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psicomaniaco · January 28th, 2003

I want to know one thing: Abandonware games are legal or ilegal? Imean, some1 here mentioned the Underdogs site and even posted a link to it. And what if the game is still being sold? Like Bio Menace. Its still being sold by apogee/3drealms, but most abandonware sites have it to download.

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Badaro · January 28th, 2003

It's illegal, just as ROMs are.

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**Kane** · January 28th, 2003

Yeah, it's illegal, it's just that companies are less inclined to enforce the law on such old games.

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**OK-OK** · January 28th, 2003

But games like caesar 1 is not illegal cuz the company offers it for free on their website.

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T.O.F.K.A.Z · January 29th, 2003

If the company itself does offer it then it's in no way illegal.
I always have had a dream that the companies would create a compilation of the games of the previous console so that no gaming history get's lost but due to the fact I never see this happening is the reason why I got into emulation in the first place.

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Taisen · January 29th, 2003

Underdogs doesn't offer games for download which the company will have a problem with or games still being sold somewhere. That is probably why the mods allowed the underdogs link to be posted.

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Player-X · January 30th, 2003

I belive you Americans It's called a "Grey Area Of The Law"

January 31st, 2003

Player-X, you are correct. That is exactally what it is referred to here in the USA. A "Grey Area Of The Law" simply means that it is technically unclear as to whether or not it is legal or illegal.
As for Underdogs.com they state that they only carry games that the companies have given their permission to be put up or games from companies that are no longer in business. If a company protests about a game being on Underdogs, then Underdogs will remove it.
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Drack · January 31st, 2003

Its like mod-chips. In the US, they should be protected under fair-use laws, but under the DCMA they are illigal, because they work around a copy protection. I don't know if there has ever been a ruling on them, which would justify them as either legal or illigal.

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January 28th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
psicomaniaco Eh?? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I'm ashamed to say... Posts: 1,645	Abandonwarez I want to know one thing: Abandonware games are legal or ilegal? Imean, some1 here mentioned the Underdogs site and even posted a link to it. And what if the game is still being sold? Like Bio Menace. Its still being sold by apogee/3drealms, but most abandonware sites have it to download. __________________ Goals: -Buy a new video Card; Buy F.E.A.R; Beat NOLF 1 and 2; Buy cat food.

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January 28th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Badaro I'm in despair! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,412	It's illegal, just as ROMs are. []s Badaro __________________ Fanatic for the Super Robot Taisen series

January 28th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	Yeah, it's illegal, it's just that companies are less inclined to enforce the law on such old games. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

January 28th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
OK-OK I'm back... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,507	But games like caesar 1 is not illegal cuz the company offers it for free on their website. __________________ Don't let the beautiful eyes trick you before they eat you alive.

January 29th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
T.O.F.K.A.Z ..::NL_HC_NL::.. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: THE PLACE EVERYONE FORGOT Posts: 1,746	If the company itself does offer it then it's in no way illegal. I always have had a dream that the companies would create a compilation of the games of the previous console so that no gaming history get's lost but due to the fact I never see this happening is the reason why I got into emulation in the first place. __________________ Senior Member of the "Optimism-Non-Pessismism Club" ---------- Specs : PENTIUM 4 2,5 Ghz / GEFORCE FX 5700 Ultra --------- ---------- SOUND BLASTER Audigy2 Platinum/ 512MB DDR -------------- ---------- If you don't agree with me then that's OK by ----------------- ---------- me but I hope you respect my opinion as well ----------------

January 29th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Taisen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 782	Underdogs doesn't offer games for download which the company will have a problem with or games still being sold somewhere. That is probably why the mods allowed the underdogs link to be posted. __________________ FIGHT IT OUT! "Who cares about Virtual Boy..." -takwu

January 30th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,117	I belive you Americans It's called a "Grey Area Of The Law"

January 31st, 2003	#8 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Player-X, you are correct. That is exactally what it is referred to here in the USA. A "Grey Area Of The Law" simply means that it is technically unclear as to whether or not it is legal or illegal. As for Underdogs.com they state that they only carry games that the companies have given their permission to be put up or games from companies that are no longer in business. If a company protests about a game being on Underdogs, then Underdogs will remove it. sincerely, sx/amiga

January 31st, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Drack Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: PDX, USA Posts: 1,187	Its like mod-chips. In the US, they should be protected under fair-use laws, but under the DCMA they are illigal, because they work around a copy protection. I don't know if there has ever been a ruling on them, which would justify them as either legal or illigal. __________________ Athlon64 +3200, GeForceFX 5900, 1024 MB DDR 400, nForce3 250Gb chipset 80 GB SATA Seagate , 80 GB 7200 RPM Seagate, 120 GB 7200 Seagate Lite-on SOHD-167T and Pioneer DVR-A06D Running XP Professional and SuSe 9.1