what is the difference between megaman and megamanx

[nintenman]

i've hered there is a difference can anyone tell me the difference. thanks

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I dont know if this right or not, but AFIAK, Megamax X takes place years after Megaman
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[Proto]

Well... its been long since my Megaman fanboyism but from what i remember the last 2 robots from Dr Willy were Zero and King (who mega man destroys in mega man 9) And Dr Light last creation was X himself, an improved version of Mega Man. But Doctor Light decided that X had too much power to be controled, so he let him to sleep. Instead, after King was defeated, Willy awakened Zero, his masterpiece. However, Zero went havoc, and killed everyone, including the Doctors and the old Megaman himself.

After that i dont remember if zero just dissapeared or went to sleep.

After some decades, Dr. Cain found the sleeping X, who he awakened and started studiyng. From this model, he started his own creations, which he named as the Mavericks, being the most powerful of them Kaiser Sigma. Here i had a lil lapsus, but i think Cain also found Zero and awakened him, but before that, he cleaned him of an evil virus Willy had left on him. However, this virus after leaving Zero, managed to infect all the Mavericks, including Sigma, and then its when Mega Man X1 story starts i think.

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[Narrrf]

so whatever happened to protoman? sorry, last megamans were megaman 8 and x4. haven't gone beyond that, and haven't even touched those 3d megaman series.

but from what i remember, sigma was originally a good guy, and zero was the bad guy. it had a little anime clip in x4 where zero faces down sigma. I think zero was still wrecking havoc before that. don't know what happened after that.

it's up to x6 by now, right?

[Carmofin]

storywise the difference would be like this:
the old megaman was a robot, that was strictly restricted to its program. megaman is NOT able to kill humans, clearly shown at the end of one game where he isnt able to shoot Dr. Wily even though he wants it so much.
Dr. Light at some point had the idea for a new AI-program, that would allow his creations to think freely and make their own decissions. this project turned out to be megaman x, who he put down to rest for a few decades so his AI could develop.
megaman games are about defeating Dr. Wilys newest creations, even though interesstingly the first game was about destryoing Dr. Lights own robots, that Dr. Wily had reprogrammed (infected with a virus? )
megaman x games are about fighting reploids, which were built copying X's plans. However, they all get infected by the mysterious sigma virus one after the other, which is said to be one of Dr. Wilys last creations.
Gameplaywise X-games are much faster paced then the original series, allowing more freedom in movement and lately adding close combat in the form of a playable zero

[cloudvii]

so what happened to protoman and bass and that electronic dog with mega man . and mega man himself .

i'm not good with mega man stories because i finished the 1st game only

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[Player-X]

In terms of gameplay MegamanX(Other than the crapfeast named MMX7) is a bit faster tham Megaman,there are more moves you can perform and the boss weakness weapons nullfy the boss attack rather than just do more damage

[op3n_skill]

i remember in MegaMan 8, Rush (Megaman's dog) was killed...

About Protoman, Bass and Treble, i dont know....

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[Kidd]

Actually, being the immense fangirl I am, after reading the small story recaps I found errors in them and also things that are common theories - but nothing more than theories.

It all starts with Dr Light and Willy working on a new kind of robots. Their first creation is Protoman (Blues in the japanese version), whom they decide is too chaotic and hard to program, so they leave him deactivated. Light and Willy creates Rock and Roll, household robots - along with 6 robots that are able to work better than any human could ever work.

Willy steals these robots and reprograms them to start his scheme to take over the world. Light converts Rock into the fighting robot Megaman (Rockman in the japanese version) whose one purpose is to stop Dr Willy. Megaman stops Dr Willy's plans over and over again, and even getting him into prison once, but Dr Willy keeps coming back. In Megaman 7 Dr Willy has created a Megaman of his own, and names him Bass. Bass also has his own version of Rush, who is called Treble (Forte and Gospel in japanese). In Megaman Power Battles we hear that Dr Willy is creating a new robot that will surpass Bass by far. And this is where the series' start intertvening...

Zero is created by Willy, and he is yet to be finished at the end of Megaman 8.5 (called Megaman & Bass on the GBA, also avaliable as a japan-only release called Rockman & Forte on snes, it's often seen as Megaman 9, though Capcom themselves have said it is not Megaman 9 - it's actually Megaman 8.5).

-at this point in time, the unannounced Megaman 9 takes place, along with any more games in the series-

Dr Light's final creation is Megaman X (Rockman X), whos AI has yet to be properly tested. Dr Light creates a capsule that will emulate every single possible event and run X's AI through it to ensure that X would never want to harm a human being and also - function correctly. X is found by Dr Cain who tries to replicate X; the copies are called Reploids. Somewhere around this point in time we have Zero living again - we have no idea what happened between his completion and X1, even though it's widely believed that Zero killed the host of Megaman Classic (the question then remains: what caused Zero to stop if he killed everyone?).

Zero is infected with a virus (or his sole purpose might've been this virus, we don't know) that turns the Reploids into Mavericks (Irregulars in the japanese version), yet the virus' ability to spread is severly handicapped - it's not spreading fast at all, even though it is a scary thing indeed that it DOES spread. Maverick Hunters are created to stop the Mavericks. The leader of the Maverick Hunters is a brilliant design of Reploid called Sigma (not Kaiser Sigma, just Sigma). Sigma himself attacks Zero and is almost killed in the process, but after his fierce battle with Zero he is infected with the virus.

As Sigma spreads the virus a lot faster than Zero ever did, the Maverick Hunters now stand overwhelmed and lacking a leader. Dr Cain, who recieved a non-functioning Zero as a last gift before Sigma turned Maverick, reformats Zero and leaves him with no memories of his former self. Zero's fighting capabilities are incredible, and he ends up saving X from the Maverick called Vile at the beginning of X1. He tells X that he has no chance against a Reploid/Maverick that is designed for battle, as X was made for a peaceful future. X decides that to save mankind and reploids alike from the Mavericks' onslaught, he will have to become stronger.

And well... that's where X1 kicks in, heh heh.. after the X series comes the Zero series, and 500 years after the Zero series comes the Legends (Dash in japan) series.

We don't know what happened to Protoman, Bass and Treble, even though it's most likely that they died at the hands of Zero (at least they should be dead by now - how could such an outdated design survive in a world filled with mavericks?).

Oh yeah, and about "Kaiser Sigma", that happens to be the name of the battle body that is created by Dr Doppler for Sigma in Megaman X3.

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[Carmofin]

I like the fact that in the end the Reploids will win and totally annihilate humanity :>
too bad capcom isnt able to finish their stories properly so we will never actually get to see it

[Kidd]

Uhm... X7 was released just a few months ago, so how can you know that we will never see the end of the X series just because Classic hasn't ended yet?

Btw, it's the Mavericks, not the Reploids :P you get to hear quite a bit about it all in Megaman Zero...

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[Carmofin]

because its capcom
and in mega man zero humans still are in control.

[Kaiser Sigma]

Originally Posted by Kidd

We don't know what happened to Protoman, Bass and Treble, even though it's most likely that they died at the hands of Zero (at least they should be dead by now - how could such an outdated design survive in a world filled with mavericks?).

Actually I think that the answer on what happens to them (or a hint at least) might reside on the arcade Mega Man game, power battles (or something like that). A fighting game where you could choose MM, Protoman or Bass as the fighters and then you battled against enemies from the different MM titles... supposedly MM dies on that game or something similar happens...

As for updated... I really have my doubts, Bass was quite powerful, specially when he merged with Trebble. And Protoman survived lots of times (heck, they even split him in two in MM9) so I wouldn't be surprised if he were still alive...

Originally Posted by Kidd

Oh yeah, and about "Kaiser Sigma", that happens to be the name of the battle body that is created by Dr Doppler for Sigma in Megaman X3.

Actually the name is Sigma alone, Sigma's battle body in MMX3 takes the name Kaiser Sigma (darned mugglers stealing my name...). But his name's Sigma, not KS.

[cloudvii]

well , i hate the idea of killing mega man (the original) by the hands of Zero .

grrr ... this conversation made me in to megaman games , i'll finish them all to get all the endings .

btw , there is a neogeo pocket game that has megaman power battles 1 & 2 .

does it have something to the story ?

and what happened to Willy and Light ??

is rush really dead , i liked him in the anime .

and what happened to that cute robot with mega man (roll , i think)

and what's that zero series and dash series , r they rumors ???

i never heared of them

i'm confused , i never knew megaman series has that kind of deep story plots

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[Kidd]

Megaman Zero consists (so far) of two games on the GBA and Megaman Legends (Rockman Dash in japan) has two games on the psx - this series seem discontinued just like Megaman Classic.

Originally Posted by Kaiser Sigma

Actually I think that the answer on what happens to them (or a hint at least) might reside on the arcade Mega Man game, power battles (or something like that). A fighting game where you could choose MM, Protoman or Bass as the fighters and then you battled against enemies from the different MM titles... supposedly MM dies on that game or something similar happens...

MM died? The only thing I remember that was slightly interesting was Dr Willy saying that he was working on "a new and far superior robot" (obviously Zero), I don't know how I could forget something as important as Megaman getting slain.. I'll have to finish the game with all characters again :P

Originally Posted by Kaiser Sigma

As for updated... I really have my doubts, Bass was quite powerful, specially when he merged with Trebble. And Protoman survived lots of times (heck, they even split him in two in MM9) so I wouldn't be surprised if he were still alive...

I think their designs are printed in Rockman Perfect Memories - there's translations going around on the net, shouldn't be too hard to find 'em... you don't have to read more than half a page to realize that the old Megaman Classic androids doesn't stand even the slightest chance against the weakest of reploids... yes, Storm Eagle would pwn Bass to bits, and that's not even mentioning Zero... btw, it's still not MM9, it's MM8.5 :P there is no number attached to the title for a reason - it looks plain dumb.

Originally Posted by Kaiser Sigma

Actually the name is Sigma alone, Sigma's battle body in MMX3 takes the name Kaiser Sigma (darned mugglers stealing my name...). But his name's Sigma, not KS.

Uhm... your point being..? That's what I said... that that's the name of the battle body in X3 created by Doppler, not Sigma himself...

Originally Posted by Carmofin

and in mega man zero humans still are in control.

Sorry, I was on drugs (well not really, but hey) - you're more than right on this one, heh heh. Don't know what I was smoking, seriously.

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[Kaiser Sigma]

Originally Posted by Kidd

MM died? The only thing I remember that was slightly interesting was Dr Willy saying that he was working on "a new and far superior robot" (obviously Zero), I don't know how I could forget something as important as Megaman getting slain.. I'll have to finish the game with all characters again :P

I never finished the game, I've only heard that such thing happens (hence why I've said "supposedly").

Originally Posted by Kidd

I think their designs are printed in Rockman Perfect Memories - there's translations going around on the net, shouldn't be too hard to find 'em... you don't have to read more than half a page to realize that the old Megaman Classic androids doesn't stand even the slightest chance against the weakest of reploids... yes, Storm Eagle would pwn Bass to bits, and that's not even mentioning Zero... btw, it's still not MM9, it's MM8.5 :P there is no number attached to the title for a reason - it looks plain dumb.

Says who ? MMX on his normal form in game one isn't that different from MM, Bass or even Protoman you know... besides Bass was way stronger than the normal androids, it's not unlikely to think that he could hold his own ground against reploids.
Since there's no real proof that MM&Bass ain't MM9 I don't see why I shouldn't address it MM9

Originally Posted by Kidd

Uhm... your point being..? That's what I said... that that's the name of the battle body in X3 created by Doppler, not Sigma himself...

Avoiding a wrong mix between Kaiser Sigma (me) and Sigma like the one in here:

Originally Posted by Protoman

After some decades, Dr. Cain found the sleeping X, who he awakened and started studiyng. From this model, he started his own creations, which he named as the Mavericks, being the most powerful of them Kaiser Sigma.

It was always Sigma, not KS

[Demigod]

The story of Megaman from what I've heard is as follows.

Dr. Light and Dr. Wily were two scientists who worked together to create a new breed of robots, ones who can think creatively and independently as well as possessing morals and feelings. The first prototype was Blues (Protoman). He was originally designed to be a welder (thus the shield and blast-shield). However, he was lost due to some accident and Dr. Light and Dr. Wily created a clone of him called Rock (Megaman) as well as Roll and the other 6 robots in the first game. However, at this point Dr. Wily took possession of the robots and ran off, planning to use the robots for his own evil ends. Only Rock (and maybe Roll) managed to resist the reprogramming and avoid capture. Having a strong sense of justice Rock volunteered to be converted into a fighting robot and defeats Dr. Wily. Defeated, but not dejected, Wily created more robots in his efforts to defeat Megaman.

At about the time of Megaman 3 Blues makes his entry into the series. After his disappearence he was found by Dr. Wily who convinced him to fight on his side. Blues battles Rock a number of times but is hesitant to fight, seeing as how Rock is his own brother (technically his twin). It's at this time that Rock comes to the knowledge of his brother.

In Megaman 5 Dr. Wily attempts a bold new plan. He realizes the bond between Blues and Rock and decides to use it to his advantage. He therefore frames Blues by setting up an imposter to act as a criminal. The imposter Blues kidnaps Dr. Light and terrorizes the city. Rock once again goes into battle but is unable to fight his brother (imposter) and is nearly killed. He is saved by the true Blues and Dr. Wily's plan is uncovered. Needless to say, Blues is no longer allied to Wily and goes off by himself for a while.

In Megaman 7 we see the entrance of two new characters into the Megaman universe, Treble and his counterpart Bass. Treble is a new type of robot, more advanced than any before him and he frees Dr. Wily from jail. The two battle it out a number of times but Treble is unable to defeat Rock. Rock defeats Dr. Wily again and has had enough of his troubles and decides to kill him. However, Treble intervenes and carries the doctor away to safety. Dr. Wily considers Treble a failure and works on an even more advanced robot, and the last of his creation: Zero. Zero would be a special design. He would be many times more powerful than any of his other creations but he'd also be able to spread his code to other robots (the Zero virus). With Zero Wily was confident he would finally be able to defeat Rock.

Dr. Light is only too aware of Dr. Wily's plans though and to counter the Zero project Dr. Light upgrades Rock with a new program. Project X is the world's only chance of combatting Zero but is unfinished during the lifetime of Dr. Light. The idea behind Project X is a robot compatible with any future technologies, a robot of infinite upgrade potential. However, Dr. Light realizes a potential danger in his design and decides to test his capabilities in a capsule. He does not live long enough to know the result but leaves traces of his image behind to assist X in the future.

Dr. Wily finally finalizes the Zero project but something went wrong. Zero was rebellious and non-responsive and wasn't completely stable. He wreaked havoc everywhere he went and finally had to be dealt with by the Maverick Hunters. None were a match for him but the leader of the Maverick Hunters, Sigma finally managed to defeat him (but only by an internal error with Zero). After the battle he orders Zero be taken to Dr. Cain for testing and reprogramming. Soon afterwards Sigma turns into a Maverick (he was infected with the Zero virus when he fought Zero) and defects from the Maverick Hunters.

Dr. Cain had found the sleeping X and had reprogrammed him and woken him up. He does the same for Zero and they both join the Maverick Hunters. It's immediately noticeable that X and Zero are different from the other reploids. Neither conform to reploid standard and no one can understand their design (Dr. Cain was the closest to it). Zero quickly climbs the ranks but X struggles, unable to realize his full potential. However, as time passes X becomes more and more powerful, becoming one of the primary hunters in the force.

Meanwhile Zero keeps having nightmares of his past and is haunted by some unknown feeling. The Maverick Hunters also come to be aware of an inherent danger in Zero (although they don't know his link to the Sigma/Zero virus) and decide to keep a close watch on him.

*The next statement is a branch scenario*

Zero eventually turns into a Maverick and battles X. X is unconscious after the battle and Sigma comes in for the killing blow but Zero saves him.

By the end of the battle both Zero and X are destroyed. However, X returns mysteriously, although the fate of Zero is unknown.

That's about as far as I can tell you. I haven't played Megaman X6 yet (although I have it) so I may be missing some parts in the end.

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[MaZa]

I remember that Protoman was actually almost prototype of X (not directly, cuz he was built before ordinary megaman.) He was supposed to have free will, (and he had one) but he became bit selfish. Luckily he was neutral and didnt possess no threat against megaman nor Willy, except in megaman 5 where willy framed him. He had to interfere to clean his name. In megaman 3 he was just testing megamans fighting skills and helped him little bit (Gemini mans stage). This is what i heard.

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[op3n_skill]

One thing i read from your posts, none mentioned MM8.... just curious...

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[cloudvii]

can any one give the full mega man games list ?

i mean all the games in terms of appearance

and if a game have 2 versions (like mmx on snes and pc) tell me which one to play and what's the difference .

i'm going to finish them all

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