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden ( Proud Game Developer ) Posts: 2,771	well, Mario 64 Zelda 64 Halo Halo 2 .. don't think I need to do a complete this list.

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F-3582 Back to regular business Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in Sachsen Posts: 3,246	...because the list ends here? Honestly, the only good "third party" support Nintendo had was Rareware (which could be considered Nintendo II, because they made games exclusively for them). P.S.: This thread is going slightly __________________ In a world without walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates?

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F-3582 Back to regular business Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in Sachsen Posts: 3,246	ICO 2? Did Sony produce a sequel to that wonderful game??? P.S.: If I recall correctly, this case is even older. I think that I read something about that half a year ago. As far as I know they sued Sony, because Metal Gear Solid uses the rumbling feature to distract the player while aiming with the sniper rifle... Kinda silly - the dual shock controller is now seven years old (release date: 2nd April 1998) - why didn't they sue Sony earlier? __________________ In a world without walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates? Last edited by F-3582; April 9th, 2005 at 14:55..

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Metalmurphy Translator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal, Oporto Posts: 5,774	Its on the works yes. And its looking pretty damn amazing __________________ -------------------------------- Computer Specs ---------------------------------- Intel Pentium IV Prescott 3.0 HT → 4x 512MB DDR-DIMM → ASUS GF 6800 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi → 2x Maxtor 80 GB (RAID 0) Hitachi 19'' Monitor → Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Theater --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	And Psygnosis/Polyphony digital are Sony sub companies. You know, the guys behind the Gran Tourismo series? What about SCEA? (Sony Computer Entertainment America): Dark Cloud God of War I.Q. Remix+: Intelligent Qube ICO Kinetica NBA ShootOut 2003 NFL GameDay 2001 PoPoLoCrois: Hajimari no Bouken PoPoLoCrois: Tsuki no Okite no Bouken Rise to Honor Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain The Mark of Kri TVDJ Sony Computer Entertainment Japan? Ape Escape 2 Ape Escape: Pumped & Primed Bombastic ChainDive Dokodemo Issho: Toro to Nagare Boshi Fantavision Flipnic Hungry Ghosts Kumauta LifeLine Mojib-Ribbon Otostaz Phase Paradox Pipo Saru 2001 Poinie's Poin Saru EyeToy Seigi no Mikata Siren Sky Gunner Sky Odyssey Space Fishermen Surveillance Wanda and the Colossus Wild Arms Alter Code: F Wild Arms: The 4th Detonator As you can see, Sony does bust out a number of games on thier own, so the third party remark is rather... toothless? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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F-3582 Back to regular business Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in Sachsen Posts: 3,246	I hope that they won't try to develop the plot of the first game any further... The ending was just too good (and sort of open). It would just destroy the whole game. __________________ In a world without walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates?

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	Indeed. That's the list of games SCEA and SCEJ have developed not published. The published list is massive. Go have a look at GameFAQs. Get your record straight before you make sweeping generalisations. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb