Yet Another Game Ruined by Subpar Voiceacting: Star Ocean 3 Till End of Time

stilz · September 7th, 2004

The topic of voiceacting for Japanese games/animes has been discussed before. And here is just yet another would-be-great title that is going to be brought down by the "low-budget approach" with voice talent (actually I don't care how much they spend, I want the original one included!).
Quote from IGN:

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In fact, the voice acting inevitably kills the mood during some of the most powerful scenes. With amateurish deliveries, bad timing, and multiple characters that seem to share the same actor. And given the Japanese version's incredibly high-profile cast (talent from Bubblegum Crisis, Scryed, Vandread, and Love Hina provided their duties overseas), the choice to go low budget in this regard was a poor one.

source:here

I suppose I really should go study Japanese now..

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**Razor Blade** · September 7th, 2004

From all the sales of Star Ocean 2 in Europe and North America they should have known that they would get there money's worth for Star Ocean 3 ... So why not spend a few more dollars for better voice actors

That sucks.

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**Ryos** · September 7th, 2004

Actually...SO 3's voice acting isn't that bad. It's kind of annoying some guy has 12 characters he does in the main plot, but oh well.

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**FLaRe85** · September 7th, 2004

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Actually...SO 3's voice acting isn't that bad. It's kind of annoying some guy has 12 characters he does in the main plot, but oh well.

Yeah, I just watched some videos and the voice acting isn't the worst I've seen. It could use improvement though. The real problem seems to lie in the timing. Each character pauses for ~5 seconds before they reply to what another character has said.

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Foxfyre · September 7th, 2004

I truly think the voice acting is very above average. Trust me, it could be ALOT worse. And I really think people need to stop taking things for granted....I mean really, when I first started playing video games about 15 years or so ago, I was playing Super Mario Bros. Technology is advancing at a very fast pace, and people think that all this stuff should just be done perfect. I have already put 15 hours into Star Ocean:Till the End Of Time and think it is going to one of the BEST rpg's I've ever played. The only really annoying thing about it is the amount of leveling up that this game requires. Almost everytime I get to a new area, I have to spend at least an hour gaining levels. But I think that might be a good thing, because it spaces the extensive storyline out a little. Next time try playing a game yourself instead of just taking some websites word for it.

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stilz · September 7th, 2004

Yeah, I should really see it for myself before the complaints. The things is though, I've played several Japanese RGPs and I never really like the voiceacting of them, even for a high-budget (right?) one like Final Fantasy X. Same goes for animes. As far as taking things for granted...well, we are paying for them though

. I don't wish for them to spend a lot of money on more/better voice talents, letting us have the option or opportunity to have the original sounds is well enough.

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**Ryos** · September 7th, 2004

This is a better job of voiceacting than that overacting melodrama known as FFX.

As a sub elitist, saying that a dub is ok is like me saying...uh...that I'm going to start playing racing games. I think I'd say the dubbing overall for SO 3 is better than any other game that I've played other than Kingdom Hearts. So...yeah. Just make sure you don't use the annoying characters, and you should be ok.

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hellmasterx · September 7th, 2004

the worst dub iv ever see was bloody roar 4.

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Sampah · September 7th, 2004

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the worst dub iv ever see was bloody roar 4.

True, SO3 voice acting still far better than Bloody Roar 4, BR4 voice acting is the worst I have ever seen that game shouldn't be released it S-U-C-K-S!

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Rhombus · September 7th, 2004

I think the problem with SO3 is the script... I think Square writes kinda cheesy scripts. Don't get me wrong, they write good PLOTS, but their scripting for DIALOGUE needs alot of improvement. I had a chance to play both the English and the Japanese versions of FFX, and while people complained about the English voice acting, I found the Japanese version equally disappointing.

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kuaikukia · September 8th, 2004

As long the gameplay is good enough, so who cares about their voice anyway ?

**Ryos** · September 8th, 2004

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Originally Posted by kuaikukia

As long the gameplay is good enough, so who cares about their voice anyway ?

There's roughly 20-30 hours of voice acting scenes. If you couldn't turn off voices (which you can in SO 3), bad voice acting really would kill the story.

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September 8th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Rena

[...] As a sub elitist, saying that a dub is ok is like me saying...uh...that I'm going to start playing racing games. [...]

HM!

Sampah · September 8th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Rena

There's roughly 20-30 hours of voice acting scenes. If you couldn't turn off voices (which you can in SO 3), bad voice acting really would kill the story.

well, at least there's an option to turn off the voice in config menu...

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Toshiro · September 8th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Sampah

well, at least there's an option to turn off the voice in config menu...

True enough, after enough battling you will find those voices will get on your nerves. So yes that option is quite handy

On the other note after SO3 I will be off to Phantom Braves which has the Japanese dialogues, so I will be entreated after this game hehe

kuaikukia · September 15th, 2004

Wel, at least the developer of SO3 knows their voice acting are cramp. So they put the turn off voice feature.

**DarkAurora** · September 15th, 2004

The only English voice acting I've ever heard for a videogame that I thought was really good was Grandia 2.

fayt · September 16th, 2004

grandia extreme is another one..

tales of destiny is the best

Ghale0n · September 16th, 2004

Grandia Xtreme good voice acting? youre joking right?

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September 7th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,032	From all the sales of Star Ocean 2 in Europe and North America they should have known that they would get there money's worth for Star Ocean 3 ... So why not spend a few more dollars for better voice actors That sucks. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

September 7th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	Actually...SO 3's voice acting isn't that bad. It's kind of annoying some guy has 12 characters he does in the main plot, but oh well. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

September 7th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
Foxfyre Emulation Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 777	I truly think the voice acting is very above average. Trust me, it could be ALOT worse. And I really think people need to stop taking things for granted....I mean really, when I first started playing video games about 15 years or so ago, I was playing Super Mario Bros. Technology is advancing at a very fast pace, and people think that all this stuff should just be done perfect. I have already put 15 hours into Star Ocean:Till the End Of Time and think it is going to one of the BEST rpg's I've ever played. The only really annoying thing about it is the amount of leveling up that this game requires. Almost everytime I get to a new area, I have to spend at least an hour gaining levels. But I think that might be a good thing, because it spaces the extensive storyline out a little. Next time try playing a game yourself instead of just taking some websites word for it. __________________ Main Rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale (4.0ghz at 445FSB)/ GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P P45 Mobo/ 4 GB G Skill PC2 8500 Ram / SAMSUNG 22X SATA DVD Burner / 500 Gig Seagate HD / 250 Gig Maxtor HD / Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB PCI-E / Realtek HD Audio 2nd PC: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester/ 2 GB Corsair PC3200 Ram / DVD-RW DL / Lite-On SOHW-832S DVD+-RW DL / 200 Gig Samsung HD / Nvidia GeForce 8400GS 256MB PCI-E / Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2 ZS Bruce Almighty: How do you make someone love you without affecting free will? God: Good Question. If you find the answer to that, let me know.

September 7th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
stilz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ngemu? Posts: 607	Yeah, I should really see it for myself before the complaints. The things is though, I've played several Japanese RGPs and I never really like the voiceacting of them, even for a high-budget (right?) one like Final Fantasy X. Same goes for animes. As far as taking things for granted...well, we are paying for them though . I don't wish for them to spend a lot of money on more/better voice talents, letting us have the option or opportunity to have the original sounds is well enough. __________________ To all emulator authors and contributors: without your hard work, we'd be without many hours of enjoyment and unable to relive fond memories of childhood. Thank you.

September 7th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	This is a better job of voiceacting than that overacting melodrama known as FFX. As a sub elitist, saying that a dub is ok is like me saying...uh...that I'm going to start playing racing games. I think I'd say the dubbing overall for SO 3 is better than any other game that I've played other than Kingdom Hearts. So...yeah. Just make sure you don't use the annoying characters, and you should be ok. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

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hellmasterx He's watching you. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: RD Posts: 1,223	the worst dub iv ever see was bloody roar 4. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Boom Boom Dollar!!!!!! pushing all the buttons!!!

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Rhombus The Moogle Assassin Join Date: May 2002 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 2,081	I think the problem with SO3 is the script... I think Square writes kinda cheesy scripts. Don't get me wrong, they write good PLOTS, but their scripting for DIALOGUE needs alot of improvement. I had a chance to play both the English and the Japanese versions of FFX, and while people complained about the English voice acting, I found the Japanese version equally disappointing. __________________ Processor: Athlon 64 3400+ Mobo: MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R RAM: 1 GB Corsair XMS GFX Card: Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro 128 Sound Card: SB Audigy 2 ZS HDD1: Seagate 160MB 8MB 7200 HDD2: Seagate 80MB 8MB 7200 Burner: NEC 16x DVDR Keyboard/Mouse: Logitech Cordless MX Duo USB Gamepad1: PS2 Dual Analog/KiKY X USB Gamepad2: Gravis GamePad Pro OS: Windows XP Pro sp2 *Tempus fugit et nos fugimus in illus.* *Fiat justitia; ruat coelum.*

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kuaikukia Bloody Roar Fang Join Date: May 2003 Location: earth Posts: 301	As long the gameplay is good enough, so who cares about their voice anyway ?

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kuaikukia Bloody Roar Fang Join Date: May 2003 Location: earth Posts: 301	Wel, at least the developer of SO3 knows their voice acting are cramp. So they put the turn off voice feature.

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DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,741	The only English voice acting I've ever heard for a videogame that I thought was really good was Grandia 2.

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fayt Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 29	grandia extreme is another one.. tales of destiny is the best

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Ghale0n No Prayer For The Dying Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 248	Grandia Xtreme good voice acting? youre joking right? __________________ *R.I.P Steve Irwin, you were an inspiration to us all*