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Mohd · September 28th, 2002

I voted for Square soft but I think there is some thing missing where is Konami (Metal Gear II and WE6 the best)

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Christemplar · September 28th, 2002

Too many of the to be listed out.
Well, why is Microsoft up there!?

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**_E_** · September 28th, 2002

Squall 84, there are about 20 people who complained about Konami before you did,...please read the posts before posting to avoid confusion. as for christemplar, microsoft released xbox and Pc games such as Age of Empires and Flight Simulator , i thought people would be intrested in both games, but i turned to be wrong,...............

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Christemplar · September 28th, 2002

Well, you're wrong!

Until now, no one has voted for Microsoft... and that's good!

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**_E_** · September 28th, 2002

Well both games were great,....but the fact is that people hated microsoft when it released xbox,.......I should invite a MS representative to ngemu.com to see for himself the number of people that hate this company

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Christemplar · September 28th, 2002

Yeah, and maybe he and Microsoft will broke down and cry...

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**_E_** · September 28th, 2002

,....i just wanna see the impression on bill gate's funny face!

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Christemplar · September 28th, 2002

Yep, that would be really funny! Can't stop laughing while imagining his expression!

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Mohd · September 28th, 2002

It will be hard to me to read all the post since I don't have much time to work in internet because I can't access the forum from my computer due to some problem, I only can access it from my brother computer.

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**Ryos** · September 28th, 2002

> Well, why is Microsoft up there!?

Age of Empires is easily one of the best series of its genre (which is already pretty fun). On the other hand, I usually don't base my vote on one series, unlike some people (*cough* FF *cough*).

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**_E_** · September 28th, 2002

I agree with that,.....i find Final fantasy a nice game,...but that doeasnt mean its the best,....its just that FF and MGS were so good, they were cherished by most PSX gamers,........

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Christemplar · September 28th, 2002

Well, I agreed with Ryos that Age of Empire is one of the best series game but in overall that doesn't make it to become the best game manufacturer.

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**_E_** · September 28th, 2002

Microsoft abilites in designing softwares ARE HUGE, and after all what is a Game?? its just a progam similar to any other program, but have different functions and methods of operation,........

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**Exophase** · September 28th, 2002

A game isn't just "another piece of software." Sure, its CODE is, but you need much more than good coding to make a good game. You need good graphics artists, musicians, writers, beta testers, and so on. Plus the style of coding is entirely different from most other types of programs. I'm sure many people who write commercial applications couldn't put together a good game to save their lives.

- Exo

**_E_** · September 28th, 2002

And you think microsoft cant get these artists??

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Ninjaa · September 28th, 2002

Kingstar, face it. MS just isn't a gaming company. You can get artists, sure, but experienced and talented ones? That's a little trickier. Besides, I think that AOE was developed by an external studio.

As far as AOE is concerned though, I don't really like it. It just isn't as fun as Command and Conquer or Starcraft IMO.

**Exophase** · September 28th, 2002

You can't buy unlimited talent with money, many of the most talented people are simply already taken and I'm sure plenty of them don't exactly want to work for MS either. People are interested in more than large paychecks.

- Exo

Ninjaa · September 28th, 2002

A case example would be Shigeru Miyamoto. Nintendo's prized man.

Shigeru Miyamoto has admitted in an interview once that he has been offered ranking positions in other companies, and a much larger paycheck on a number of occasions. He has always turned them down because he likes his job at Nintendo, and Nintendo gives him the freedom to do whatever he likes with his games. He has the world's best job, and more money isn't going to make him quit it.

It is like that with many people in this industry.

**_E_** · September 29th, 2002

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A case example would be Shigeru Miyamoto. Nintendo's prized man.

Shigeru Miyamoto has admitted in an interview once that he has been offered ranking positions in other companies, and a much larger paycheck on a number of occasions. He has always turned them down because he likes his job at Nintendo, and Nintendo gives him the freedom to do whatever he likes with his games. He has the world's best job, and more money isn't going to make him quit it.

It is like that with many people in this industry.

So you mean that all talented artists would refuse a good offer?? i dont think so! Some of them may do, since they love their job like the guy you mentioned above, but that doesnt imply on every single talented artist,......and thats the point i am talking about

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Alias · September 29th, 2002

he never said every talented artist, he said there are many people who would refuse the offer because they love their current job, money be damned. In my opinion, the people in the industry that work because they want to, not work for the almightly dollar (or yen/pound/peso... haha wutever) are the people who make the best games.

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View Poll Results: Best Game Manufactures
Sega	6	7.69%
Squaresoft	38	48.72%
Nintendo	7	8.97%
Capcom	8	10.26%
Microsoft	0	0%
Sony ( not sure though)	1	1.28%
Sega and Nintendo	4	5.13%
Sega and Sqauresoft	2	2.56%
Rare	2	2.56%
none of the above	8	10.26%
Konami	2	2.56%
Voters: 78. You may not vote on this poll

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September 28th, 2002	#101 (permalink)
Mohd .:: PHP King ::. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bahrain Posts: 580	I voted for Square soft but I think there is some thing missing where is Konami (Metal Gear II and WE6 the best) __________________ Mohd Webs! Where Programmer Can Learn & Help .::. Mohd Forums My Email

September 28th, 2002	#102 (permalink)
Christemplar Angel Join Date: May 2002 Location: A place beyond beyond. Posts: 2,296	Too many of the to be listed out. Well, why is Microsoft up there!? __________________ Writing of Insanity

September 28th, 2002	#103 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	Squall 84, there are about 20 people who complained about Konami before you did,...please read the posts before posting to avoid confusion. as for christemplar, microsoft released xbox and Pc games such as Age of Empires and Flight Simulator , i thought people would be intrested in both games, but i turned to be wrong,............... __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 28th, 2002	#104 (permalink)
Christemplar Angel Join Date: May 2002 Location: A place beyond beyond. Posts: 2,296	Well, you're wrong! Until now, no one has voted for Microsoft... and that's good! __________________ Writing of Insanity

September 28th, 2002	#105 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	Well both games were great,....but the fact is that people hated microsoft when it released xbox,.......I should invite a MS representative to ngemu.com to see for himself the number of people that hate this company __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 28th, 2002	#106 (permalink)
Christemplar Angel Join Date: May 2002 Location: A place beyond beyond. Posts: 2,296	Yeah, and maybe he and Microsoft will broke down and cry... __________________ Writing of Insanity

September 28th, 2002	#107 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	,....i just wanna see the impression on bill gate's funny face! __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 28th, 2002	#108 (permalink)
Christemplar Angel Join Date: May 2002 Location: A place beyond beyond. Posts: 2,296	Yep, that would be really funny! Can't stop laughing while imagining his expression! __________________ Writing of Insanity

September 28th, 2002	#109 (permalink)
Mohd .:: PHP King ::. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bahrain Posts: 580	It will be hard to me to read all the post since I don't have much time to work in internet because I can't access the forum from my computer due to some problem, I only can access it from my brother computer. __________________ Mohd Webs! Where Programmer Can Learn & Help .::. Mohd Forums My Email

September 28th, 2002	#110 (permalink)
Ryos Bearsona Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,307	> Well, why is Microsoft up there!? Age of Empires is easily one of the best series of its genre (which is already pretty fun). On the other hand, I usually don't base my vote on one series, unlike some people (cough FF cough). __________________ Sanity is overrated.

September 28th, 2002	#111 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	I agree with that,.....i find Final fantasy a nice game,...but that doeasnt mean its the best,....its just that FF and MGS were so good, they were cherished by most PSX gamers,........ __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 28th, 2002	#112 (permalink)
Christemplar Angel Join Date: May 2002 Location: A place beyond beyond. Posts: 2,296	Well, I agreed with Ryos that Age of Empire is one of the best series game but in overall that doesn't make it to become the best game manufacturer. __________________ Writing of Insanity

September 28th, 2002	#113 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	Microsoft abilites in designing softwares ARE HUGE, and after all what is a Game?? its just a progam similar to any other program, but have different functions and methods of operation,........ __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 28th, 2002	#114 (permalink)
Exophase Emu author Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cleveland OH, USA Posts: 1,184	A game isn't just "another piece of software." Sure, its CODE is, but you need much more than good coding to make a good game. You need good graphics artists, musicians, writers, beta testers, and so on. Plus the style of coding is entirely different from most other types of programs. I'm sure many people who write commercial applications couldn't put together a good game to save their lives. - Exo

September 28th, 2002	#115 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 8,958	And you think microsoft cant get these artists?? __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

September 28th, 2002	#116 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Kingstar, face it. MS just isn't a gaming company. You can get artists, sure, but experienced and talented ones? That's a little trickier. Besides, I think that AOE was developed by an external studio. As far as AOE is concerned though, I don't really like it. It just isn't as fun as Command and Conquer or Starcraft IMO.

September 28th, 2002	#117 (permalink)
Exophase Emu author Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cleveland OH, USA Posts: 1,184	You can't buy unlimited talent with money, many of the most talented people are simply already taken and I'm sure plenty of them don't exactly want to work for MS either. People are interested in more than large paychecks. - Exo

September 28th, 2002	#118 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	A case example would be Shigeru Miyamoto. Nintendo's prized man. Shigeru Miyamoto has admitted in an interview once that he has been offered ranking positions in other companies, and a much larger paycheck on a number of occasions. He has always turned them down because he likes his job at Nintendo, and Nintendo gives him the freedom to do whatever he likes with his games. He has the world's best job, and more money isn't going to make him quit it. It is like that with many people in this industry.

September 29th, 2002	#120 (permalink)
Alias >_< Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 924	he never said every talented artist, he said there are many people who would refuse the offer because they love their current job, money be damned. In my opinion, the people in the industry that work because they want to, not work for the almightly dollar (or yen/pound/peso... haha wutever) are the people who make the best games. __________________ >_<