Black Isle Studios goes out with a bang

cutie · January 27th, 2004

Hi all. What the title of my thread means is that the last two games from Black Isle Studios are fabulous. The games I am talking about are Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. I purchased Baulder's Gate: Dark Alliance II last week when it was first available here where I live. I had preordered it from Game Crazy. This game is just Gorgeous. The backgrounds, the characters, everything. It is truly a credit to Black Isle Studios to have developed such a game. As for Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, it is available at Fry's Electronics and as soon as I can afford it I am going to get it. It looks superb (from the pictures on the box) also. This really says something since I am not interested in the other Fallout games. But I certainly am interested in this one. It is truly a pity that Interplay closed down Black Isle Studios especially after two such wonderful games as these. One simply must wonder what they (Interplay) were thinking at the time. Anyway I just wanted to share this with all of you and I highly recommend that any on you that like Black Isle Studios or these types of games take a look at these two games as soon as possible.
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Xinu0 · January 27th, 2004

They closed it down? either this is new or I need ginkobaloba(probably the latter). Anyways, I was meaning to check ot BG

ark Allliance 2 as soon as there is a used one at the local gamestop. I might just have to check out Fallout too. Thanks.

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cutie · January 27th, 2004

Hi all. Yes Xinu0, Interplay has definately closed Black Isle Studios. For a while there was some question as to whether or not this was actually true or not but now it is definate. Black Isle Studios is closed.

You are welcome for the news though. Yes I would definately recommend that you take a look at these two games as soon as possible.
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Sampah · January 27th, 2004

is BG dark alliance II released on Xbox? I never saw BG dark alliance I or II on PS2, but I know DARK ALLIANCE Is released on PS2.

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Xinu0 · January 27th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Sampah

I never saw BG dark alliance I or II on PS2,

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Originally Posted by Sampah

but I know DARK ALLIANCE Is released on PS2.

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Dark Allinace is 1. 2 was just released. For PS2. Maybe Xbox. Go check out www.gamespot.com

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N1ghtw0lf · January 27th, 2004

that sucks...i love black sile games...specifically icewind dale...

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**Kellicros** · January 27th, 2004

Yeah, it is pretty sad. Fallout series is my favourite computer RPG. I guess we won't see another Fallout in future. Well, I actually hate that they spent their time on Fallout: BOS instead of making Fallout 3 and I did give BOS a try but no, I don't like it at all.

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bcrew1375 · January 27th, 2004

You guys are absolutely sure? I've heard that those were just rumors and Interplay said Black Isle was still open.

Edit: Oh, I just read cutie's second post. So, you got that from a reliable source? If they did shut down, that sucks.

Quark · January 27th, 2004

Interplay is using stupid semantics to help hide the truth. They have one or two workers left from the BIS division, and own the rights to the name. Thus, legally, they can say BIS is still open even though they got rid of everyone :P

didamangi · January 27th, 2004

I'm really sad that this is the kind of games that Black Isle released for its final game, to quote rpg codex article:

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But, of course, it was not to be. Any Fallout fan worth his salt really hates Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, known as "FOPOS" or "Fallout: Enforcer" in referece to the action spinoff that killed X-Com. But beyond FOBOS being horrible, there's an extra good reason to hate it:

It killed Fallout 3.

http://www.rpgcodex.com/content.php?id=94

To me the fallout series manages to transform itself from being a wondeful unique rpg series to a mediocre blast and shoot game (yes I unfortunately have tried FOBOS).

Sad news for PC RPG fan frankly

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Grv · January 27th, 2004

Yes, those who love Fallout for the CRPG it is, hate FOPOS with a passion. I never have and never will try it, because I'm not interested in this tainted game.

Furthermore, the most informative site regarding Fallout, games a-like, rumors/facts/hope around Fallout 3 or something similar, can be found here. It has an excellent FAQ regarding the Van Buren project (Fallout 3), a board where quite some BI members used to frequent, and much much more.

Anyway, this post means I don't think Brotherhood of Steel is fabulous at all. Sorry cutie, but I myself don't think it ended with a bang. More like a dead man's whimper, in my humble opinion. I'm glad atleast someone enjoyed it though.

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cutie · January 28th, 2004

Hi all. That is fine if some of you did not like Fallout Brotherhood of Steel like I do. Perhaps I should not have gushed so about it but I am a woman and that seems to come naturally for me sorry.

As for Buldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II I truly feel that it is all that I say it is.
Sampah, Buldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (the first one) is available for Playstation 2, GameCube and X Box but Bauldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II (the second one) is only available for Playstation 2 and X Box. It is not available now and I do not think it will be at all for Game Cube.
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Grv · January 29th, 2004

I don't see how you being a woman has anything to do with what you said

Anyway, I heard BG: DA2 was pretty good, but it's unlikely that I will play that game aswell. I never played any BG game and never felt like trying so far, hence the lack of interest for this new title. However, I'm glad to hear that the BG fans aren't being disappointed

I have one question regarding Baldur's Gate though. How much of everything that is Baldur's Gate is Black Isle's? I thought Bioware had it's share in it aswell. Excuse my ignorance, if any.

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sxamiga · April 24th, 2004

I know this is an old thread, so please excuse me for reviving it. The reason I did was to mention that I just, a few days ago, got Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. I was putting off getting this game because i did not like the first 2 Fallout games for PC, at all. But I decided to give Fallout: BOS a try since it was on a console. I was surprised when I found out that it plays very much like BG Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance 2 which I throughly enjoy. It is like a futuristic modern version of those games. So I would recommend that for those of you who enjoy BG Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance 2 you consider giving Fallout: BOS a try as well. If you like those games, you are almost certain to like this Fallout as well.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Lobo · April 24th, 2004

Fallout is still being worked on - though in what capacity I'm not sure. There was some news from Interplay regarding the fact...

http://pc.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/6133/

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Fallout 3 Revived
By Mike Meikle -- News Writer
Published 7:32 PM CDT, April 15, 2004

In a surprise announcement, Interplay's CEO has stated that Fallout 3 will be published.

Herve Caen, CEO of Interplay, announced yesterday that Fallout 3 is on Interplay's publishing radar. This is a very surprising announcement, since the game was all but given its last rights after the shut down of Black Isle Studios.

Mr. Caen stated further that the game is not currently in development, but a third party developer will be picking up the work in the near future. He stated that an announcement will be forthcoming that will further detail the development plans for the game.

Fallout 3 development has been fraught will difficulty. Last year Feargus Urguhart and JE Sawyer, the top folks behind Black Isle and Fallout 3, left the developer. This was followed a few months later with Interplay pulling the plug on Black Isle and Fallout 3's development entirely.

So do not lose heart.

As a side note Fallout: BoS stinks compared to the real Fallouts, Black Isle Studios did NOT work on Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel (14° East & Microforte did) and Black Isle Studios did NOT work on Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel (console game, internal interplay team worked on that).

EDIT: Also if you guys like these kinda games check out Champions of Norrath on the PS2. If you think BG

A2 looks pretty, you'll be shocked by this one. The textures are something you usually only expect to see on the xbox...it's crazy.

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Hunam85 · April 24th, 2004

Fallout: BOS, where im from, that is the original fallout community (most angry community every) we shun this BOS/POS lark...

sxamiga · April 26th, 2004

You are correct about Champions of Norrath for the PS2. I have it and it is everything you say it is and more. An excellent game.
As for Fallout: BOS, you all may not like it, but I do and yet I do not care for the original Fallouts at all. Nor Fallout Three when/if it comes if it is done the same as Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.
sincerely,
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Zer0Soul · April 26th, 2004

"Interplay execs also talked about other older games that they are looking to reviving for new games, including Decent, Earthworm Jim and Dark Alliance (which won't have a connection with the Dungeons and Dragons universe due to Atari having the rights to that franchise) and a new Fallout game similiar to the PS2-Xbox title that was released earlier this year). A new Baldur's Gate title is now out of Interplay's hands due to the loss of the D&D license. A revival of Fallout 3 is not currently being worked on but news on that title is expected soon. However, the conference call cautioned that future plans for game will be tied to getting more financing, which they are hopefully they will receive soon."

...The Dark Alliance bit, kinda makes me disappointed. I really can't see a DA game now without it set in the Forgotton Realms. It's what initally brought me to the series. Now, they want to keep the series going by creating a new universe. If they are smart they will change name of the series.

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permethium · May 21st, 2004

Gosh, i'm feverently hoping that we wil see a release of fallout3. fallout 1 and 2 are probably two of the best games i ever played in my whole life. i mean isn't there a way to
to make Interplay understand that the fallout series actually had a huge following? :akimbo:

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January 27th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
cutie A new look Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Antelope, California USA Posts: 97	Black Isle Studios goes out with a bang Hi all. What the title of my thread means is that the last two games from Black Isle Studios are fabulous. The games I am talking about are Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II and Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. I purchased Baulder's Gate: Dark Alliance II last week when it was first available here where I live. I had preordered it from Game Crazy. This game is just Gorgeous. The backgrounds, the characters, everything. It is truly a credit to Black Isle Studios to have developed such a game. As for Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, it is available at Fry's Electronics and as soon as I can afford it I am going to get it. It looks superb (from the pictures on the box) also. This really says something since I am not interested in the other Fallout games. But I certainly am interested in this one. It is truly a pity that Interplay closed down Black Isle Studios especially after two such wonderful games as these. One simply must wonder what they (Interplay) were thinking at the time. Anyway I just wanted to share this with all of you and I highly recommend that any on you that like Black Isle Studios or these types of games take a look at these two games as soon as possible. cutie __________________ I am gone (the picture of me) for now.

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Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 949	They closed it down? either this is new or I need ginkobaloba(probably the latter). Anyways, I was meaning to check ot BGark Allliance 2 as soon as there is a used one at the local gamestop. I might just have to check out Fallout too. Thanks. __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM

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January 27th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
cutie A new look Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Antelope, California USA Posts: 97	Hi all. Yes Xinu0, Interplay has definately closed Black Isle Studios. For a while there was some question as to whether or not this was actually true or not but now it is definate. Black Isle Studios is closed. You are welcome for the news though. Yes I would definately recommend that you take a look at these two games as soon as possible. cutie __________________ I am gone (the picture of me) for now.

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Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 886	is BG dark alliance II released on Xbox? I never saw BG dark alliance I or II on PS2, but I know DARK ALLIANCE Is released on PS2. __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2

January 27th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
N1ghtw0lf Crasher of Castles Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 6,970	that sucks...i love black sile games...specifically icewind dale... __________________

January 27th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,719	Yeah, it is pretty sad. Fallout series is my favourite computer RPG. I guess we won't see another Fallout in future. Well, I actually hate that they spent their time on Fallout: BOS instead of making Fallout 3 and I did give BOS a try but no, I don't like it at all. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

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bcrew1375 "Insert witty title here" Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 1,050	You guys are absolutely sure? I've heard that those were just rumors and Interplay said Black Isle was still open. Edit: Oh, I just read cutie's second post. So, you got that from a reliable source? If they did shut down, that sucks.

January 27th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
Quark Has an extra GOTO 10 Line Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 250	Interplay is using stupid semantics to help hide the truth. They have one or two workers left from the BIS division, and own the rights to the name. Thus, legally, they can say BIS is still open even though they got rid of everyone :P

January 27th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Grv Translator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Холандија Posts: 1,521	Yes, those who love Fallout for the CRPG it is, hate FOPOS with a passion. I never have and never will try it, because I'm not interested in this tainted game. Furthermore, the most informative site regarding Fallout, games a-like, rumors/facts/hope around Fallout 3 or something similar, can be found here. It has an excellent FAQ regarding the Van Buren project (Fallout 3), a board where quite some BI members used to frequent, and much much more. Anyway, this post means I don't think Brotherhood of Steel is fabulous at all. Sorry cutie, but I myself don't think it ended with a bang. More like a dead man's whimper, in my humble opinion. I'm glad atleast someone enjoyed it though. __________________ Signed, --"Not young enough to know everything."

January 28th, 2004	#12 (permalink)
cutie A new look Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Antelope, California USA Posts: 97	Hi all. That is fine if some of you did not like Fallout Brotherhood of Steel like I do. Perhaps I should not have gushed so about it but I am a woman and that seems to come naturally for me sorry. As for Buldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II I truly feel that it is all that I say it is. Sampah, Buldur's Gate: Dark Alliance (the first one) is available for Playstation 2, GameCube and X Box but Bauldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II (the second one) is only available for Playstation 2 and X Box. It is not available now and I do not think it will be at all for Game Cube. cutie __________________ I am gone (the picture of me) for now.

January 29th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Grv Translator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Холандија Posts: 1,521	I don't see how you being a woman has anything to do with what you said Anyway, I heard BG: DA2 was pretty good, but it's unlikely that I will play that game aswell. I never played any BG game and never felt like trying so far, hence the lack of interest for this new title. However, I'm glad to hear that the BG fans aren't being disappointed I have one question regarding Baldur's Gate though. How much of everything that is Baldur's Gate is Black Isle's? I thought Bioware had it's share in it aswell. Excuse my ignorance, if any. __________________ Signed, --"Not young enough to know everything."

April 24th, 2004	#14 (permalink)
sxamiga I've Changed Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orangevale CA USA Posts: 298	I know this is an old thread, so please excuse me for reviving it. The reason I did was to mention that I just, a few days ago, got Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel. I was putting off getting this game because i did not like the first 2 Fallout games for PC, at all. But I decided to give Fallout: BOS a try since it was on a console. I was surprised when I found out that it plays very much like BG Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance 2 which I throughly enjoy. It is like a futuristic modern version of those games. So I would recommend that for those of you who enjoy BG Dark Alliance and Dark Alliance 2 you consider giving Fallout: BOS a try as well. If you like those games, you are almost certain to like this Fallout as well. sincerely, sx/amiga

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Hunam85 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 36	Fallout: BOS, where im from, that is the original fallout community (most angry community every) we shun this BOS/POS lark...

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sxamiga I've Changed Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orangevale CA USA Posts: 298	You are correct about Champions of Norrath for the PS2. I have it and it is everything you say it is and more. An excellent game. As for Fallout: BOS, you all may not like it, but I do and yet I do not care for the original Fallouts at all. Nor Fallout Three when/if it comes if it is done the same as Fallout 1 and Fallout 2. sincerely, sx/amiga

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Zer0Soul Souless Angel Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Close to Nowhere Posts: 900	"Interplay execs also talked about other older games that they are looking to reviving for new games, including Decent, Earthworm Jim and Dark Alliance (which won't have a connection with the Dungeons and Dragons universe due to Atari having the rights to that franchise) and a new Fallout game similiar to the PS2-Xbox title that was released earlier this year). A new Baldur's Gate title is now out of Interplay's hands due to the loss of the D&D license. A revival of Fallout 3 is not currently being worked on but news on that title is expected soon. However, the conference call cautioned that future plans for game will be tied to getting more financing, which they are hopefully they will receive soon." ...The Dark Alliance bit, kinda makes me disappointed. I really can't see a DA game now without it set in the Forgotton Realms. It's what initally brought me to the series. Now, they want to keep the series going by creating a new universe. If they are smart they will change name of the series. __________________ Currently Playing: Kindgom Hearts 2, Crimson Sea 2, Dynasty Warriors 4: Empires, Baiten Kaitos, & Lunar DS

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permethium Translator Join Date: May 2004 Location: Shady Sands Posts: 329	Gosh, i'm feverently hoping that we wil see a release of fallout3. fallout 1 and 2 are probably two of the best games i ever played in my whole life. i mean isn't there a way to to make Interplay understand that the fallout series actually had a huge following? :akimbo: __________________ AMD Athlon 64x2 5000+ @2.6ghz\|4Gb DDR800 \| X-Fi extreme \| Sapphire Radeon HD4850 512Mb \| Asus 690G \| WinXP x64 To know is to Live