MGS2 EE bit

**Kane** · October 10th, 2002

Is is actualy impossible to swim where you tell it to?
I've given it 4 attepts now, and each time I've been screwed by the fact that it doesn't actualy go where I tell it to.

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**Xeven** · October 10th, 2002

what doesnt go to where you tell it to? .. you mean when you control raiden underwater?

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**Kane** · October 10th, 2002

Yeah. I tell him to go up, and what does he do? HE GOES FREAKINGLEFT THE TWAT

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**Xeven** · October 10th, 2002

well i use the digital pad underwater.. and dont forget to give it some gas before going forward up down etc..

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**Kane** · October 10th, 2002

I swear they designed this bit of the game just so that you hate it.

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**Xeven** · October 10th, 2002

hehe.. its not that bad.. xcept.. when you swim thru those mines and just die..

It takes a bit of time to memorize the floor layout, after that though.. its pretty easy..

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Adair · October 10th, 2002

Yes, it does take a bit of getting used to. I beat the plant chapter on extreme difficulty and got all the dog tags about a week ago, so anything's possible.
Maybe you have the controls set backwards. You can invert the up/down controls in the options menu before starting a game by changing the "own view" setting. Or you can also change it when you access a node to get you radar working.

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Decoy_Octopus · October 10th, 2002

The swimming part sucked, and so did most other parts of MGS2

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**Xeven** · October 10th, 2002

:topicoff:

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**Kane** · October 10th, 2002

I managed to do it in the end. Hardest bit so far, tho.

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Sir Key · October 10th, 2002

but that water effect when you enter or leave the water simply r00lz it! i also managed this bit pretty easy....

**Kane** · October 11th, 2002

Finaly completed the damn game. Felt a bit... incomplete.
Felt far too short, and the ending was trying to be far too cryptic.

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Syed Fawad · October 11th, 2002

Kane, care to express your views? Check this out:

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Ninjaa · October 13th, 2002

Lord Kane, couldn't agree with you more about the ending. I was extremely let down by it as well.

About the water part though, it took me two tries. I got hung up the first time, and I couldn't get free. I had to wait until the water killed me.

carnage179 · October 13th, 2002

I hated the ending in MGS2, the EE bit was annoying because I couldnt find the way out.

BTW, what exacty does cryptic mean?

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**Kane** · October 13th, 2002

After finally seeing after the credits, I think that bit was a nice touch.

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Ninjaa · October 13th, 2002

It was, but not enough to save the ending.

carnage179 · October 13th, 2002

Even after that, I still hated the ending. What would be good is if the patroits were not as powerful as they said, maybe only as powerful as the secreaty of defence in MGS. I dont like the idea that some people were in controll of everything that has happened in the series. If they only had the level of power as that guy in MGS, I would like it because it would mean that they dont have unlimited power, and can be stopped and stuff...I dought you guys really understand me, I'm told I'm confusing.

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**Kane** · October 13th, 2002

I think MGS3 will deal with that issue, probs with snake and Raiden going after the Patriots (I hope Raiden doesn't make an appearence, but....)

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Syed Fawad · October 13th, 2002

I hope that Raiden remains busy with his family and doesn't put his ass in the Metal Gear business. Snake should be the hero.

MGS3 can be the greatest MGS.

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October 10th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	MGS2 EE bit Is is actualy impossible to swim where you tell it to? I've given it 4 attepts now, and each time I've been screwed by the fact that it doesn't actualy go where I tell it to. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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October 10th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Xeven A BIG BAD BATARD™ Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,523	what doesnt go to where you tell it to? .. you mean when you control raiden underwater? __________________

October 10th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	Yeah. I tell him to go up, and what does he do? HE GOES FREAKINGLEFT THE TWAT __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

October 10th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Xeven A BIG BAD BATARD™ Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,523	well i use the digital pad underwater.. and dont forget to give it some gas before going forward up down etc.. __________________

October 10th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	I swear they designed this bit of the game just so that you hate it. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

October 10th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Xeven A BIG BAD BATARD™ Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,523	hehe.. its not that bad.. xcept.. when you swim thru those mines and just die.. It takes a bit of time to memorize the floor layout, after that though.. its pretty easy.. __________________

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Adair Ghost Hacker Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,830	Yes, it does take a bit of getting used to. I beat the plant chapter on extreme difficulty and got all the dog tags about a week ago, so anything's possible. Maybe you have the controls set backwards. You can invert the up/down controls in the options menu before starting a game by changing the "own view" setting. Or you can also change it when you access a node to get you radar working. __________________ WindowsXP pro \| ASUS A7N8X Nforce2 motherboard \| Athlon XP 1700+(1.46 Ghz) IBM 40GB 7200rpm \| 512Mb DDR PC3000 \| Leadtek geforce4 Ti4400 \| SB live X-gamer 16x DVDrom & 4x4x24x CDrewriter \| Enermax EG465 (430watt power supply)

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Decoy_Octopus Master of Disguise Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Here... again... Posts: 1,508	The swimming part sucked, and so did most other parts of MGS2 __________________ "I contend that any game that draws people in is a good thing, because the more people play computer games, the more the hobby becomes legitimized and loses its social-retard status."- Jeff Green

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Xeven A BIG BAD BATARD™ Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,523	:topicoff: __________________

October 10th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	I managed to do it in the end. Hardest bit so far, tho. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

October 10th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,947	but that water effect when you enter or leave the water simply r00lz it! i also managed this bit pretty easy....

October 11th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	Finaly completed the damn game. Felt a bit... incomplete. Felt far too short, and the ending was trying to be far too cryptic. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

October 11th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,260	Kane, care to express your views? Check this out: http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...highlight=MGS2 __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

October 13th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Lord Kane, couldn't agree with you more about the ending. I was extremely let down by it as well. About the water part though, it took me two tries. I got hung up the first time, and I couldn't get free. I had to wait until the water killed me.

October 13th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
carnage179 #$@^! Join Date: May 2001 Location: sitting in the most comfortible chair ever! Posts: 2,197	I hated the ending in MGS2, the EE bit was annoying because I couldnt find the way out. BTW, what exacty does cryptic mean? __________________ One old cactus.

October 13th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	After finally seeing after the credits, I think that bit was a nice touch. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

October 13th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	It was, but not enough to save the ending.

October 13th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
carnage179 #$@^! Join Date: May 2001 Location: sitting in the most comfortible chair ever! Posts: 2,197	Even after that, I still hated the ending. What would be good is if the patroits were not as powerful as they said, maybe only as powerful as the secreaty of defence in MGS. I dont like the idea that some people were in controll of everything that has happened in the series. If they only had the level of power as that guy in MGS, I would like it because it would mean that they dont have unlimited power, and can be stopped and stuff...I dought you guys really understand me, I'm told I'm confusing. __________________ One old cactus.

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	I think MGS3 will deal with that issue, probs with snake and Raiden going after the Patriots (I hope Raiden doesn't make an appearence, but....) __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,260	I hope that Raiden remains busy with his family and doesn't put his ass in the Metal Gear business. Snake should be the hero. MGS3 can be the greatest MGS. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"