Games that kicked @$$ but were never properly advertised

Coolsvilleman · September 18th, 2004

Basically I want to start a discussion about games that people rate 9 or 10 out of 10 but never really made a impact in the market. First game I wana talk about is "Beyond Good and Evil". Holy moly that game really was a 10 out of 10 for me. Astounding graphics, indepth storyline, superb music and sounds, and one of the most interesting games I've ever played. I rarely heard or saw anything on this game before I played it. It was originally supposed to be part of a trilogy and the ending leaves it open for it but unfourtunately it never sold well... and I have no idea why. I only heard about this game from the installer of "Prince of Persia". If you want something new and different I suggest checking this game out. It's also really cheap to buy if you can find it!

List of current Games:
- Beyond Good and Evil (PC)
- Klonoa (PSX)
- Freedom Fighters (XBOX, PC)
- Shutoku Battle 01 (??)
- Lodoss Wars (Sega CD)
- Sam & Max (Dos)
- Gothic 1 and 2 (PC)
- Simpson's Hit and Run (PC,??)
- Radiant Silvergun (Sega Saturn)
- NiGHTS (Sega Saturn)
- Burning Rangers (Sega Saturn)
- Guardian Heroes (Sega Saturn)
- Wrath of Denethenor (C-64)
- Bug (Sega Saturn)
- Clockwork Knight (Sega Saturn)
- Grandia 2 (Dreamcast, PC) Not to sure about this one.
- Tomba/Tombi 1 & 2 (PSX)
- Gun Metal (PC, ??)
- Asterix (Master System)
- Paper Boy 64 (N64)
-* Surge of games to be updated in list soon*

This is the list of games people have mentioned so far. I personally will probably check out one of these older games next time I want a new game instead of dishing out $50-70 for a brand new game (a.k.a Half life 2).

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**Razor Blade** · September 18th, 2004

Klonoa for the PSone. Great platformer. It was simple but really fun! And looks great on ePSXe

Yea the game never sold well and is pretty much impossible to find. Luckily I got a copy when it was first released. Anyways great game, if you can get your hands on it.

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Coolsvilleman · September 18th, 2004

I may look into it once I'm done Skies of Arcadia.

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D.D. · September 18th, 2004

freedom fighters i think is another one. that, along with Shutoku Battle 01

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**_E_** · September 18th, 2004

Lodoss Wars on the Sega CD!!! :3

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**DarkAurora** · September 18th, 2004

Sam & Max. I loved playing that game on DOS.

Warrior84 · September 18th, 2004

Gothic 1 and 2 awesome rpgs one of the best i have ever played but hardly any one knows about them

Paratech · September 18th, 2004

WAs Simpson's Hit and Run popular? I just got the game and I was 'wowed' by it. I didn't expect a "Simpsons" game to be so fun...

**fivefeet8** · September 18th, 2004

Radiant Silvergun on the sega Saturn. Amazing shooter. Too bad few got to experience it.

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**cooliscool** · September 18th, 2004

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Radiant Silvergun on the sega Saturn. Amazing shooter. Too bad few got to experience it.

So true. That and just about every other awesome Saturn game (NiGHTS, Burning Rangers, Guardian Heroes to name a few, though there are plenty more).

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stilz · September 18th, 2004

I have yet to find a game that's on par with Guardian Heroes to date (in the same genre). What a game it was...

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sxamiga · September 18th, 2004

Here's an oldie for your list. Wrath of Denethenor for the C-64. Excellent excellent game. An RPG. But advertising was quite limited and it disappeared quite fast. I have it for my C-64 emu. I loved it and beat it when I had the original.
sx/amiga

F-3582 · September 18th, 2004

Almost every SEGA Saturn game here, for the Saturn was never really advertised in Germany. They just put it into the stores, but the people didn't care, because no one really knew about it. The only games I really remember seeing on the Saturn were Bug (I even played this one) and Clockwork Knight.

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**Cid Highwind** · September 18th, 2004

I probably can add a lot of Dreamcast titles to the list including the console itself..... It was never given the attention it deserved here in Holland.
To name one game: Grandia 2!!

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Rhombus · September 18th, 2004

So basically this is just one of those "best underrated games" threads... the thing was, before PSX really, advertising wasn't THAT big of a thing for games. C-64, NES, SNES... sure they were all advertised, but mostly just in gaming magazines, not in any media outside of the "gaming" world. There also wasn't much of an internet community at that time either, which has become such a big deal for game advertising. The only real exceptions I can think of are for some NES titles, but this was at the point when Nintendo had already made a killing, and had a monopoly and could do whatever they wanted - and actually decided to spend some money in advertising to strengthen their chokehold even further... and when the Genesis came out there were those commercials and ads everywhere for "Genesis does what Nintendon't". I mean, of all the awesome games I played for the C-64, NES, SNES, whatever... I remember that advertising didn't really play much of a role at all in the games that I bought.

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BeNooL · September 18th, 2004

Tomba/Tombi 1 & 2 for PSone.

Excellent mix of adventure/platformer with a mission based objectives. Kinda like Metroid/Castlevania gameplay. Impressive level design and use of 2D/3D graphics.
I really loved those games!

September 18th, 2004

I'd nominate Gun Metal...gotta love that game.

Ghale0n · September 18th, 2004

Asterix for Sega master System
One of the best platformers ive ever played

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Kaiser Sigma · September 18th, 2004

All the games on the Saturn and Dreamcast were poorly advertised... and a good chunk of them were superb games so...

Nailo1313 · September 18th, 2004

How about Paper Boy 64 for the N64? It was one of the fist 3D games to incooperate tricks in a biking game.

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Coolsvilleman Emulation to the max! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,560	Games that kicked @$$ but were never properly advertised/Best Underrated Games Basically I want to start a discussion about games that people rate 9 or 10 out of 10 but never really made a impact in the market. First game I wana talk about is "Beyond Good and Evil". Holy moly that game really was a 10 out of 10 for me. Astounding graphics, indepth storyline, superb music and sounds, and one of the most interesting games I've ever played. I rarely heard or saw anything on this game before I played it. It was originally supposed to be part of a trilogy and the ending leaves it open for it but unfourtunately it never sold well... and I have no idea why. I only heard about this game from the installer of "Prince of Persia". If you want something new and different I suggest checking this game out. It's also really cheap to buy if you can find it! List of current Games: - Beyond Good and Evil (PC) - Klonoa (PSX) - Freedom Fighters (XBOX, PC) - Shutoku Battle 01 (??) - Lodoss Wars (Sega CD) - Sam & Max (Dos) - Gothic 1 and 2 (PC) - Simpson's Hit and Run (PC,??) - Radiant Silvergun (Sega Saturn) - NiGHTS (Sega Saturn) - Burning Rangers (Sega Saturn) - Guardian Heroes (Sega Saturn) - Wrath of Denethenor (C-64) - Bug (Sega Saturn) - Clockwork Knight (Sega Saturn) - Grandia 2 (Dreamcast, PC) Not to sure about this one. - Tomba/Tombi 1 & 2 (PSX) - Gun Metal (PC, ??) - Asterix (Master System) - Paper Boy 64 (N64) -* Surge of games to be updated in list soon* This is the list of games people have mentioned so far. I personally will probably check out one of these older games next time I want a new game instead of dishing out $50-70 for a brand new game (a.k.a Half life 2). __________________ Q6600 Core 2 Quad \|\| Soundblaster X-Fi Extreme HD \|\| e-VGA 8800GTX \|\| 4096mb 4-4-4-12-2T Dual-Channel RAM \|\| MSI P6N Diamond \|\| 2x 320GB Hardrive \|\| 5.1 Speakers \|\| Remote control \|\| 8x USB 2.0 \|\| DVD/CD ±RW Drive \|\| 1x IEEE1394 www.coolsvilleman.homedns.org Normally down. E-mail me for a DVD @ coolsvilleman@gmail.com Last edited by Coolsvilleman; September 21st, 2004 at 00:03.. Reason: Update

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September 18th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	Klonoa for the PSone. Great platformer. It was simple but really fun! And looks great on ePSXe Yea the game never sold well and is pretty much impossible to find. Luckily I got a copy when it was first released. Anyways great game, if you can get your hands on it. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Coolsvilleman Emulation to the max! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,560	I may look into it once I'm done Skies of Arcadia. __________________ Q6600 Core 2 Quad \|\| Soundblaster X-Fi Extreme HD \|\| e-VGA 8800GTX \|\| 4096mb 4-4-4-12-2T Dual-Channel RAM \|\| MSI P6N Diamond \|\| 2x 320GB Hardrive \|\| 5.1 Speakers \|\| Remote control \|\| 8x USB 2.0 \|\| DVD/CD ±RW Drive \|\| 1x IEEE1394 www.coolsvilleman.homedns.org Normally down. E-mail me for a DVD @ coolsvilleman@gmail.com

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D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,915	freedom fighters i think is another one. that, along with Shutoku Battle 01 __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

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_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	Lodoss Wars on the Sega CD!!! :3 Yours, -Elly __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

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DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,741	Sam & Max. I loved playing that game on DOS.

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Warrior84 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 154	Gothic 1 and 2 awesome rpgs one of the best i have ever played but hardly any one knows about them

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stilz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ngemu? Posts: 607	I have yet to find a game that's on par with Guardian Heroes to date (in the same genre). What a game it was... __________________ To all emulator authors and contributors: without your hard work, we'd be without many hours of enjoyment and unable to relive fond memories of childhood. Thank you.

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sxamiga I've Changed Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orangevale CA USA Posts: 298	Here's an oldie for your list. Wrath of Denethenor for the C-64. Excellent excellent game. An RPG. But advertising was quite limited and it disappeared quite fast. I have it for my C-64 emu. I loved it and beat it when I had the original. sx/amiga

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F-3582 Back to regular business Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in Sachsen Posts: 3,246	Almost every SEGA Saturn game here, for the Saturn was never really advertised in Germany. They just put it into the stores, but the people didn't care, because no one really knew about it. The only games I really remember seeing on the Saturn were Bug (I even played this one) and Clockwork Knight. __________________ In a world without walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates?

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Cid Highwind Human Metal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holland / Hungary Posts: 13,541	I probably can add a lot of Dreamcast titles to the list including the console itself..... It was never given the attention it deserved here in Holland. To name one game: Grandia 2!! __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz GPU: Sapphire ATi HD4870 / 1024MB / Core: 801 / Mem: 1000 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1) SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music RAM: 2GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, 32MB PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Geometry Wars: 198.400 Lumines: 999.999 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

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Rhombus The Moogle Assassin Join Date: May 2002 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 2,081	So basically this is just one of those "best underrated games" threads... the thing was, before PSX really, advertising wasn't THAT big of a thing for games. C-64, NES, SNES... sure they were all advertised, but mostly just in gaming magazines, not in any media outside of the "gaming" world. There also wasn't much of an internet community at that time either, which has become such a big deal for game advertising. The only real exceptions I can think of are for some NES titles, but this was at the point when Nintendo had already made a killing, and had a monopoly and could do whatever they wanted - and actually decided to spend some money in advertising to strengthen their chokehold even further... and when the Genesis came out there were those commercials and ads everywhere for "Genesis does what Nintendon't". I mean, of all the awesome games I played for the C-64, NES, SNES, whatever... I remember that advertising didn't really play much of a role at all in the games that I bought. __________________ Processor: Athlon 64 3400+ Mobo: MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R RAM: 1 GB Corsair XMS GFX Card: Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128 Sound Card: SB Audigy 2 ZS HDD1: Seagate 160MB 8MB 7200 HDD2: Seagate 80MB 8MB 7200 Burner: NEC 16x DVDR Keyboard/Mouse: Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB Gamepad1: PS2 Dual Analog/KiKY X USB Gamepad2: Gravis GamePad Pro OS: Windows XP Pro sp2 *Tempus fugit et nos fugimus in illus.* *Fiat justitia; ruat coelum.*

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BeNooL Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 191	Tomba/Tombi 1 & 2 for PSone. Excellent mix of adventure/platformer with a mission based objectives. Kinda like Metroid/Castlevania gameplay. Impressive level design and use of 2D/3D graphics. I really loved those games!

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Nailo1313 Bang Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 9	How about Paper Boy 64 for the N64? It was one of the fist 3D games to incooperate tricks in a biking game.