Screamer

**Kane** · July 17th, 2004

Why is it I can't find any vaguely recent PC games of the calibre of this. I want to drift excessively round corners like in Ridge Racer and Screamer, but other than Initial D (who's drift is actualy surprisingly understated), I can't find any decent games like it. Anyone know of any?

Kaiser Sigma · July 17th, 2004

Screamer was one of those special games which comes out once in a really long while... other than Screamer 2 and Screamer Rally I haven't found a racing game like that on the PC. Quite hard to match...

Grv · July 18th, 2004

I'm with Kaiser on this. But to be honest, I haven't actually been looking for them since Screamer Rally either.

July 18th, 2004

well, it's not exactly like screamer , but you could try LFS. (lfs.racesimcentral.com) ...analog device required.
and, yes, it's simulation-like, but it DOES feature a few very drift-friendly cars.
Try the demo. It has the RWD cars, and they're the best for drifting.

Kaiser Sigma · July 18th, 2004

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Originally Posted by klatch

I'm with Kaiser on this. But to be honest, I haven't actually been looking for them since Screamer Rally either.

I have... back on the days, us PC users were quite on the lookout for Console racing-like games (like Daytona USA or Ridge Racer)... the only thing that comes close (though by no means similar to Screamer) is Sega Rally 2. Quite good at speed but again... not a Screamer by a long shot.

**Kane** · July 18th, 2004

Yeah, Sega Rally 2 was quite good. I might try out LFS. I was thinking about it after I heard you ranting about it.
I don't even mind PS2/PSX/DC ones as I can still play them, but they are all heading Sim too. Last PSX racer I really liked was Rage Racer

F-3582 · July 18th, 2004

What about MicroMachines?

Or Bleifuß Fun?

Well, at least the MicroMachines games had a very good drift factor.

**Kane** · July 18th, 2004

....Micromachines is a top down raccer. That's not really what I'm after. It's really gotta be camer strapped to the bumper stuff.

July 18th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Kane-Sama

Yeah, Sega Rally 2 was quite good. I might try out LFS. I was thinking about it after I heard you ranting about it.
I don't even mind PS2/PSX/DC ones as I can still play them, but they are all heading Sim too. Last PSX racer I really liked was Rage Racer

well, LFS has a car that looks surprisingly much like a white FC..
so, why not a little demo (note, 56k users, it takes a while to load).... I'm the white car

Vanit · July 19th, 2004

Haha thats cool... almost makes me want to play a racing game. Actually I think I have a copy of Screamer lying around somewhere.

Death Metal · July 21st, 2004

I had my beautiful copy of Screamer until, like, 5 years ago, when I lent it to a cousin of mine and the fecker never returned it to me since then. To this end, I barely remember what it was like.

Kaiser Sigma · July 21st, 2004

Think of Ridge Racer mixed with Daytona USA and an unparalleled feeling of speed... that's Screamer for you.

July 21st, 2004

Screamer 1 yeah. Pretty good for its time, but really as Kaiser says, it's ridge racer mixed with daytona... btw, I think RR is faster (and better; but there weren't PS emus back then).

**Kane** · July 21st, 2004

The drifting in Ridge Racer wasn't as fun as in Screamer. Rage Racer made it even worse, you slow down so heavily while drifting.

July 21st, 2004

screamer 1 = supergrip

I like RR's drifting better than that...
as for Screamer 2 and Rally, they're quite different, but have excellent drift; rally style.

then there's NFSU, which does have drift, allthough it's not exactly like its done in screamer either.
Midnight club 2 isn't good with drift, and the new racer Juiced seems to be capable but ruins it by using the sidewalk as as track borders.
There are Dirt Track racing games that have excellent drift, but they're sims and based on wierd custom cars in sand pits that don't have any appeal (at least not to me).
There are a few new rally games coming up ..maybe one of those will have what we're looking for (or maybe nfsu2)
I think LFS might be too much sim and too slow for your taste btw, but be sure to at least give it a try

..so, that doesn't leave very much I'm afraid. There are a few free racing sims around for which people developed the 86 (I believe both netkar and racer have it) but I have no idea if it will drive like you want to; theyre probably simulation-like, meaning that it will probably be 'dull' for someone who likes arcade racing better.

..for now, replace the rap crap in NFSU with eurobeat; that's the closest you're gonna get (I think). At the very least it makes the game more enjoyable.

**Kane** · July 21st, 2004

Not if you are using the car I use (1 grip, 5 accel, and high top speed). You tap the brake and turn in scremer, you do a superb drift, losing virtualy no speed. In RidgeR you have to let go accel, turn, tap brake, let go turn and accel, if you judge it right, you lose no speed, and can in fact gain speed. In RageR you have to let go accell, turn, accel and countersteer, in so doing, 90% of the time you are back down to about 70 from 140 no matter how well I time it.

cloudvii · July 21st, 2004

Most of the time i dislike racing games (i just like nfs2se) , but that move Samor made was one of the most wonderfull things i've seen ever in any game . I mean , look , he is challenging physical rules . I wonder if i can make these in nfs2se

. yeah i know

July 21st, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane-Sama

Not if you are using the car I use (1 grip, 5 accel, and high top speed). You tap the brake and turn in scremer, you do a superb drift, losing virtualy no speed. In RidgeR you have to let go accel, turn, tap brake, let go turn and accel, if you judge it right, you lose no speed, and can in fact gain speed. In RageR you have to let go accell, turn, accel and countersteer, in so doing, 90% of the time you are back down to about 70 from 140 no matter how well I time it.

seems I really have to play Screamer again now.

I think I drift differently in Ridge Racer, not sure... I always find it a little hard to write it down (when not playing).

Quote:

Most of the time i dislike racing games (i just like nfs2se) , but that move Samor made was one of the most wonderfull things i've seen ever in any game . I mean , look , he is challenging physical rules . I wonder if i can make these in nfs2se . yeah i know

thanks

...and nope, it's not possible in NFS2SE. You can have some fun using the handbrake but that's it.

**I-Chan** · July 21st, 2004

At least in RR Type 4 you can simply let go accel and hit it again with a drift car, it doesn't lose much speed. You have to time it quite carefully, though.

July 21st, 2004

Kane > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=139056

it LOOKS interesting at least..interesting enough to try it out

(there's also an initial D skin for it in that thread)

..and check the rest of the thread for some drift screenshots!

July 17th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Screamer Why is it I can't find any vaguely recent PC games of the calibre of this. I want to drift excessively round corners like in Ridge Racer and Screamer, but other than Initial D (who's drift is actualy surprisingly understated), I can't find any decent games like it. Anyone know of any? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

July 18th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Grv de-vowel'd Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Холандија Posts: 1,499	I'm with Kaiser on this. But to be honest, I haven't actually been looking for them since Screamer Rally either. __________________ Signed, --"Not young enough to know everything."

July 18th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Yeah, Sega Rally 2 was quite good. I might try out LFS. I was thinking about it after I heard you ranting about it. I don't even mind PS2/PSX/DC ones as I can still play them, but they are all heading Sim too. Last PSX racer I really liked was Rage Racer __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

July 18th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
F-3582 Back to regular business Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in Sachsen Posts: 3,242	What about MicroMachines? Or Bleifuß Fun? Well, at least the MicroMachines games had a very good drift factor. __________________ In a world without walls and fences - who needs Windows and Gates?

July 18th, 2004	#8 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	....Micromachines is a top down raccer. That's not really what I'm after. It's really gotta be camer strapped to the bumper stuff. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

July 17th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night Posts: 14,591	Screamer was one of those special games which comes out once in a really long while... other than Screamer 2 and Screamer Rally I haven't found a racing game like that on the PC. Quite hard to match...

July 18th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	well, it's not exactly like screamer , but you could try LFS. (lfs.racesimcentral.com) ...analog device required. and, yes, it's simulation-like, but it DOES feature a few very drift-friendly cars. Try the demo. It has the RWD cars, and they're the best for drifting.

July 19th, 2004	#10 (permalink)
Vanit Heretic Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia! Posts: 2,755	Haha thats cool... almost makes me want to play a racing game. Actually I think I have a copy of Screamer lying around somewhere. __________________ Click here to download my Sin and Punishment English translation.

July 21st, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Death Metal Fool Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: South Town Posts: 1,771	I had my beautiful copy of Screamer until, like, 5 years ago, when I lent it to a cousin of mine and the fecker never returned it to me since then. To this end, I barely remember what it was like. __________________ "It sure is pleasurable to live your dreams as long as possible, but reality sure has a way of jolting you to your senses eventually."

July 21st, 2004	#12 (permalink)
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night Posts: 14,591	Think of Ridge Racer mixed with Daytona USA and an unparalleled feeling of speed... that's Screamer for you.

July 21st, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	Screamer 1 yeah. Pretty good for its time, but really as Kaiser says, it's ridge racer mixed with daytona... btw, I think RR is faster (and better; but there weren't PS emus back then).

July 21st, 2004	#14 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	The drifting in Ridge Racer wasn't as fun as in Screamer. Rage Racer made it even worse, you slow down so heavily while drifting. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

July 21st, 2004	#15 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	screamer 1 = supergrip I like RR's drifting better than that... as for Screamer 2 and Rally, they're quite different, but have excellent drift; rally style. then there's NFSU, which does have drift, allthough it's not exactly like its done in screamer either. Midnight club 2 isn't good with drift, and the new racer Juiced seems to be capable but ruins it by using the sidewalk as as track borders. There are Dirt Track racing games that have excellent drift, but they're sims and based on wierd custom cars in sand pits that don't have any appeal (at least not to me). There are a few new rally games coming up ..maybe one of those will have what we're looking for (or maybe nfsu2) I think LFS might be too much sim and too slow for your taste btw, but be sure to at least give it a try ..so, that doesn't leave very much I'm afraid. There are a few free racing sims around for which people developed the 86 (I believe both netkar and racer have it) but I have no idea if it will drive like you want to; theyre probably simulation-like, meaning that it will probably be 'dull' for someone who likes arcade racing better. ..for now, replace the rap crap in NFSU with eurobeat; that's the closest you're gonna get (I think). At the very least it makes the game more enjoyable. Last edited by Samor; July 21st, 2004 at 12:33.

July 21st, 2004	#16 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Not if you are using the car I use (1 grip, 5 accel, and high top speed). You tap the brake and turn in scremer, you do a superb drift, losing virtualy no speed. In RidgeR you have to let go accel, turn, tap brake, let go turn and accel, if you judge it right, you lose no speed, and can in fact gain speed. In RageR you have to let go accell, turn, accel and countersteer, in so doing, 90% of the time you are back down to about 70 from 140 no matter how well I time it. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

July 21st, 2004	#17 (permalink)
cloudvii Emunext fanboy Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Cairo , Egypt Posts: 4,243	Most of the time i dislike racing games (i just like nfs2se) , but that move Samor made was one of the most wonderfull things i've seen ever in any game . I mean , look , he is challenging physical rules . I wonder if i can make these in nfs2se . yeah i know __________________ Fekra Online magazine Fekra Magazine Fekra Magazine readers Facebook group

July 21st, 2004	#19 (permalink)
I-Chan Ex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 3,085	At least in RR Type 4 you can simply let go accel and hit it again with a drift car, it doesn't lose much speed. You have to time it quite carefully, though. __________________ "I'm living in a dream I can't wake from" Core 2 Duo 6600 FSB 1066 \| 2048 MB DDR2 PC2 6400 800 MHZ \| NVIDIA 8800 GTS \| Sound Blaster Audigy 4 \| Seagate Barracuda 250GB SATAII+WD Caviar 250GB \| Dell 3007WFP-HC 30" Widescreen

July 21st, 2004	#20 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	Kane > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=139056 it LOOKS interesting at least..interesting enough to try it out (there's also an initial D skin for it in that thread) ..and check the rest of the thread for some drift screenshots!

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