price tags...

May 20th, 2003

...so, still not knowing what, or even IF I'm going to buy a console (afterall I already spent a considerable amount of money on pc upgrades and the question is, do I really 'need' a new console on top of that), I went to the stores to check out the prices of various consoles in the Netherlands....ok, xbox doesnt really interest me, so we count that one out for now... ps2 is of course the main attraction, but it has a 250 euros price tag for just the console+no game and 270 for the console + free game... I'm telling you, that's still a rather significant amount. then I saw the cube...2 packages...just the console for 200 euros and platinum cube with wind waker and bonus disc, ALSO for 200 euros.... is the cube that much worse that it's so much cheaper ..? I dont think so, personally.... Of course, its all very tempting... but maybe the best thing to do is enjoying splinter cell, mgs2 and dtm race driver (oh, and kof online) on my pc first and look again later... I do feel it's a bit ridiculous how I can wonder about getting a console yet I didnt even finish my recently purchased PC games yet...and there are several upcoming pc games on my "wanted" list already as well...

Galway no Sora · May 20th, 2003

It's depend on you, what game you want to play, then you think the console. It's a BIG wrong if you choose the console, and then choosing the game after that

May 20th, 2003

naturally...fact is, on virtually any system there are a number of really cool games I'd like... price DOES make a difference too, of course..

**Dark Watcher** · May 20th, 2003

Samor...if price is an issue...then look at PS2...We know the console appears to be a little higher in price, but the investment is good for one reason...

Sony has no concerns about proprietary formats, and they have stakes in the DVD / CD industry...this translates to them being able to market games under their "Greatest Hits" line for far cheaper then a GC game. We are not sure about UK side, but here the G-hits line costs $19.99 with some retailers selling for less. Quality games for cheap

We own both consoles, and are pleased with both, but Nintendo is still growing their library and are still stubborn about bringing down the prices of their older games...hell the initail release Luigi's Mansion can still run you $30 USD

May 20th, 2003

what are pc game prices over there, DW? because that's another thing; of course PC hardware is way more expensive than buying a console, but the games are 10 to 20 euros cheaper (at least here they are; an euro is comparable with a dollar nowadays)...
A new ps2 game is 60 or sometimes even 70 euros, whereas a new pc game tends to cost 40-50 euros. I havent checked GCN game prices. old PS2 titles are for sale at 20 euros....

**Dark Watcher** · May 20th, 2003

Depending on the age of the PC game..for example new games can cost up to 50-60USD, and older games can be far cheaper...hmm...for example we picked up Septerra Core which was bundled with some other mech game for $10USD

same shpeal though...we recall the PC version of Grand Theft Auto being $10-15 cheaper the the PS2 version in its hayday

Exodus · May 20th, 2003

i just buy computer games. sure, i don't get to buy many RPGs (which is my favorite genre), but i seem to be dealing rather well with not having a nextgen console.

May 21st, 2003

well, what do you know; just today (not kidding) they lowered the ps2's price to 199 euros as well..

May 21st, 2003

k...and I've been this close to buying one today...but I didn't.
I have my reasons.

**Shiori** · May 21st, 2003

You got a date soon?

Hehe...

Hmm, 199 euros... just over $200... i'd have taken the bait if I were you.

May 21st, 2003

actually I dont think so.

Did you buy a laptop and a month later a pc upgrade?

..not to mention a couple of new games... it's very tempting indeed to get a ps2 but in my case I find it a bit uncalled for. Besides that there are enough pc games coming out that will keep me (and my wallet) occupied.

**DarkAurora** · May 21st, 2003

I'm gonna pick up a Cube today or tomorrow for two reasons: One that it's cheaper than PS2 and comes with a game plus the difference I'm saving will leave me enough money to buy Capcom Vs. SNK 2(EB Games is selling it for only $20!). 2nd reason is that I want Soul Calibur 2 with Link in it (Bring on the flames

).

May 21st, 2003

no flames needed; allthough I dont think he fits in personally I DO think he's the coolest extra character nonetheless...

**DarkAurora** · May 21st, 2003

His look doesn't fit in with Soul Calibur 2 but from the screenshots I've seen, his moves will definetly fit in.

May 21st, 2003

I can't comment on that; personally I think you'd have to see that in motion...

Exodus · May 21st, 2003

don't forget, buy a new console will mean you'll be lured in to buy that many more games. at least this way, your options are limited to PCs

May 21st, 2003

yup...that was one of the reasons ^^;

May 22nd, 2003

I think Samor, if you are having second thoughts about buying a console, then I would say that your sub concious mind is trying to reach your concious mind and tell it something. From what it you've said, it seems as if you've been listening to your subconcious mind and I would continue to do so if I were you. Anytime you have second thoughts about something (like buying a console) there is usually a very good reason for the second thoughts and it is best to listen to them.
Also, Galway no Sora, I agree with your staement 100%. Good point.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

May 22nd, 2003

thanks sxamiga; that's exactly what it is.

Exodus · May 22nd, 2003

i wish i would have listen to my subconsious when i bought a genesis for $100 right before it died...

May 20th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	price tags... ...so, still not knowing what, or even IF I'm going to buy a console (afterall I already spent a considerable amount of money on pc upgrades and the question is, do I really 'need' a new console on top of that), I went to the stores to check out the prices of various consoles in the Netherlands....ok, xbox doesnt really interest me, so we count that one out for now... ps2 is of course the main attraction, but it has a 250 euros price tag for just the console+no game and 270 for the console + free game... I'm telling you, that's still a rather significant amount. then I saw the cube...2 packages...just the console for 200 euros and platinum cube with wind waker and bonus disc, ALSO for 200 euros.... is the cube that much worse that it's so much cheaper ..? I dont think so, personally.... Of course, its all very tempting... but maybe the best thing to do is enjoying splinter cell, mgs2 and dtm race driver (oh, and kof online) on my pc first and look again later... I do feel it's a bit ridiculous how I can wonder about getting a console yet I didnt even finish my recently purchased PC games yet...and there are several upcoming pc games on my "wanted" list already as well...

May 20th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Galway no Sora ~¤ PanZeR ¤~ idRO Thor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Valhalla, in Odin's throne Posts: 3,145	It's depend on you, what game you want to play, then you think the console. It's a BIG wrong if you choose the console, and then choosing the game after that __________________ Core 2 Duo 1.6 GHz «» 2048MB DDR2 RAM «» 256MB onboard Graphic Onboard Realtek High Definition Soundcard «» 160 + 40 GB SATA HDD Pioneer DVD±RW «» 15.4" Widescreen LCD «» Windows Vista Ultimate Sucks ha? Yeah, that's a laptop for sure.

May 20th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,898	Samor...if price is an issue...then look at PS2...We know the console appears to be a little higher in price, but the investment is good for one reason... Sony has no concerns about proprietary formats, and they have stakes in the DVD / CD industry...this translates to them being able to market games under their "Greatest Hits" line for far cheaper then a GC game. We are not sure about UK side, but here the G-hits line costs $19.99 with some retailers selling for less. Quality games for cheap We own both consoles, and are pleased with both, but Nintendo is still growing their library and are still stubborn about bringing down the prices of their older games...hell the initail release Luigi's Mansion can still run you $30 USD __________________

May 20th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,898	Depending on the age of the PC game..for example new games can cost up to 50-60USD, and older games can be far cheaper...hmm...for example we picked up Septerra Core which was bundled with some other mech game for $10USD same shpeal though...we recall the PC version of Grand Theft Auto being $10-15 cheaper the the PS2 version in its hayday __________________

May 20th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
Exodus Now the stars don't match Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Null Posts: 14,426	i just buy computer games. sure, i don't get to buy many RPGs (which is my favorite genre), but i seem to be dealing rather well with not having a nextgen console. __________________ No, I don't like anime, Street Fighter, Japanese music or download video game music. Yes, I know, I'm weird.

May 20th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	naturally...fact is, on virtually any system there are a number of really cool games I'd like... price DOES make a difference too, of course..

May 20th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	what are pc game prices over there, DW? because that's another thing; of course PC hardware is way more expensive than buying a console, but the games are 10 to 20 euros cheaper (at least here they are; an euro is comparable with a dollar nowadays)... A new ps2 game is 60 or sometimes even 70 euros, whereas a new pc game tends to cost 40-50 euros. I havent checked GCN game prices. old PS2 titles are for sale at 20 euros....

May 21st, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	well, what do you know; just today (not kidding) they lowered the ps2's price to 199 euros as well..

May 21st, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	k...and I've been this close to buying one today...but I didn't. I have my reasons.

May 21st, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	You got a date soon? Hehe... Hmm, 199 euros... just over $200... i'd have taken the bait if I were you. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

May 21st, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	actually I dont think so. Did you buy a laptop and a month later a pc upgrade? ..not to mention a couple of new games... it's very tempting indeed to get a ps2 but in my case I find it a bit uncalled for. Besides that there are enough pc games coming out that will keep me (and my wallet) occupied. Last edited by Samor; May 21st, 2003 at 17:47.

May 21st, 2003	#12 (permalink)
DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,735	I'm gonna pick up a Cube today or tomorrow for two reasons: One that it's cheaper than PS2 and comes with a game plus the difference I'm saving will leave me enough money to buy Capcom Vs. SNK 2(EB Games is selling it for only $20!). 2nd reason is that I want Soul Calibur 2 with Link in it (Bring on the flames ).

May 21st, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	no flames needed; allthough I dont think he fits in personally I DO think he's the coolest extra character nonetheless...

May 21st, 2003	#14 (permalink)
DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,735	His look doesn't fit in with Soul Calibur 2 but from the screenshots I've seen, his moves will definetly fit in.

May 21st, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	I can't comment on that; personally I think you'd have to see that in motion...

May 21st, 2003	#16 (permalink)
Exodus Now the stars don't match Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Null Posts: 14,426	don't forget, buy a new console will mean you'll be lured in to buy that many more games. at least this way, your options are limited to PCs __________________ No, I don't like anime, Street Fighter, Japanese music or download video game music. Yes, I know, I'm weird.

May 21st, 2003	#17 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	yup...that was one of the reasons ^^;

May 22nd, 2003	#18 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	I think Samor, if you are having second thoughts about buying a console, then I would say that your sub concious mind is trying to reach your concious mind and tell it something. From what it you've said, it seems as if you've been listening to your subconcious mind and I would continue to do so if I were you. Anytime you have second thoughts about something (like buying a console) there is usually a very good reason for the second thoughts and it is best to listen to them. Also, Galway no Sora, I agree with your staement 100%. Good point. sincerely, sx/amiga

May 22nd, 2003	#19 (permalink)
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	thanks sxamiga; that's exactly what it is.

May 22nd, 2003	#20 (permalink)
Exodus Now the stars don't match Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Null Posts: 14,426	i wish i would have listen to my subconsious when i bought a genesis for $100 right before it died... __________________ No, I don't like anime, Street Fighter, Japanese music or download video game music. Yes, I know, I'm weird.

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