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First pics of KOF2003 + character list

http://www.neogamez.com/steven/newchars2k3.jpg

character list

New Hero Team: Ash, *New*, *New*
Garou Team: Terry, Griffon, Joe
Outlaw Team: Billy, Yamazaki, Gato
Japan Team: Benimaru, Shingo, Daimon
K' Team: K', Maxima, Whip
AOF Team: Ryo, Robert, Yuri
Ikari Warriors Team: Leona, Ralf, Clark
Female Team: King, Mai, Mary
Female Team 2: Athena, Hinako, *New*
Korea Team: Kim, Chang, Jhun

Solo: Kyo, Iori


Gato is teamed with billy and yamazaki ??!!!

japan team misses Kyo

King is back

2 female teams !!

Chang without Choi

Kyo and Iori as single entries as in KOF99


some sprites from the game (i think , but not sure)

http://newdump.wwwpuntocom.com/PRIIMG/k2.png

http://newdump.wwwpuntocom.com/PRIIMG/yamazaki2k3.png

http://newdump.wwwpuntocom.com/PRIIMG/garou2.png



and from another source i got this list

Solo Entries: Kyo Kusanagi and Iori Yagami

New Hero Team: Ash Crimson, Duoron, Shen Wu

Garou Team: Terry Bogard, Joe Higashi, The Griffon

Art of Fighting Team: Ryo Sakazaki, Robert Garcia, Yuri Sakazaki

Korea Team: Kim Kaphwan, Chang Koehan, Jhun Hoon

Ikari Warriors Team: Leona Heidern, Ralf Jones, Clark Steel

Outlaw Team: Gato, Billy Kane, Ryuji Yamazaki

Female Team: King, Mai Shiranui, Blue Mary

Japan Team: Benimaru Nikaido, Shingo Yabuki, Goro Daimon

Female Team 2: Athena Asamiya, Hinako Shijou, Marin

New NESTS Team: K', Maxima, Whip



another pics

http://www.neogamez.net/public/fotonoti/KOF2K3.jpg

http://www.neogamez.net/public/fotonoti/KOF2K32.jpg

Another not proved sprite

http://newdump.wwwpuntocom.com/PRIIMG/ryo.gif



from another source i got this info .

Hiroaki is doing the ingame artwork .
Hiroaki is the artist responsible for Snk vs Capcom : chaos and KOF2002 ingame artwork .


this is a report made by a player who attended the public beta test .

called Spankee .

so i went to the loke test and stuck round for about 2 hours...

it was chock full of ppl of course... all the regs from monte carlo sitting on the floor in front of the big screen lapping it up. flyers and a few posters with all the staff from across the road ive seen the last couple of times..

o yeah 1st up metal slug 5 seems to be out here now.. is that old news?

anyways..

initial impression... WTF happened to the new system.... and this is like a 99 feel with very artistic backgrounds that each have different color ranges and an england 99 feel to them. all the characters seem to have added frames here and there at the minimum

it would be like this from my first impression:

totally new sprites (new chars)
redrawn sprites and or just a new outfit
touched up with new frames or added frames..
possible rips

so in group one is : ash, dyuoron (duron in eng), shen u, malin,
tizoc...

group two : yama (looks totally redrawn and has a feel similar to his artwork from 02/03 (i cant remember the artists name now but the guy who drew for svc..), billy is either redrawn or just a new outfit (sorta leather with flames highlighting the arms and legs of his pants and jacket), kyo (new outfit sorta more mature terry motw look but the sprite itself seems to just be his previous one), athena (new outfit only it would seem), beni (only a slightly new outfit with his shirt cutoff or something.. he looks a little dif... oh yeah his hair seems to bend back near the top or something..)

group three is evyone sept those below

group four : terry and gato
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next up backgrounds i spotted

the stages i saw today are:

1. on top of a building, looks sorta like the on top of a building stage from rbff2 (which i like ) only better. there is lots of neon in the background and a big neon neogeo sign as well.. sorta kool with a bit of garbage fluttering around as movement from memory... nice use of bright blue and black as the color scheme

2. looks like venice.. the centre of the stage is a big clock face at street level with a street on the right that slopes down and the one on the left sloping up.. lots of ppl watching with 2 guys manipulating puppets in the background.. really nice use of oragne and red.. bright look.

3. a fairground on train lines.. think the three train lines drawing closer to each other as they stretch to the horizon line ala kof 98 but only the far left one has a train on it.. ppl with balloons.. kids and parents.. lots of activity and a bright blue sky and green grass... nice use of blue and light green

4. a japanese temple at night with the middle of the screen being japanese poplars lit up by huge traditional japanese paper lanterns.. in the bg on the left you can see a traditional japanese castle...

5. a mayan/aztec temple... lots of moss covered stones with nice use of greens and browns.. the middle is a huge pyramid temple with a closer one on the left side where you can see each individual stone.. the stone looks really well done..there are some birds perched on the stones in the background

6. a dock, somewhere in south america it would seem with a few locals wearing sombreros (think kof 95 water stage) stiing on the dock.. on the left is a big wall (again aztec looking) and a temple behind it in the distance... two boats are moored at the dock moving up and down with the currents...again blue and bron..

7. venice street at night.. greenish lights and darkened streets completely devoid of ppl, movement...

so i like the backgrounds a lot.. much better than 01 or 02 (i thought 02 was ok but not exceptional) better than svc also imo.. feels like 99 to be honest..

next up
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game system

*one timer for the whole round... only one round easy to get a time out BUT they are testing the time.. it swung from super long to super short last loke test so dont worry unnecessarily

*FREAKYYYYYYYYYYY 3 energy bars that rep three chars.. the one that stands out (not looking faded) is the current character..
super stocks down the bottom and an "ok" lamp that indicates tagging in is ok

*oh yeah ****ING TAGGIN ala mvc2.. looks doable coz it isnt tekken style.. oh no i wasted my character type tagging.. they have tag in attacks (like a cd counter or something) and tag juggles.. i see this guy using malin throw yoyos (the yoyos sit there ala soggy fbs and then tag in ash and throw a green fireball with her for fun..

*dash as usual

*roll as usual

*cd counter as usual

*tag in when the lamp is lit using bc or cd

*tag attack is bc or cd +fb motion with a stock used or free if the tag lamp is lit

*throw as usual (yeah only one button)

*throw reversal as usual (same button as the throw)

*breakfall/mid air recover ab as before

*quick get up ab as fall..

next up
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characters new moves and general impressions

random bits:

*when a character dies they fall over and their body fades away like theyve been beamed up by the enterprise.. looks sorta cool

*k has an air fb

*when you super you are surrounded by a pink spinning ring sorta like the old guys card attack in ninja masters and there is a screen flash (pitch black) ala svc..

*king has a fireball where she drop kicks it low with her foot, looks cool

*mai has a new super where she does the realbout pray and fire sprouts from her body.. this is a huge gout straight up though that does lotsss of damage

*gato has a tung style dashing punch which adds on the end of his palm attack (fb+punch) cant remember if he had this in garou...

*beni has a move where he arcs a hand up and brings it down with pink electricity covering the hand.. looks good and seems to be continuable ala ioris three punch move..

*malin is hinas sister (or she looks it at least in her clothes etc) she is a mixture of choi (with the air dash attacks.. saw a guy classic choiing with 2 forward one back), may lee (attitude and hiphop/raver style) and with a yo yo.. she can throw at least two yoyos out and let them sit there spinning..

*ash looks very kula is with the green energy fb and a kula style dp which is kicks instead of punches...

*shen looks and has moves similar to rock.. he wears a jacket unbuttoned and sorta looks like a crazier k9999.... (mixed with kula style kicks and sprite)

*duron looks like a female zero with the same cape (it may not be zero might be the guy after him in 01??) and stands in a snake stance...

*all three members stand on the screen at the start of a round..

thats about all at this point.. plan to spend a half day there again this thursday as im at work tue , wed.. ill actually have a go too..
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Ever heared of the edit button (multiple posts are so annoying just make one big post instead) ... I'll bet Kane whill post his big arrow to edit button pic here soon.

But still nice to see some KOF2003 pics.
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Aye, use the freakin edit button cloud. You dont have to triple post. I merged all your posts now.

As for the game,...why isnt Andy Bogard on the list?

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Who cares for Andy? He's an a**hole

Ikari fighters all the way (well, in fact I usually play with Ralph, Terry and Mai ).

Anyway, it's about time for the release of KoF2003. We're waiting for it
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Geez, so far so good... wonder if they will release it on the DC again ?
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sorry .

but i didn't want to make it that big and i was searching then posting

sorry my mistake

and i made a typo the main hero isn't stefen , his name is ash .

but i was chatting with stefen while posting so i typed stefen instead of ash



edit1:and Elly u didn't join the post in right order

i'll just fix it

edit2:new pics released
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/svc/277_1.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/svc/276_1.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/svc/273_1.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/svc/278_1.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/svc/275_1.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/svc/274_1.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/svc/279_1.jpg
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~d_evil/svc/245_1.jpg
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Who cares for Andy? He's an a**hole

Ikari fighters all the way (well, in fact I usually play with Ralph, Terry and Mai ).
I cant imagine a KoF with either Terry, Mai or Andy. Those three where one of the original characters. Missing one of them wont make the game feel the same, at least for me :/

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Andy's place was Fatal fury

but even that , he was taken out from garou . (just as a cameo at hokutoumaru's ending (can't remember the spelling)
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hm? I thought kof2k3 was going to be made on atomiswave hw?
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no it's now on neogeo mvs

then ofcourse on neogeo aes

rumors about ps2 and dc release
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hm? I thought kof2k3 was going to be made on atomiswave hw?
...NeoGeo just REFUSES to die !!
(or rather, they won't let it... ).
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Good, good... now we just need the same to happen with the DC
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Yay, they brought back my favorite character, King.
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well . ps2 version won't be released till kof 2002 is released for ps2 (it only have 2001)

while dc have kof2002 , 2001 , 2000 . 99 . 98 .



but ps2 have SVC : Chaos , and DC doesn't


edit1: a new report , that i translated from spanish to english with google (not a very good translator)

El game system: KOF' 2003 is a TAG!
You choose 3 personages, selecting to lider of equipment for each cokills. The 60 combats are of secondes. If lider it is defeated, the equipment loses. It is possible to be changed in the heat of battle of personage pressing B+C or C+D. The chosen personage as to lider desire an extra attack (like in the TOP SYSTEM of Garou: MOTW).
Wheel with A+B. The Guard Breaks with A+B or C+D.
3 to power gauges of maximum with 3 personages, 4 with 2, and 5 if it is not more than one.

2.Los Heads:
Final:RDEL head (he makes genocide cutter and they repuken them without the hands, nor the feet)
Mid-Boss 1: Maki (sister of Chizuru) and Chizuru Kita (Kagura)
Mid-Boss 2: Zannen (a horseman) and Day (a species of Rock)
Challengers: Kyo & Iori

Old personages appear in the scenery: Kula, Mars People, Kasumi, Jin Fu-Ha, Hotaru Futaba...

3.Los personages:

Many old personages (with at least a new attack by each personage), and many new ones.

- Single Entry:
Kyo: It has a new jacket, and a new voice. It is a mixture between 95 Kyó and Kyó 2002 (it has fire balls).

Iori: It has not changed of clothes. Their eyes are black, with the white pupils!

- hero New team: The names of the main personages: Ash, Dyuron, and Shen Wu. Parece that these three personages use the power of the Dragoon... (pensad in Beam 2001).
The names of many tecnicas of Ash come from the French revolición:

Ventose
Vendemiaire
Nivose
Pluviose
sans-culottides

Profile of Ash:

Ash Crimson
Style of fight: own, it uses special fire
Birthday: 14 of February
Height: 1.78 ms
Weight: 59kg
Sanguineo group: Or
3 sizes (lol): Stranger
Birthplace: stranger (crio in frania)
hobby: Nails...
Appraised object but: Nails...
Favorite food: zahhatorute (eaten sweet)
Things that hate: Boring and little interesting things
Sports: none

Ash has an attack to the Sonic Boom, and another one to the Saumersault. It seems that Snkplaymorev is going to have to Remy in the KOF'.

Semble Il that Ash soit I threw d'un chanteur Japonai du nom of Kana san

Dyuron seems to be a Ron/Long, without chewed it of ninja.

- K' Team:
K ': A new attack in the air, to air to trigger; And a new power, heaven's drive.
Maximum: Maximum it seems to be less powerful. The Maximum Beam seems that it leaves facilmente but.
Whip: It seems not to have improvements, only a power.

- Garou Team:
Terry: His sprite is not the same one that the one of Garou, but it wears the same clothes well that in Garou.
The Griffon: Idem.
Joe: It has new voice.

The scenes that I have seen [ which ] remembers

1. In the roof of a building, it is looked much like the RBFF2 scene in which you play in the top of a building (Which pleases to me). [ are several neon announcements fluorescent tubes I suppose ] at heart, and a great Neo-Geo announcement. It has been left them very well the effect of sweepings floating in the atmosphere. Good use of the tonalities and blue and black brightness like schemes of colorful.

2. Seemed to Venice. There is a great clock in the center of the scene, are two streets: the right inclines downwards and the left inclines upwards. At heart a marionette show are baryes people seeing. Good use of orange and the red one, luminous Vista.

3. A place to recreate in the routes of the train [ WTF ] . It imagines three lines of railroad approaching the one the others as they approach the skyline, single line of the left has a train. People playing soccer, parents and children. Much activity, a blue sky, fresh and green grass. Pretty green combination of blue and the clear one.

4. A Japanese temple at night. In means of the scene there are trees illuminated with the traditional Japanese giant lamps of paper. At heart to the left you can contemplate a traditional Japanese castle.

5 a Mayan or Aztec temple. A good use of green and the brown ones in the many moldy stones that there are in the scene. In means there is a great pyramid, near her, to the left, is another pyramid where you can see each one of individual stones [ WTF ]. The stones are very well done are some birds in stones at heart.

6. The wharves or the port. It seems some place of South America by the hats that are sold in the premises (imagínate the scene of the water in KoF 95). To the left there is a great wall (with an Aztec dot) and a distant temple. There are two boats moored in the wharf, moving due to the waves and the current. Combinations of blue and brown.

7. The streets of Venice at night. Greenish lights and dark streets, completely barber's bowls.


edit2:Check the official character profiles
http://www.snkplaymore.jp/official/k.../team_top.html


edit3: I got this from another forum

Rock's back was supposedly visible in the OP
Game starts->1->2->3->KUSANAGI->4->5->6->Last Boss (Kusanagi's the midboss)
Background appearances: Kula, Mars People, Fuha, Hotaru, Kasumi

Bosses:
Kusanagi (with 3X the health of a normal character)
Chizuru
Maki (Chizuru's Partner. Stronger than Chizuru)
Zangis (Mounted Warrior? With Zero's skills?)
Dias (As a resemblance to Rock? Throws an invisible fireball?)
Adel (Similar moves to Rugal. His younger sister appears with him. Like Kusanagi he has 3X the health of a normal character)
Arja (Adel's younger sister? Can transform into a Mars People apparently)



And
Oh, Kusanagi is supposed to be a mirage created by Chizuru.

Maki and Chizuru are a "team" so they attack you at the same time. Same with Zangis (he looks like a Knight supposedly) and Dias.

And I heard from one place that Adel is a midboss like Kusanagi though I can't confirm that. Most likely you fight all those guys in the end.



And



From what I've known, it is slightly different: you fight 3 matches, than Kusanagi as a mid-boss (he is an image created by Chizuru's mirror). Then you fight 3 more matches, and then you fight a Tag of Diaz and Zangisu. Diaz looks like Rock, and Zangisu is some sort of knight with moves similar to Zero's. IF YOU WIN THAT BATTLE, you get to fight Adel, who has moves similar to Rugal's, include some sort of Genocide Cutter and a Reppuken thrown with the feet. And, IF YOU DEFEAT ADEL you get to fight his little sister, Aja, who transforms into a monster that looks SIMILAR to Mars People (but it's not him).


And

OK, http://finito-web.com/earth/2003.htm has been updated...

Apparently Dias and Zangis are gone and replaced by someone by the name of Mukai.

Apparently he shows up when Chizuru and Maki are defeated, and has 3 health bars as well.

The description for Ajah is gone though her name's still there. Not sure what that implies.



in my opinion , things r getting so mad , replacing bosses with other bosses may be a rumor or may be SNKPlaymore has really done it (anyway it's a puplic beta test)

edit4: another info is here

Okay, here it goes:

It seems that the Zangisu and Dias info were false. Not confirmed, though.

Maki, Chizuru's sister, is indeed dead. The one that fights alongside with Chizuru is an illusion created by the mirror.

So, it goes like this: 3 teams, then Kusanagi, then 3 more teams, then Chizuru and Maki, then Adelbeid, and then Adel's sister (don't even know if her name is Aja anymore).

BTW, not only does Adel looks like Rugal, has a Genocide Cutter and a "feet Reppuken", but the place you fight him in is called the Sky Noah. To those who don't remember, Rugal's ship was called the Black Noah.



from here , i can't detect where is the rumors and where is the right thing

and SNKPlaymore isn't giving much info .

as an advice , just believe pics , news from the official SNKPlaymore web site only

http://www.snkplaymore.co.jp
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Well, new KOF is great. But I'm still disappointed with the decision to keep it on the NeoGeo. This grand series will continue to stagnate until all credibly is lost.

Here is an example.

Let's take Final Fantasy for instance. Say in 1997 Square Soft released FF7 on Super Famacom (SNES or whatever you like)

Did anyone still use that console on regular basis after they had a Playstation? (Or N64 and Saturn) Not many, now let's say a new game for that system cost you about $350 new. Would you pay that? Even for Final Fantasy?

Would the Game Play still be fun? Likely.

Would the Music still have the same impact? Possibly.

Would the Graphics astonish us? No, but at least they would be as good as FF6 or Chrono trigger.

Would the Story still make us feel the same way? Yes and No. as good as the story was it really needed that extra push of Sound and Visuals to give us that WOW! Factor.


Still like the sound of this? How about on the Famacom (NES)


Would the Game Play still be fun? I liked FF1-3 so yeah I guess.

Would the Music still have the same impact? No! Not even with the Konami hi-quality sound chip.

Would the Graphics astonish us? No, unless you are from the 16th century.

Would the Story still make us feel the same way? If you have a good imagination

Still willing to forfeit $350? (And you all know how much that is in yen )


I'm not trying to bash or putdown classic games. In fact I play my old Famacom, (NES, SNES) games whenever I have time (Rare) or when I need something simple to relax. But when I spend time and money on a game I don't want to feel cheated.

You: But Katsuya, What about KOF3D/Neo.

I don't believe the evolution of games is naturally 3D (But if it works...) I believe true improvements can be made in 2D or any another type of dimension you put a game in.
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let's make this again .

u r trying to compare a 3d game with a 2d one .

ff7 is great on ps , nice on snes , good on nes .

but ...

kof is a 2d game that many fighters rn't having much gfx improvements over it

and kof 99 is a good proof for good animation of kof .

and the best 2d games in gfx r

garou : motw

sf3 : third strike

sfa3

last blade 2

(with some new games like : rage of the dragons and matrimelee)

that's for fighting games , if we added the rest of 2d games then we can just mention (metal slug) which isn't that good in gfx part

no other good gfx in 2d games by now concepts .



and ...

who said i'll pay 300+$ for kof games , when i can just buy it for DC or PS2 or even PSX and saturn (old ones)



SNKPlaymore is getting the most income from arcades , and only super fans will buy the original NEOGEO cartridge .



and i'm not trying to attack ur opinion .



umm... btw , i think u r japanese , right ?

if so , can u give us photoes from the public test , plz

i mean , if u go there



and Katsuya , i thought that u r a KOF fan from ur past threads .


edit1: official poster
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Old November 19th, 2003   #17 (permalink)
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Re: First pics of KOF2003 + character list

Well i somewhat agree with those who don't like the idea of KOF being still on NeoGeo. I think if they made the transition to Hi-rez it would attract more fans. I have a friend who think KOF sucks just because of the graphics. Yeah...he's an idiot, but there are lots of idiots out there and they spill a lot of cash, cuz they break CDs and stuff...
I mean look at how much Britney Spears and limp bizkit sells (used to sell...)
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Originally Posted by cloudvii13003

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u r trying to compare a 3d game with a 2d one .
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No, I’m just comparing the concept.

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ff7 is great on ps , nice on snes , good on nes .
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You can’t know that For sure…

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kof is a 2d game that many fighters rn't having much gfx improvements over it

and kof 99 is a good proof for good animation of kof .

and the best 2d games in gfx r

garou : motw

sf3 : third strike

sfa3

last blade 2

(with some new games like : rage of the dragons and matrimelee)

that's for fighting games , if we added the rest of 2d games then we can just mention (metal slug) which isn't that good in gfx part no other good gfx in 2d games by now concepts .
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I’m not sure exactly what you’re trying to say. But no real improvements have been made to KOF since 1996

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who said i'll pay 300+$ for kof games , when i can just buy it for DC or PS2 or even PSX and saturn (old ones)
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I didn’t say you would. and what makes you think it will always get a port?

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SNKPlaymore is getting the most income from arcades , and only super fans will buy the original NEOGEO cartridge .
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Not true. Most of their income is from computerized gambling machines.

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and i'm not trying to attack ur opinion .
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That’s good but I don’t think you fully understood it. (My English isn’t always the best)

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umm... btw , i think u r japanese , right ?

if so , can u give us photoes from the public test , plz

i mean , if u go there
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Never been to one.

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and Katsuya , i thought that u r a KOF fan from ur past threads .
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And who said I’m not? Just because I don’t agree with everything a company does, doesn’t mean I don’t Enjoy King of Fighters.

anyway thanks for the info cloud
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Re: First pics of KOF2003 + character list

my english isn't the best either



and if snkplaymore is getting most income from gambling computerized arcades , they would have put it in the main section of it's web site .



and i'm not sure that snkplaymore will port it's games , but since ff1 they r porting to other consoles .

many companies ported their games to various systems , first it was Takara , then Agetec .

and i'm sure if agetec is gone , other companies will port .



(ps , btw , good idea of quoting , like this . it's much faster , specially for several quotes .)
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Old November 20th, 2003   #20 (permalink)
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well, sorry but they should really start using better hardware.
But its understandable; with capcom being very inactive on the 2d fighter dept. atm, snkplaymore almost has their own little monopoly on 2D fighters. they dont even have to be real good.
But seriously, I think they're overdoing it now, these games become increasingly less interesting.
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