Warcraft III Level Demo Help

[RZetlin]

I'm getting my clocked clean on the last level of the demo where you have to fend off the forces until the ships are built.

The Seige Golems and the other elemental monsters are providing a lot problems.

The Seige Golems are taking little damage when I attack them.

Do Seige Golems have any weaknesses?

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[Proto]

If.... i dont remember well but large units have heavy armor. Try piercing units, if you are playing with humans then go riflemen, if orcs troll headhunters and so on...

Also i think that magic casters have piercing damage in the older versions... (they do magic damage on the newer patches)

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[Badaro]

Originally Posted by Proto

If.... i dont remember well but large units have heavy armor. Try piercing units, if you are playing with humans then go riflemen, if orcs troll headhunters and so on...

The Siege Golems in the Demo are different units from the Siege Golems in the regular game. They're Chaos damage, Fortified armor and use the Rock Golem model. Also, you can only play Orc in the Demo.

Originally Posted by RZetlin

I'm getting my clocked clean on the last level of the demo where you have to fend off the forces until the ships are built.

The Seige Golems and the other elemental monsters are providing a lot problems.

The Seige Golems are taking little damage when I attack them.

Do Seige Golems have any weaknesses?

They have Fortified armor, which means they're vulnerable to Siege Damage - Catapults and Raiders.

My strategy for that level was:

- My troop was mainly composed of Grunts and Trolls, with about 4-6 Docs and Shamans for support;
- Mix some raiders if you're having trouble with the Golems;

- Good building placement:
- Build burrows in front of the towers, so they're harder to reach;
- Always repair damaged burrows and towers, and rebuild the ones you lose;

- Use Witch Doctors wisely:
- Place Sentry Wards ahead of your three base entrances so you can see the enemies before they get close, this way you don't need to split troops;
- Always keep a Stasis Traps close to the entrance so enemies get stunned when they get close, giving you extra time to react (Note: Won't work with Golems, they're immune to magic);
- After you get Healing Ward, use it every battle if possible;

- Get Bloodlust for your Shamans, it's auto-cast and a huge boost to your troops;

- Try to use your offensive hero spells (Wolves, Chain) whenever possible.

That's about it. Good luck!

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Last edited by Badaro; September 2nd, 2004 at 01:27..

[Proto]

The Siege Golems in the Demo are different units from the Siege Golems in the regular game. They're Chaos damage, Fortified armor and use the Rock Golem model. Also, you can only play Orc in the Demo.

My bad, I should have double checked.... sorry for the misinformation

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[RZetlin]

Originally Posted by Badaro

The Siege Golems in the Demo are different units from the Siege Golems in the regular game. They're Chaos damage, Fortified armor and use the Rock Golem model. Also, you can only play Orc in the Demo.

They have Fortified armor, which means they're vulnerable to Siege Damage - Catapults and Raiders.

My strategy for that level was:

- My troop was mainly composed of Grunts and Trolls, with about 4-6 Docs and Shamans for support;
- Mix some raiders if you're having trouble with the Golems;

That's about it. Good luck!

[]s Badaro

Thanks for your help.

I find that the the Grunts and Trolls always get stunted when they go hand to hand combat with the Golem.

The Golem usually end up destroying several buildings at once.

I'm also finding that I don't have enough resources to get everything together in such a short period of time.

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[Proto]

well then just use some grunts, wolves and the swordmaster with its ilussions to distract the golems, though you should be careful with the micro, meanwhile let the catapults deal the damage

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[caipirinha]

wait till you see the last level of the frozen throne ¬¬ .

focus fire , micro and lots of patience, you'll eventually make it :P

[Badaro]

Originally Posted by Proto

well then just use some grunts, wolves and the swordmaster with its ilussions to distract the golems, though you should be careful with the micro, meanwhile let the catapults deal the damage

You only have the Far Seer in the Demo. Proto, if you have TFT, you can play the Demo Campaign by going into "Single Player -> Custom Campaigns", it's called "Exodus of the Horde". It's only 3 short missions, and should be easy for an experienced War3 player.

Originally Posted by RZetlin

I find that the the Grunts and Trolls always get stunted when they go hand to hand combat with the Golem.

I can understand the Grunts getting stunned, but the Trolls? They have enough range to hit him while avoiding the stun. Make sure you aren't moving then too close to the Golem.

Originally Posted by RZetlin

The Golem usually end up destroying several buildings at once.

As I mentioned before, make good use of Sentry Wards, they'll allow you to see attacks long before the enemy gets to your base, giving you the opportunity to intercept them before they can hit your buildings.

Originally Posted by RZetlin

I'm also finding that I don't have enough resources to get everything together in such a short period of time.

You need 5 peons in gold, and 6-8 in wood to get the most resources in that level. Keep the wood peons in the top at fist, near the War Mill, and move them down, near your town hall when they start running low on wood to harvest at the top.

Give priority to Melee units at first (Grunts/Raiders), then Docs, Shamans and finally Trolls. Also, upgrade the Docs and Shamans to Adept/Master ASAP. Things should get MUCH easier once you get Healing Ward and Bloodlust.

Originally Posted by caipirinha

wait till you see the last level of the frozen throne ¬¬ .

focus fire , micro and lots of patience, you'll eventually make it :P

I still think the last level of the Undead Campaign is the hardest level in the game, took me 5 tries or so to beat it the first time. The last one is TFT kinda crazy, lots of stuff going on at once, but still doable.

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[Proto]

You only have the Far Seer in the Demo. Proto, if you have TFT, you can play the Demo Campaign by going into "Single Player -> Custom Campaigns", it's called "Exodus of the Horde". It's only 3 short missions, and should be easy for an experienced War3 player.

Okok ill guess ill shut up now.. still microing should be your trump card here IMO
(and no i dont have TFT )

I still think the last level of the Undead Campaign is the hardest level in the game, took me 5 tries or so to beat it the first time. The last one is TFT kinda crazy, lots of stuff going on at once, but still doable.

Hmm... i had lil trouble with that level, even at hard... however i needed many tries to get the last level of the night elf campaign in classic, hard.

Hmm... i got a TFT from a friend () just to play to campaigns and i found them a little easy... well the last one took me a while (i kept capturing and losing the posts for the whole middle game) but i finished it in my first shot

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[Badaro]

Originally Posted by Proto

Hmm... i had lil trouble with that level, even at hard... however i needed many tries to get the last level of the night elf campaign in classic, hard.

(Forgot to mention, I was talking about the last mission in the UD classic campaign)

My problem was that the Lich kept dying in the last 10s. Even at the time I did it, the Lich would've probably died in 5 more seconds.

Curiously, I didn't have much trouble with the last NE classic mission. Got past there easily, with Archimonde barely touching the 3rd base.

[]s Badaro

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[caipirinha]

argh , you just unburied my hidden nightmares, that UD mission is DA SH1T!!11!1!! haha, it took me so many tries with that son of a... dying in the last few seconds I was pulling my hair and banging my head on the wall. eventually I made it... and it felt like an orgasm...