New PS2 design

**Raziel** · September 21st, 2004

Sony has redesigned the PS2 and will launch it on november 1st (at least in europe)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3675700.stm

I'll try to find some bigger pics

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Tori-Yama · September 21st, 2004

wonder if it will stand a session SCII without to tip over

**Raziel** · September 21st, 2004

Well, I was fast, here are the new pics

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September 21st, 2004

not bad! I kinda like it.

**Raziel** · September 21st, 2004

Yeah, if some special *chips* are made compatible with it before the end of the year, I'll probably get one

(my PS2 is 100% dead

)

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Ali · September 21st, 2004

Beautiful, Sony keeps amazing people of again and again.
Damn my Old ps2 is still as new. I've only completed one game on it since one year and that was FFX

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Valcrist · September 21st, 2004

Very nice, my PS2 the first very buggy generation, is just now starting to go out after a good 4 years of dedicated service

. Still plays dvd's perfect, just games (which of course is the main use

) is starting to get slower loads and every now and then, but still very rare, I get the dreaded disc read error. So I might just trade mine in at gamestop and get the newer one.

l3illyl3ob · September 21st, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel

Yeah, if some special *chips* are made compatible with it before the end of the year, I'll probably get one

(my PS2 is 100% dead

)

just be warned, there likely wont be network or hard drive support

**Raziel** · September 21st, 2004

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Originally Posted by l3illyl3ob

just be warned, there likely wont be network or hard drive support

Well, I don't care about the hard drive, and, I guess you didn't read the article cause the ethernet adapter will be integrated.

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**Yeloazndevil** · September 21st, 2004

u should know l3illyl3ob doesn't read

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**Dark Watcher** · September 21st, 2004

Indeed...but they will remove more then just the power supply. They need to strip something in order to make it cheaper and smaller (Kind of like with the PSOne). Hmm...memcard ports check, 2 USB ports check, Ethernet built in per the report...hmm
AHA! Perhaps they will resort to the PCMCIA port found in the Japanese models. Then they can use the external HDD (See pics below). Heck..the USB's are 2.0..they can always use those for an external HDD too..The only thing we can think of that could be cut are the S400 i-Link (Firewire) port....erm...wait...they got rid of that with the 2003 models

Guess the Optical Digital sound port will be next to go

Kind of cool...

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**Raziel** · September 21st, 2004

Well, the main reasons for the shrink in size are the external PSU and a reduction of the chips' sizes, remember, the PS2 was made in 1999, at that time, the fabrication process was around 0.25µ, right ? Now we're getting at 90nm, chances are that that new PS2 at least uses 0.13µ. I remember the difference in size between the orginal SNES and the redesigned one they released, the hardware part was MUCH smaller, much like the PSX/PSOne.

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Toshiro · September 21st, 2004

Well, the new design is nice, DW you maybe right that they will probrably resort to using an external HDD. Based on my understanding the V0's and most of the PS2's in Japan uses that type of connection so this new slim design is a bonus for them. For us it will be more of a pain since Sony has made have an add on NIC and HDD, and then now they move to this method. If they did the same technique as they did in Japan (having the PCMCIA) then the transition to this new style would have not affected North America as much. As I always say, anywhere besides Japan always get screwed one way or another.

Oh well until my PS2 dies I will be keeping it. I might pick the new one up if it is available here in North America by Christmas.

Foxfyre · September 21st, 2004

there is a rumor that the new ps2 will be released here with GTA: San Andreas bundled with it....that would give them a major sales boost

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Toshiro · September 21st, 2004

Ok, it would seem that the PSTwo will have no HDD support for North America:

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/549/549986p1.html

Red__XIII · September 21st, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Watcher

Guess the Optical Digital sound port will be next to go

Nope, it's still there. http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...0921/scej2.htm for some more pics of it, including the inside.

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**Dark Watcher** · September 21st, 2004

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Originally Posted by Red__XIII

Nope, it's still there. http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...0921/scej2.htm for some more pics of it, including the inside.

Got a good press release with info on all 3 models (US / UK / Japan)
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/rele.../040921a_e.pdf

Looks like US only gets Narrow Band, and all 3 systems need a new multitap device since the older multitaps will no longer work.
Oh..and the buggers reportedly will be DVD-RW (VR mode)
*the term "DVD-Video" is used to refer to DVD-R, DVD-RW (Video
mode), DVD+R and DVD+RW discs.

Indeed! Hmm...we also notice the DVD Remote sensor (Unless we are seeing things).

Well it does sound like they are abandoning existing HDD support..especially with ole Kusanagi preaching about PSX as an alternative.

Ah well...we suppose if push came to shove, they could roll out a USB 2.0 compatible external HDD..hell...they could even resort to Flash Memory. However..we see the case. The only game that truly supports the HDD is FFXI...The others merely cache...We think Pandora (Splinter Cell) offers a map or too, but there is no demand for it.
Then there is the issue with HDDLoader apps...

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Toshiro · September 21st, 2004

Yep, who says the hard drive was only for "official" uses

. In any case that will sacrifice my large Sony 40GB memory card space, which is the reason why I invested on it so that I do not have to worry about buying a ton of memory cards.

VDDZ · September 21st, 2004

Damn, that thing is sexy. I hope, if my PS2 dies, GameStop will give me one.

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hellmasterx · September 21st, 2004

wow, and xbox is like giant compare to the pstwo

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Tori-Yama Jyushi Bismark Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 2,561	wonder if it will stand a session SCII without to tip over

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Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,246	Yeah, if some special chips are made compatible with it before the end of the year, I'll probably get one (my PS2 is 100% dead ) __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400

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Ali CoLD InSiDE Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,615	Beautiful, Sony keeps amazing people of again and again. Damn my Old ps2 is still as new. I've only completed one game on it since one year and that was FFX __________________ AMD Athlon XP 2100 @ 1.75 Ghz Gigabyte GA-7VA.XP VIA K400 1.25GB PC3200 System Ram ChainTech GeForCe4 TI 4200 128MB Creative SB Live! 5.1 2x WD Caviar 120GBs and -Rom1 Maxtor 40GB LiteON 16x DVD-Rw WindowsXP Professional-SP2 & Mandrake Linux

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Valcrist Resident Mac User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: (Hicksville Florida) Posts: 1,447	Very nice, my PS2 the first very buggy generation, is just now starting to go out after a good 4 years of dedicated service . Still plays dvd's perfect, just games (which of course is the main use ) is starting to get slower loads and every now and then, but still very rare, I get the dreaded disc read error. So I might just trade mine in at gamestop and get the newer one. __________________ \| Athlon 64 3200+ \| ASUS 6600GT \| 1 GB Dual Channel \| 20 GB Windows XP \| 100 GB Ubuntu \| 120 GB Storage \| \|14" iBook G4 1.33Ghz\|512 MB\|Radeon 9200\|60GB OSX Tiger\| >--Visit my blog--< http://blog.efx2.com/user/Tim

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Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,246	Well, the main reasons for the shrink in size are the external PSU and a reduction of the chips' sizes, remember, the PS2 was made in 1999, at that time, the fabrication process was around 0.25µ, right ? Now we're getting at 90nm, chances are that that new PS2 at least uses 0.13µ. I remember the difference in size between the orginal SNES and the redesigned one they released, the hardware part was MUCH smaller, much like the PSX/PSOne. __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400

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Toshiro Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Small island in Japan Posts: 822	Well, the new design is nice, DW you maybe right that they will probrably resort to using an external HDD. Based on my understanding the V0's and most of the PS2's in Japan uses that type of connection so this new slim design is a bonus for them. For us it will be more of a pain since Sony has made have an add on NIC and HDD, and then now they move to this method. If they did the same technique as they did in Japan (having the PCMCIA) then the transition to this new style would have not affected North America as much. As I always say, anywhere besides Japan always get screwed one way or another. Oh well until my PS2 dies I will be keeping it. I might pick the new one up if it is available here in North America by Christmas.

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Foxfyre Emulation Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 777	there is a rumor that the new ps2 will be released here with GTA: San Andreas bundled with it....that would give them a major sales boost __________________ Main Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale (4.0ghz at 445FSB)/ GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P P45 Mobo/ 4 GB G Skill PC2 8500 Ram / SAMSUNG 22X SATA DVD Burner / 500 Gig Seagate HD / 250 Gig Maxtor HD / Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB PCI-E / Realtek HD Audio 2nd PC: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester/ 2 GB Corsair PC3200 Ram / DVD-RW DL / Lite-On SOHW-832S DVD+-RW DL / 200 Gig Samsung HD / Nvidia GeForce 8400GS 256MB PCI-E / Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Bruce Almighty: How do you make someone love you without affecting free will? God: Good Question. If you find the answer to that, let me know.

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Toshiro Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Small island in Japan Posts: 822	Ok, it would seem that the PSTwo will have no HDD support for North America: http://ps2.ign.com/articles/549/549986p1.html

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Toshiro Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Small island in Japan Posts: 822	Yep, who says the hard drive was only for "official" uses . In any case that will sacrifice my large Sony 40GB memory card space, which is the reason why I invested on it so that I do not have to worry about buying a ton of memory cards.

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