Ice windale 2 vs boldars gate 2

aliofdoom · May 7th, 2004

I did finish BG 2 and I think it is awesome. Now I am playing ice windale 2 and all I can say is so fare so good.

The thing is that BGs runs with the second edition rules but on the other hand Ice windale 2 runs with the third edition rules. It took me some time to get use to that! First time I played it I took so much penalties I really had to start over.

In BG2 the story line was great and the interactions with your own party members such as romance and side missions was very cool giving the game more interest. But in ice windale 2 there is no interaction with other party members well as fare as I know because you make them all. And as I said before the story line is good so fare.
Also in Ice windale 2 the humans for the first time are comparable to other races.

The game play is basically the same in both games.
So which game would you prefer BG2 or ice windale 2?

kain425 · May 7th, 2004

bAldUrs gate 2

Kaiser Sigma · May 7th, 2004

Baldur's Gate 2 all the way, Icewind Dale is great but it's nothing more than a dungeon crawler while the other title is a full fledged RPG...

Evil_Matt · May 7th, 2004

Baldur's Gate 2 is much better then icewind dale 2

Frostmourne · May 7th, 2004

anyways ive played through both these games more than 5 times and i have to say that Baldur's Gate is the winner. it has more depth in the storyline and the characters are much more recognizable (Minsc rocks

)

Icewind Dale on the other hand is more action oriented and theres little in the story and characters. its also shorter compared to baldur's gate.

Exodus · May 8th, 2004

wow, quite possibly the most amazing display of typing skills seeing as how you butchered both titles. anyways, i'd say baldur's gate 2, but since you're banned, i guess you won't be caring anymore.

Nameless · May 9th, 2004

BG2, simply put. Although if these are the reasons u liked BG2, then I would just love to see how well it well stand up against good ol' Black Isle's masterpiece Planescape: Torment.

Also, I think IWD2 is a geat game as well. Sure it has nowhere the depth of the other two, but it's the best implantation of the 3rd edition rules IMHO. Plus it gives u the battlefield to try out all the advantages of different classes, races, and party makeups. Also, unless u're going to play BG from the first instalment 'till the throne of bhaal (no Kaiser, not all of us have that much time

), IWD lets u start the game from pathetic lvl.1. This IMO gives much more satisfaction when u see how strong your charecters became by the end and Heart of Fury mode is the best place to test it out.
I like to think of the IWD series (yes, I still the first has some charms over the 2nd) as the closest thing I'd get to playing an strategy game without puking (sorry Ali

).

Thats my 2cents anyway

sxamiga · May 9th, 2004

Didn't like the BG series for the PC. Didn't like Icewind Dale (the first one) for PC either. I do like Icewind Dale 2 for the PC and Baulders Gate: Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance II for the consoles. Same with Fallout and Fallout 2 for the PC, didn't like 'em at all. Do like and have Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel for both PS2 and X-Box. Can't say why it is this way with all these games, but for me, that is how it is.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Quatro · May 9th, 2004

Baldur Gates 2, no doubt about it...

Myconid · May 9th, 2004

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Originally Posted by sxamiga

Didn't like the BG series for the PC. Didn't like Icewind Dale (the first one) for PC either. I do like Icewind Dale 2 for the PC and Baulders Gate: Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance II for the consoles. Same with Fallout and Fallout 2 for the PC, didn't like 'em at all. Do like and have Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel for both PS2 and X-Box. Can't say why it is this way with all these games, but for me, that is how it is.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Damn you sure are a console lover.BG: DA and Fallout:BoS are half-products that were only made to make money ASAP,they are a disgrace to their PC version's.But then again that's just my opinion.

Kaiser Sigma · May 9th, 2004

I beg to differ, DA and BoS are the perfect hybrid between D&D and action RPGs; I don't know about BoS (I've only heard stuff about it) but DA1/DA2 are superb games. Just don't expect the same kind of gameplay as in the PC BGs, that's all.

Frostmourne · May 9th, 2004

Quote:

Didn't like the BG series for the PC. Didn't like Icewind Dale (the first one) for PC either. I do like Icewind Dale 2 for the PC and Baulders Gate: Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance II for the consoles. Same with Fallout and Fallout 2 for the PC, didn't like 'em at all. Do like and have Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel for both PS2 and X-Box. Can't say why it is this way with all these games, but for me, that is how it is.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

for the love of god could you people please get the game titles right. "Baulder's Gate"!?!?!

i really don't think Dark Alliance lives up to the standard of Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal. if your just in it for the graphics, than yeah, maybe its great. but as far as the storyline goes, Baldur's Gate 2 is a real winner.

Kaiser Sigma · May 9th, 2004

Yes and no. As I've stated above both games aim to a different game style. Plot wise I do agree that the PC versions are better by far, however gameplay it's a tie and sometimes I'm inclined to think that the console versions are somehow a bit more entertaining.
DA doesn't live to the standards of SoA/ToB but doesn't aim to do that either... that was pretty clear at the moment of the game's release, so comparisons are rather useless as they are two different worlds.

Frostmourne · May 9th, 2004

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so comparisons are rather useless as they are two different worlds.

yeah your right. not to mention that there is a 4 year gap between the release of the two games.

sxamiga · May 9th, 2004

Okay okay, so I never said I could spell. So sue me already, Frostmourne. Honestly, me'thinks that perhaps you make too big a deal of this.

Anyway, back to topic. Thanks Kasier for the kind words about BG DA and DA II. I agree w/you they are superb games. I'm not putting down the original Baldurs Gate games for the PC, not at all. If you all like them and perfer them over the others then that is just fine. I just don't is all.
Kaiser, if you feel that BG DA and DA II are "superb" games, then you really should take a look a Fallout: BOS. It is done in the same style as the BG DA games and if you like them I'm fairly certain that you will like it as well.
Myconid, yes, I do prefer console games over PC games. For some reason, I always have. I do have some PC favorites though. Diablo, Diablo II, Sacred, Dungeon Siege and the expansion, Get Medieval, and Neverwinter Nights are a few of my PC favorites. There are some others but the console ones far out number them. This is just the way it is for me. No real explanations here, just how it is.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Frostmourne · May 9th, 2004

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Okay okay, so I never said I could spell. So sue me already, Frostmourne. Honestly, me'thinks that perhaps you make too big a deal of this.

err i wasn't exactly mad at you. take a look at the main title of this poll and you'll get my point. sure my spelling isn't that great either. and ive played Fallout BoS and i really liked it.

Kaiser Sigma · May 9th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Frostmourne

yeah your right. not to mention that there is a 4 year gap between the release of the two games.

Maybe, but I really think it comes all down to the gameplay... D&D based RPGs don't appeal to console gamers as much as fast paced/action ones. I for one have played the BG saga (from BG1 to ToB) like 23 times (with different main character each time), still counting, and I'm still not fed up with it...

Nameless · May 9th, 2004

I think DOA and BOS are aimed at the more casual RPG gamer. I liked DOA alot since the multiplayer feature was quite unique. I do agree however with the idea that the name was put there to attract gamers (and their wallets)

I've yet to find a game from Black Isle or Bioware that I don't like. And if NWN2 is going in the same direction that Star Wars:KOTR went, then we're in for a great ride

Frostmourne · May 9th, 2004

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I for one have played the BG saga (from BG1 to ToB) like 23 times (with different main character each time), still counting, and I'm still not fed up with it...

yeah i know what you mean. iam currently playing SoA. which is your favourite character class? i really love being a Paladin in almost every game that has them. but it gets too easy as the Holy Avenger is one mother of a sword. i also enjoyed playng as a monk.

as for the bosses i really wasn't impressed by Iranicus. however i do enjoy killing Firkraag for obvious reasons

right now iam about nail Kangaxx the Demi's @$$

sxamiga · May 9th, 2004

Okay, I see Frostmourne. I apologize. Also I am glad to hear that you have enjoyed Fallout: BOS also. Did you know that after you complete the 3rd level you can unlock the Wanderer (the Vault Dweller player character from the orginal PC Fallout) and play him? I just recently found this out.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

View Poll Results: boldars gate 2 VS ice windale 2
boldars gate 2	18	72.00%
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May 7th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
aliofdoom aliofdoom Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: LA Posts: 148	Ice windale 2 vs boldars gate 2 I did finish BG 2 and I think it is awesome. Now I am playing ice windale 2 and all I can say is so fare so good. The thing is that BGs runs with the second edition rules but on the other hand Ice windale 2 runs with the third edition rules. It took me some time to get use to that! First time I played it I took so much penalties I really had to start over. In BG2 the story line was great and the interactions with your own party members such as romance and side missions was very cool giving the game more interest. But in ice windale 2 there is no interaction with other party members well as fare as I know because you make them all. And as I said before the story line is good so fare. Also in Ice windale 2 the humans for the first time are comparable to other races. The game play is basically the same in both games. *So which game would you prefer BG2* or ice windale 2?** __________________ victory to the hord

May 7th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
kain425 Hates the stupid consoles Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israhell Posts: 386	bAldUrs gate 2 __________________ sig larger than 25kb Personally its not God I dislike, its his fan club I cant stand P4@2.4//Gf4Ti4200 128mb//512ddr2700 3Dmark2001SE: 10581

May 7th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
Evil_Matt MASTER OF EVIL Join Date: May 2002 Location: A Dumpster Behind Walmart Posts: 255	Baldur's Gate 2 is much better then icewind dale 2 __________________ "I'm Back, But Evil Now!"

May 8th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Exodus Now the stars don't match Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Null Posts: 14,202	wow, quite possibly the most amazing display of typing skills seeing as how you butchered both titles. anyways, i'd say baldur's gate 2, but since you're banned, i guess you won't be caring anymore. __________________ No, I don't like anime, Street Fighter, Japanese music or download video game music. Yes, I know, I'm weird.

May 7th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night Posts: 14,591	Baldur's Gate 2 all the way, Icewind Dale is great but it's nothing more than a dungeon crawler while the other title is a full fledged RPG...

May 7th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
Frostmourne ^_^ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: India Posts: 620	anyways ive played through both these games more than 5 times and i have to say that Baldur's Gate is the winner. it has more depth in the storyline and the characters are much more recognizable (Minsc rocks ) Icewind Dale on the other hand is more action oriented and theres little in the story and characters. its also shorter compared to baldur's gate.

May 9th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Nameless r u really that bored? :P Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,925	BG2, simply put. Although if these are the reasons u liked BG2, then I would just love to see how well it well stand up against good ol' Black Isle's masterpiece Planescape: Torment. Also, I think IWD2 is a geat game as well. Sure it has nowhere the depth of the other two, but it's the best implantation of the 3rd edition rules IMHO. Plus it gives u the battlefield to try out all the advantages of different classes, races, and party makeups. Also, unless u're going to play BG from the first instalment 'till the throne of bhaal (no Kaiser, not all of us have that much time ), IWD lets u start the game from pathetic lvl.1. This IMO gives much more satisfaction when u see how strong your charecters became by the end and Heart of Fury mode is the best place to test it out. I like to think of the IWD series (yes, I still the first has some charms over the 2nd) as the closest thing I'd get to playing an strategy game without puking (sorry Ali ). Thats my 2cents anyway __________________ --To every problem, there is a solution (other than death, of course ). So, just smile!!.....okay that's a load of crap but you already know that. 3 years and still fighting!! Systems: - Modified Mac Mini: 2GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 100GB 7200RPM HD, Dual-Boot Mac & XP - HP Tablet PC TC1100: 1.1GHz Centrino, 1GB RAM, 60GB 7200RPM HD, Vista Ultimate

May 9th, 2004	#8 (permalink)
sxamiga I've Changed Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orangevale CA USA Posts: 298	Didn't like the BG series for the PC. Didn't like Icewind Dale (the first one) for PC either. I do like Icewind Dale 2 for the PC and Baulders Gate: Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance II for the consoles. Same with Fallout and Fallout 2 for the PC, didn't like 'em at all. Do like and have Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel for both PS2 and X-Box. Can't say why it is this way with all these games, but for me, that is how it is. sincerely, sx/amiga

May 9th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	Baldur Gates 2, no doubt about it... __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

May 9th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night Posts: 14,591	I beg to differ, DA and BoS are the perfect hybrid between D&D and action RPGs; I don't know about BoS (I've only heard stuff about it) but DA1/DA2 are superb games. Just don't expect the same kind of gameplay as in the PC BGs, that's all.

May 9th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night Posts: 14,591	Yes and no. As I've stated above both games aim to a different game style. Plot wise I do agree that the PC versions are better by far, however gameplay it's a tie and sometimes I'm inclined to think that the console versions are somehow a bit more entertaining. DA doesn't live to the standards of SoA/ToB but doesn't aim to do that either... that was pretty clear at the moment of the game's release, so comparisons are rather useless as they are two different worlds.

May 9th, 2004	#15 (permalink)
sxamiga I've Changed Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orangevale CA USA Posts: 298	Okay okay, so I never said I could spell. So sue me already, Frostmourne. Honestly, me'thinks that perhaps you make too big a deal of this. Anyway, back to topic. Thanks Kasier for the kind words about BG DA and DA II. I agree w/you they are superb games. I'm not putting down the original Baldurs Gate games for the PC, not at all. If you all like them and perfer them over the others then that is just fine. I just don't is all. Kaiser, if you feel that BG DA and DA II are "superb" games, then you really should take a look a Fallout: BOS. It is done in the same style as the BG DA games and if you like them I'm fairly certain that you will like it as well. Myconid, yes, I do prefer console games over PC games. For some reason, I always have. I do have some PC favorites though. Diablo, Diablo II, Sacred, Dungeon Siege and the expansion, Get Medieval, and Neverwinter Nights are a few of my PC favorites. There are some others but the console ones far out number them. This is just the way it is for me. No real explanations here, just how it is. sincerely, sx/amiga

May 9th, 2004	#18 (permalink)
Nameless r u really that bored? :P Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Saudi Arabia Posts: 1,925	I think DOA and BOS are aimed at the more casual RPG gamer. I liked DOA alot since the multiplayer feature was quite unique. I do agree however with the idea that the name was put there to attract gamers (and their wallets) I've yet to find a game from Black Isle or Bioware that I don't like. And if NWN2 is going in the same direction that Star Wars:KOTR went, then we're in for a great ride __________________ --To every problem, there is a solution (other than death, of course ). So, just smile!!.....okay that's a load of crap but you already know that. 3 years and still fighting!! Systems: - Modified Mac Mini: 2GHz Core Duo, 2GB RAM, 100GB 7200RPM HD, Dual-Boot Mac & XP - HP Tablet PC TC1100: 1.1GHz Centrino, 1GB RAM, 60GB 7200RPM HD, Vista Ultimate

May 9th, 2004	#20 (permalink)
sxamiga I've Changed Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orangevale CA USA Posts: 298	Okay, I see Frostmourne. I apologize. Also I am glad to hear that you have enjoyed Fallout: BOS also. Did you know that after you complete the 3rd level you can unlock the Wanderer (the Vault Dweller player character from the orginal PC Fallout) and play him? I just recently found this out. sincerely, sx/amiga

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