Just HOW popular was FF2?

Archlyn · March 11th, 2003

Well? Anyone know how popular FF2 was on the NES back in the day?

I'm only asking because I just listened to the PSFs, and they sound alot more inline with square's SNES FFs (ie good) This is slightly Ironic because I tried playing FF2 on emulation and the music was the thing hat irked me, it always seemed way too high-piched/chirpy for me.

The PSX FF2 PSFs however were wonderful

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**Kane** · March 11th, 2003

FFChronicles is a port of the Wonderswan (not the NES) version with added FMV. The wonderswan version was pretty much a complete remake using hte best quality teh handheld could muster

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**Ryos** · March 11th, 2003

Well, the MUSIC was great. Unfortunately, I never could stand the game itself (and I suspect a lot of other people couldn't either). However, the Wonderswan port could have made the then unbearable game engine much less annoying.

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Esturk · March 11th, 2003

I beat FFII and FFIII on the nes about a month ago. The wonderswan versions are pretty lame IMHO. But the PS versions are very, very good. Although I still prefer to play the originals on the NES.

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Archlyn · March 11th, 2003

Kane,

I THINK you mean Origins don't you? IIRC Chronicles was ports of FFIV and FFV (sold seperately) Anyway, I just wanted to know how popular it was in Japan when it was released for the famicom

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**Ryos** · March 11th, 2003

> Anyway, I just wanted to know how popular it was in Japan when it was released for the famicom

Not all that popular. FF1 and FF2 didn't even make the platinum charts (the only FFs not to do that).

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**Kellicros** · March 11th, 2003

>> IIRC Chronicles was ports of FFIV and FFV (sold seperately)

I thought it's a combination release pack of FF5 and Chrono Trigger? :confused:

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Kaiser Sigma · March 11th, 2003

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>> IIRC Chronicles was ports of FFIV and FFV (sold seperately)

I thought it's a combination release pack of FF5 and Chrono Trigger? :confused:

No, FFC was a combination of FFIV and CT... then you have FF Anthology which combined FFV and FFVI...

Archlyn · March 11th, 2003

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No, FFC was a combination of FFIV and CT... then you have FF Anthology which combined FFV and FFVI...

I stand corrected. I didn't really care for either Chronicles or Anthology so I didn't memorize their details ^^;;

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Rhombus · March 11th, 2003

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Originally posted by Ryos
> Anyway, I just wanted to know how popular it was in Japan when it was released for the famicom

Not all that popular. FF1 and FF2 didn't even make the platinum charts (the only FFs not to do that).

I'm not surprised. I might get flamed for it, but I was already a fan of RPG's at the time, and I thought FF1 was pretty crappy. The plot was simplistic at best, the dialogue was awful (the dialogue in Japanese even is pretty crappy, so it's not just the translation), and the gameplay was pretty monotonous.

Nevertheless, it was a breakthrough in console RPG's and it was the basis around which alot of the later and greater titles were based so I gotta give it props for that.

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psicomaniaco · March 12th, 2003

FF1 was really sucky. But at that time it was the only RPG game I had. FF2 is great, but too easy, short and the story could be better.

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psicomaniaco · March 12th, 2003

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[B Not all that popular. FF1 and FF2 didn't even make the platinum charts (the only FFs not to do that). [/b]

Did FF3 make the platinum chart? In my opinion FF3 was quite sucky. FF2 is ages better.

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**Yeloazndevil** · March 12th, 2003

how bout Final Fantasy Origins....The remakes of FF1 and 2 are way better than the NES version and even the WSC version and I actually liked FF1 even if it had a bad story, but remember if it wasn't for FF1 there would be no FF today

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**Dark Watcher** · March 12th, 2003

We give credit where credit is due...of course FF1 / FF2 are simplistic..they were the genre breakers....FF1 saved Square from going defunct in the 1980's..It was the software company's last ditch effort (thus the name Final Fantasy)...FF2 began the whole "get to know the character" experience...decent story too..
Bottom line is all you new skewlers who were weened on FF7 may not appreciate such RPG beginnings...we however enjoyed FF1 & 2...er..FF3 is another story though....

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Esturk · March 12th, 2003

Sure FFI was pretty simplistic but back then they didn't have much to work with. If you think FFI was simple, try the original Dragon Quest. Couldn't be simpler, well Super Mario Brothers was simpler... But people still love it regardless.

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**Ryos** · March 12th, 2003

> Did FF3 make the platinum chart? In my opinion FF3 was quite sucky. FF2 is ages better.

Everything with the FF name made platinum except the first two.

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March 12th, 2003

I agree w/Dark Watcher. With out FF1 there would be no FF series at all. I also found FF 1 to be quite enjoyable on NES. Once I started playing it I couldn't stop. I played it straight through and I beat as well. I think it is quite a nice game . If those of you who are calling it "lame or sucky" are doing so in comparison to today's games, that is not fair. It was an 8bit game released in the early 1990s so of course it can't hold a candle to today's great efforts. But for it's day, I feel it was quite something. I am eagerly looking forward to FF Origins and will pick it up as soon as it is out here in the US.
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Kaiser Sigma · March 12th, 2003

Well I think everyone is being too severe... it was the first FF ever, you can't expect to be as complex as today FFs... besides I agree with what was said, without them there wouldn't be a FF saga as the one there is now

Another thing, you have to love the origin of great sagas, mind you a few years ago I replayed the Phantasy Star Saga after playing PSO and I enjoyed much more than the first time I played them (which BTW is a lot

) you have to love the nostalgic feeling it gives...

Archlyn · March 12th, 2003

So I'm not alone in admitting my closet enjoyment of FF1?

I loved everythng about it, music/graphics... everything. it's one of my alltime favorites.

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**Ryos** · March 12th, 2003

There's no reason for me to like it so much, but I'll be picking up Origins for FF 1 alone since I've replayed it more times than the rest of the series combined.

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Archlyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The land of Insanity Posts: 573	Just HOW popular was FF2? Well? Anyone know how popular FF2 was on the NES back in the day? I'm only asking because I just listened to the PSFs, and they sound alot more inline with square's SNES FFs (ie good) This is slightly Ironic because I tried playing FF2 on emulation and the music was the thing hat irked me, it always seemed way too high-piched/chirpy for me. The PSX FF2 PSFs however were wonderful __________________ Computer Specs: ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe (nForce4) \| AMD Athlon X2 3800 @ 2.0ghz \| 2x1.0GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 RAM (128-bit DDR mode) \| GeForce 7600 w/ 256mb VRAM \| Onboard Sound - for now OS1 : Windows XP / SP2 \| Direct X 9 OS2 : Gentoo Linux 2006.0 OS3 : Windows Vista Beta 2 ePSXe config: Pete's OpenGL 2.0 \| Eternal SPU 1.4 \| ePSXe Internal CD core (W2K) Project 64 config Jabo's D3D7 1.5 \| Jabo's DSound 1.5 \| Jabo's DInput 1.5

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March 11th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	FFChronicles is a port of the Wonderswan (not the NES) version with added FMV. The wonderswan version was pretty much a complete remake using hte best quality teh handheld could muster __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

March 11th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	Well, the MUSIC was great. Unfortunately, I never could stand the game itself (and I suspect a lot of other people couldn't either). However, the Wonderswan port could have made the then unbearable game engine much less annoying. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

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Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,958	I beat FFII and FFIII on the nes about a month ago. The wonderswan versions are pretty lame IMHO. But the PS versions are very, very good. Although I still prefer to play the originals on the NES. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5Q Deluxe, Intel P45 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

March 11th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Archlyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The land of Insanity Posts: 573	Kane, I THINK you mean Origins don't you? IIRC Chronicles was ports of FFIV and FFV (sold seperately) Anyway, I just wanted to know how popular it was in Japan when it was released for the famicom __________________ Computer Specs: ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe (nForce4) \| AMD Athlon X2 3800 @ 2.0ghz \| 2x1.0GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 RAM (128-bit DDR mode) \| GeForce 7600 w/ 256mb VRAM \| Onboard Sound - for now OS1 : Windows XP / SP2 \| Direct X 9 OS2 : Gentoo Linux 2006.0 OS3 : Windows Vista Beta 2 ePSXe config: Pete's OpenGL 2.0 \| Eternal SPU 1.4 \| ePSXe Internal CD core (W2K) Project 64 config Jabo's D3D7 1.5 \| Jabo's DSound 1.5 \| Jabo's DInput 1.5

March 11th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	> Anyway, I just wanted to know how popular it was in Japan when it was released for the famicom Not all that popular. FF1 and FF2 didn't even make the platinum charts (the only FFs not to do that). __________________ Sanity is overrated.

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Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,719	>> IIRC Chronicles was ports of FFIV and FFV (sold seperately) I thought it's a combination release pack of FF5 and Chrono Trigger? :confused: __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

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psicomaniaco Eh?? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I'm ashamed to say... Posts: 1,645	FF1 was really sucky. But at that time it was the only RPG game I had. FF2 is great, but too easy, short and the story could be better. __________________ Goals: -Buy a new video Card; Buy F.E.A.R; Beat NOLF 1 and 2; Buy cat food.

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Yeloazndevil Tsundere-chan Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,388	how bout Final Fantasy Origins....The remakes of FF1 and 2 are way better than the NES version and even the WSC version and I actually liked FF1 even if it had a bad story, but remember if it wasn't for FF1 there would be no FF today __________________

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Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,905	We give credit where credit is due...of course FF1 / FF2 are simplistic..they were the genre breakers....FF1 saved Square from going defunct in the 1980's..It was the software company's last ditch effort (thus the name Final Fantasy)...FF2 began the whole "get to know the character" experience...decent story too.. Bottom line is all you new skewlers who were weened on FF7 may not appreciate such RPG beginnings...we however enjoyed FF1 & 2...er..FF3 is another story though.... __________________

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Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,958	Sure FFI was pretty simplistic but back then they didn't have much to work with. If you think FFI was simple, try the original Dragon Quest. Couldn't be simpler, well Super Mario Brothers was simpler... But people still love it regardless. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5Q Deluxe, Intel P45 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

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Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	> Did FF3 make the platinum chart? In my opinion FF3 was quite sucky. FF2 is ages better. Everything with the FF name made platinum except the first two. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

March 12th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	I agree w/Dark Watcher. With out FF1 there would be no FF series at all. I also found FF 1 to be quite enjoyable on NES. Once I started playing it I couldn't stop. I played it straight through and I beat as well. I think it is quite a nice game . If those of you who are calling it "lame or sucky" are doing so in comparison to today's games, that is not fair. It was an 8bit game released in the early 1990s so of course it can't hold a candle to today's great efforts. But for it's day, I feel it was quite something. I am eagerly looking forward to FF Origins and will pick it up as soon as it is out here in the US. sincerely, sx/amiga

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Kaiser Sigma ~ Lord of Darkness ~ Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A place darker than the night. Posts: 14,637	Well I think everyone is being too severe... it was the first FF ever, you can't expect to be as complex as today FFs... besides I agree with what was said, without them there wouldn't be a FF saga as the one there is now Another thing, you have to love the origin of great sagas, mind you a few years ago I replayed the Phantasy Star Saga after playing PSO and I enjoyed much more than the first time I played them (which BTW is a lot ) you have to love the nostalgic feeling it gives...

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Archlyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The land of Insanity Posts: 573	So I'm not alone in admitting my closet enjoyment of FF1? I loved everythng about it, music/graphics... everything. it's one of my alltime favorites. __________________ Computer Specs: ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe (nForce4) \| AMD Athlon X2 3800 @ 2.0ghz \| 2x1.0GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 RAM (128-bit DDR mode) \| GeForce 7600 w/ 256mb VRAM \| Onboard Sound - for now OS1 : Windows XP / SP2 \| Direct X 9 OS2 : Gentoo Linux 2006.0 OS3 : Windows Vista Beta 2 ePSXe config: Pete's OpenGL 2.0 \| Eternal SPU 1.4 \| ePSXe Internal CD core (W2K) Project 64 config Jabo's D3D7 1.5 \| Jabo's DSound 1.5 \| Jabo's DInput 1.5

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Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	There's no reason for me to like it so much, but I'll be picking up Origins for FF 1 alone since I've replayed it more times than the rest of the series combined. __________________ Sanity is overrated.