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Raiden01 · May 1st, 2003

i just read an artical somewhere about procesors and the ps2 procesor and aparently the ps2 procesor is better than an ordany pc processor even tho it 240mhz. the only reason pentium show procesor in mhz and ghz is becuase they havent evolved them that much e.g it all well and good having a 2.3ghz but it the giger flops that count more the ps2 has a 6 giger flop procesor but a normall pc has a 3 giger flop procesor and acourding to rumours the ps3 will have a 100 or 1000 giger flops procesor clocked at 4.0ghz. so realy procesor dont advanced i dunno now im confuses LOL :confused:

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**fivefeet8** · May 1st, 2003

It's because, most processors in consoles aren't "CISC" cpus.. They are "RISC" cpus.. Different type of technology from the "CISC" chips we use.. Both amd and intel cpu's are "CISC" cpus.. RISC cpus have better floating point processing.. Hence they are very well suited for gaming..

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Zapages · May 1st, 2003

now come on PS3 will not be 4.0 ghz... Please Sony just hyping their system to take down competition away from Xbox or the next Nintendo Console. Also didn't the PS2's hype kill the Dreamcast in a way*1 factor*.

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kain425 · May 1st, 2003

a pc's cpu has to do a million and one things as oposed to a console cpu that has to do about 3 things at a time (im exjurating to make my point) hence a console pcu can be very specilized and a pc cpu has to be able to do everything. the gaming IPC of a console cpu is highyer but its still low considering the low clock

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**Kane** · May 1st, 2003

A specificaly designed chip will always be better than a similarly clocked generic chip.

The PS2 was designed from hte ground up to be an extremly efficient gmaing machine. The problem that arose however is that developers used to working with PC style architectures took (are taking) a long time to get to grips with it.
In theory, it's quite possible that the PS2 (low clock, but pure console architecture) could beat the X-Box (Brute force, relatively low IPC) if it were programmed correctly, but who really knows.
Sony will be sticking with this architecture for the next generation of PS, IIRC.

You may wonder why if this is so good, why PCs don't use the same architecture. There are three main reasons for this:

PCs are a modular system (I feel like replaceing my CPU today. I might change my graphics card tomorrow), the PS2's architecture relys on it being a fully integrated system
PCs are general purpose machines. Switching to a multimedia optimised architecture would destroy performance on productivity apps
Legacy support. Switching architecture breaks legacy support

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May 1st, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Raiden01 RaZoR (The Manic Cow!) Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 789	A Litlle CoNFusEd!! i just read an artical somewhere about procesors and the ps2 procesor and aparently the ps2 procesor is better than an ordany pc processor even tho it 240mhz. the only reason pentium show procesor in mhz and ghz is becuase they havent evolved them that much e.g it all well and good having a 2.3ghz but it the giger flops that count more the ps2 has a 6 giger flop procesor but a normall pc has a 3 giger flop procesor and acourding to rumours the ps3 will have a 100 or 1000 giger flops procesor clocked at 4.0ghz. so realy procesor dont advanced i dunno now im confuses LOL :confused: __________________ What is real? How do you define real?, if real is what we touch, feel then reall is nothing but electrical signals interprited by your brain. PC SPEC Gigabyte 8IK1100 motherboard:mg: NEW ABIT IC7-G 2X 512MB PC3200LLPT CORSAIR RAM Intel Pentium 4 3.2GHZ Processor with HT Seagate SATA 120GB Hard drive, Maxtor IDE 120GB hard drive Creative Nvidia Geforce FX 5900 Ultra Creative Soundblaster Audigy 2 Platinum Pro CDRW 52X24X52X DVD ROM 16x 550 WATT antec PSU

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	A specificaly designed chip will always be better than a similarly clocked generic chip. The PS2 was designed from hte ground up to be an extremly efficient gmaing machine. The problem that arose however is that developers used to working with PC style architectures took (are taking) a long time to get to grips with it. In theory, it's quite possible that the PS2 (low clock, but pure console architecture) could beat the X-Box (Brute force, relatively low IPC) if it were programmed correctly, but who really knows. Sony will be sticking with this architecture for the next generation of PS, IIRC. You may wonder why if this is so good, why PCs don't use the same architecture. There are three main reasons for this: PCs are a modular system (I feel like replaceing my CPU today. I might change my graphics card tomorrow), the PS2's architecture relys on it being a fully integrated system PCs are general purpose machines. Switching to a multimedia optimised architecture would destroy performance on productivity apps Legacy support. Switching architecture breaks legacy support __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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May 1st, 2003	#2 (permalink)
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,698	It's because, most processors in consoles aren't "CISC" cpus.. They are "RISC" cpus.. Different type of technology from the "CISC" chips we use.. Both amd and intel cpu's are "CISC" cpus.. RISC cpus have better floating point processing.. Hence they are very well suited for gaming.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Ubuntu 64bit/Vista 32bit\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

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Zapages Prince of Persia Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,105	now come on PS3 will not be 4.0 ghz... Please Sony just hyping their system to take down competition away from Xbox or the next Nintendo Console. Also didn't the PS2's hype kill the Dreamcast in a way1 factor. __________________ Prince of Persia Legacy and Prince of Persia Gallery

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kain425 Hates the stupid consoles Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Israhell Posts: 387	a pc's cpu has to do a million and one things as oposed to a console cpu that has to do about 3 things at a time (im exjurating to make my point) hence a console pcu can be very specilized and a pc cpu has to be able to do everything. the gaming IPC of a console cpu is highyer but its still low considering the low clock __________________ sig larger than 25kb Personally its not God I dislike, its his fan club I cant stand P4@2.4//Gf4Ti4200 128mb//512ddr2700 3Dmark2001SE: 10581