Best Games Manufacture - Page 8

**_E_** · September 30th, 2002

Sega ALWAYS make good games. they can kick everyones @ss if they didnt kill their gamepads/consoles early

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average_guy · September 30th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Kingstar
Sega ALWAYS make good games. they can kick everyones @ss if they didnt kill their gamepads/consoles early

everyone make mistakes, but not every mistake can be ignored

**_E_** · September 30th, 2002

yes , and thats what bothering me,.....except that sega didnt actually kill its dreamcast, it was sony,...........

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-= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =-
the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Margaret C. Smith

average_guy · September 30th, 2002

explain

**_E_** · September 30th, 2002

Sega's Dreamcast gorgous graphics and huge abilites were demolished by Sony's successful method of advertisment. Later on, despite releasing Amazing RPGs such as RE code veronica or Shenmue, sega was losing its dreamcast vs playstation war ( it was dreamcast vs PS2 at the very end) and so sega decided to end its support for dreamcast to avoid more losses........

__________________

-= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =-
the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Margaret C. Smith

**Exophase** · September 30th, 2002

Heh, "Amazing RPGs such as RE code veronica or Shenmue"... amazing RPGs like Mario 64 and Street Fighter!

- Exo

**_E_** · September 30th, 2002

I dont get your point exactly exo,...what do you mean? If you are making fun of RE code veronica and Shenmue, then you either have poor background in RPG games or you 're either messing around, and i hope you are not doing that

__________________

-= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =-
the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Margaret C. Smith

chillypacman · September 30th, 2002

He probably doesnt have the same taste in rpg's as you do kingstar

**_E_** · September 30th, 2002

well, he looked like as if he's making fun out of me, otherwise, i repect others opinions

__________________

-= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =-
the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Margaret C. Smith

**Kane** · September 30th, 2002

RE is a Survival Horror. Shenmue is an Action/ Adventure. That's the point Exo is making. They are as much RPGs as Street Fighter and Mario 64.

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**_E_** · September 30th, 2002

yes, thats true, but many people refer to them as RPG since they contain that element,.................

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**Kane** · September 30th, 2002

That's braodening the genre just a little too much IMO. It's like Zelda isn't an RPG, it's an Action adventure.
Vagrant Story is an Action/RPG. FF is an RPG. Secret of Mana is a Action RPG. Resident Evil is a Survival Horror, not an RPG. Shenmue is an Action/Adventure not an RPG.

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**_E_** · September 30th, 2002

okay,.....whatever you say , Lord Kane, ( i dont mind the genre of the game, i mind the game itself) Back to the topic: Those two were examples of the dreamcast best games, and yet, sony was able to kill that "lovely" console ( adds up to the many reasons why i hate sony )

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-= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =-
the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Margaret C. Smith

**Kane** · October 1st, 2002

Yes there were a couple of good games on the DC, but it couldn't compete with the lineup on the PSX and PS2. Yes there were a few gems: Crazy Taxi (now ported to every system), Sonic Adventure 2 (now ported to the GC), Soul Calibur (The sequel now coming to GC/PS2), and aparently Shenmue was quite good, although I didn't like it.

If Sony hadn't killed it, Nintendo and the GC would have.

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**_E_** · October 1st, 2002

no,...If dreamcast survived 2 years more, sega might release another version of its dreamcast if it sees that it was successful

__________________

-= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =-
the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Margaret C. Smith

**Kane** · October 1st, 2002

Doubtful. Even Sega diehards were put off by Sega's poor treatment of the Saturn owners by discontinuing support of it so early, much like the demise of the DC.

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average_guy · October 1st, 2002

before i bought psx, i was in walmart, they sell dreamcast and a psx. below dreamcast it says $199.99 on psx it says $129.99
point made

**_E_** · October 1st, 2002

Yes , as i said before the problem with sega is that they are KILLING THEIR CONSOLES!!!! argh!! and not to mention that their adverstisment prosedure sucks!!,.........i really like sega's consoles, but i am just trying to know why are they "killing" themselves with their own hands???

__________________

-= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =-
the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Margaret C. Smith

**Kane** · October 1st, 2002

That's why Sega isn't the greatest games manufacturer. It was not Sony that killed the DC. It was Sega itself.

Not every Sega game was incredible it's just that the good ones have got lodged in your head, and you forgot the poor ones.

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>Site Live<
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Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business
Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE
Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

**_E_** · October 1st, 2002

Sega killed itself? yes,...but with the help of sony ofcourse. Almost all sega games are good,......they are nt like the psx,...most of sega's work is neat , and thats why i like them

__________________

-= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =-
the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
Margaret C. Smith

View Poll Results: Best Game Manufactures
Sega	6	7.69%
Squaresoft	38	48.72%
Nintendo	7	8.97%
Capcom	8	10.26%
Microsoft	0	0%
Sony ( not sure though)	1	1.28%
Sega and Nintendo	4	5.13%
Sega and Sqauresoft	2	2.56%
Rare	2	2.56%
none of the above	8	10.26%
Konami	2	2.56%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

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September 30th, 2002	#141 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	Sega ALWAYS make good games. they can kick everyones @ss if they didnt kill their gamepads/consoles early __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 30th, 2002	#143 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	yes , and thats what bothering me,.....except that sega didnt actually kill its dreamcast, it was sony,........... __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 30th, 2002	#144 (permalink)
average_guy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,865	explain

September 30th, 2002	#145 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	Sega's Dreamcast gorgous graphics and huge abilites were demolished by Sony's successful method of advertisment. Later on, despite releasing Amazing RPGs such as RE code veronica or Shenmue, sega was losing its dreamcast vs playstation war ( it was dreamcast vs PS2 at the very end) and so sega decided to end its support for dreamcast to avoid more losses........ __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 30th, 2002	#146 (permalink)
Exophase Emu author Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cleveland OH, USA Posts: 1,184	Heh, "Amazing RPGs such as RE code veronica or Shenmue"... amazing RPGs like Mario 64 and Street Fighter! - Exo

September 30th, 2002	#147 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	I dont get your point exactly exo,...what do you mean? If you are making fun of RE code veronica and Shenmue, then you either have poor background in RPG games or you 're either messing around, and i hope you are not doing that __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 30th, 2002	#148 (permalink)
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	He probably doesnt have the same taste in rpg's as you do kingstar

September 30th, 2002	#149 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	well, he looked like as if he's making fun out of me, otherwise, i repect others opinions __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 30th, 2002	#150 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	RE is a Survival Horror. Shenmue is an Action/ Adventure. That's the point Exo is making. They are as much RPGs as Street Fighter and Mario 64. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

September 30th, 2002	#151 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	yes, thats true, but many people refer to them as RPG since they contain that element,................. __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 30th, 2002	#152 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	That's braodening the genre just a little too much IMO. It's like Zelda isn't an RPG, it's an Action adventure. Vagrant Story is an Action/RPG. FF is an RPG. Secret of Mana is a Action RPG. Resident Evil is a Survival Horror, not an RPG. Shenmue is an Action/Adventure not an RPG. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

September 30th, 2002	#153 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	okay,.....whatever you say , Lord Kane, ( i dont mind the genre of the game, i mind the game itself) Back to the topic: Those two were examples of the dreamcast best games, and yet, sony was able to kill that "lovely" console ( adds up to the many reasons why i hate sony ) __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

October 1st, 2002	#154 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	Yes there were a couple of good games on the DC, but it couldn't compete with the lineup on the PSX and PS2. Yes there were a few gems: Crazy Taxi (now ported to every system), Sonic Adventure 2 (now ported to the GC), Soul Calibur (The sequel now coming to GC/PS2), and aparently Shenmue was quite good, although I didn't like it. If Sony hadn't killed it, Nintendo and the GC would have. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

October 1st, 2002	#155 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	no,...If dreamcast survived 2 years more, sega might release another version of its dreamcast if it sees that it was successful __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

October 1st, 2002	#156 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	Doubtful. Even Sega diehards were put off by Sega's poor treatment of the Saturn owners by discontinuing support of it so early, much like the demise of the DC. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

October 1st, 2002	#157 (permalink)
average_guy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,865	before i bought psx, i was in walmart, they sell dreamcast and a psx. below dreamcast it says $199.99 on psx it says $129.99 point made

October 1st, 2002	#158 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	Yes , as i said before the problem with sega is that they are KILLING THEIR CONSOLES!!!! argh!! and not to mention that their adverstisment prosedure sucks!!,.........i really like sega's consoles, but i am just trying to know why are they "killing" themselves with their own hands??? __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

October 1st, 2002	#159 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,305	That's why Sega isn't the greatest games manufacturer. It was not Sony that killed the DC. It was Sega itself. Not every Sega game was incredible it's just that the good ones have got lodged in your head, and you forgot the poor ones. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

October 1st, 2002	#160 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	Sega killed itself? yes,...but with the help of sony ofcourse. Almost all sega games are good,......they are nt like the psx,...most of sega's work is neat , and thats why i like them __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith