Need some help

librab103 · September 1st, 2002

Hello all... this is my first thread and hopefully not my last. I have a BIG PROBLEM or should i say my friend does. See the problem is that my friend has Dead or Alive 2 (Jap Version) for the DC. Well stupid him(no offense to him) doesn't know how to treat his cds, leaves them laying around. So he comes up to me telling me his cd keeps freezing up on him and tells me to take a look at(nice person i am). So I do and I find to nice scatches on it. So now what i am trying to do for my friend is make him a copy of his cd (oh yeah its going to cost him hehe) to see if i can fix it. So what i am trying to ask is that if anybody has the jap version of the game or english, if it the same files, to help me out with files i might need to replace if any. Thank you have a good nite.

Lizking · September 1st, 2002

i dont think you can ask for that.
and are these really deep scratches? have you tried cleaning it?

Quatro · September 1st, 2002

why don't you apply the toothpaste technique on the scratch... it might help in reading the CD.

carnage179 · September 1st, 2002

toothpasted technique?

librab103 · September 1st, 2002

what do you mean the tooth paste technique?

**Kane** · September 1st, 2002

You use toothpaste to fill in the scratches on the CD.
AFAIK tho, the DC discs have poor error checking so this may not work

Solidsnake · September 2nd, 2002

please enlighten me about this toothpaste technique??
Can u use any toothpaste??

SomeUserGuy · September 2nd, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Solidsnake
please enlighten me about this toothpaste technique??
Can u use any toothpaste??

probably. i don't think mint flavor or plain will change anything. but i'm not sure.

Sir Key · September 2nd, 2002

man i've described this technique over and over again but okay.... i learned it here to so i guess i have to offer my help... first this is no joke it's for real i have tried it myself and it worked... seconds i don't take any responsability if anything happens to the cd.. so don't blame me.. although this technique is pretty safe... ok:
[1]
first you have to clean the cd from hair and stuff simply take little towel or something and rub it slightly...
[2]
now look for the scratch(es) and take some toothpaste (not important wich one... only look for little crystals like in the mentadent c, and for stuff that "bleaches" your teeth that stuff isn't allowed to be inside! that means no bleaching stuff and no crystals..... a plain cheap toothpaste should do it)
[3]
put a bit of the toothpaste on the scratch and like 1 cm around it... don't overdo it... i mean it's not really dangerous but then you don't know where to rubb...
[4]
let it dry a bit
[5]
now take a piece of toilet paper and take it double (or triple so you hold it good) and start rubbing the toothpaste on the area... not only that scratch the entire area (1 cm) around the scratch.... you have to rubb pretty hard (but don't brake the cd)... this may take a while... just keep rubbing around
[6]
take another piece of toilet paper make it wet and rub the toothpaste off.... if you still see the scratch put the toothpaste on it again and start rubbing again... the area might be a bit blurry... but now the drive should be able to read it correctly... just don't forget to wash the toothpaste off completely and then you have to dry it with a dry piece of toilet paper or something... just be sure there's no more water on it.... i hope it was a help... hmm... i already started thinking about a little step-by-step guide with pics.... maybe later... see ya... and good luck

EDIT: BIIIG MISTAKE!! read the corrected point 2 again... sorry.... sometimes i realize what the little word "not" can change in a sentence

Decoy_Octopus · September 3rd, 2002

HMMM... thats a good idea...

Lizking · September 3rd, 2002

is it because the bleaching chemicals melt the plastic on the CD a bit, and that fills the gaps?

Drack · September 3rd, 2002

Hmm this is the reason why we should be allowed to make backups of our game. I guess the industry wants this to happen so that we will go out and buy another disc.

Sir Key · September 3rd, 2002

also i have to say that this is only the cheapest and quickest idea... there ARe better solutions and stuff...
@lizking:
i don't think this has anything to do with the chemicals... it is more because you know the biggest part of a cd is plastic wich scratches easily and protects the written parts underneath.... so if there's a scratch on that plastic the laser get's splitted and the signal is not correct... now if you rubb away the scratch you make the whole are even so the signal get's trough directly... (this is just an idea...)

Quatro · September 3rd, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Lizking
is it because the bleaching chemicals melt the plastic on the CD a bit, and that fills the gaps?

didn't know that toothpaste have bleaching chemicals

Sir Key · September 3rd, 2002

there are some here in my country they are called perlweiss... it's the same if you put backing flour on your teeth...

Quatro · September 5th, 2002

ok... so does it make your teeth whiter??? just wanna know...

Alias · September 6th, 2002

toothpaste lightly buffs away the scratch. And another important point is to rub vertically from the inside of the disc toward the outside. DON'T MAKE CIRCLES!!! You'll make your cd even worse.

Quatro · September 7th, 2002

and don't forget to remove excess toothpaste.. also don't apply thick coats...

September 1st, 2002	#1 (permalink)
librab103 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 23	Need some help Hello all... this is my first thread and hopefully not my last. I have a BIG PROBLEM or should i say my friend does. See the problem is that my friend has Dead or Alive 2 (Jap Version) for the DC. Well stupid him(no offense to him) doesn't know how to treat his cds, leaves them laying around. So he comes up to me telling me his cd keeps freezing up on him and tells me to take a look at(nice person i am). So I do and I find to nice scatches on it. So now what i am trying to do for my friend is make him a copy of his cd (oh yeah its going to cost him hehe) to see if i can fix it. So what i am trying to ask is that if anybody has the jap version of the game or english, if it the same files, to help me out with files i might need to replace if any. Thank you have a good nite.

September 1st, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Lizking AAAAAAaaaahhhh....BOOM Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carbonmonoxidia, The capital of Silicon Valley Posts: 635	i dont think you can ask for that. and are these really deep scratches? have you tried cleaning it? __________________

September 1st, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	why don't you apply the toothpaste technique on the scratch... it might help in reading the CD. __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

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carnage179 #$@^! Join Date: May 2001 Location: sitting in the most comfortible chair ever! Posts: 2,197	toothpasted technique? __________________ One old cactus.

September 1st, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	You use toothpaste to fill in the scratches on the CD. AFAIK tho, the DC discs have poor error checking so this may not work __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

September 1st, 2002	#5 (permalink)
librab103 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 23	what do you mean the tooth paste technique?

September 2nd, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Solidsnake I made u wait, didn't I? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Mumbai Posts: 116	please enlighten me about this toothpaste technique?? Can u use any toothpaste?? __________________ "Reality is no match for a Legend" -MGS PSOne

September 2nd, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,945	man i've described this technique over and over again but okay.... i learned it here to so i guess i have to offer my help... first this is no joke it's for real i have tried it myself and it worked... seconds i don't take any responsability if anything happens to the cd.. so don't blame me.. although this technique is pretty safe... ok: [1] first you have to clean the cd from hair and stuff simply take little towel or something and rub it slightly... [2] now look for the scratch(es) and take some toothpaste (not important wich one... only look for little crystals like in the mentadent c, and for stuff that "bleaches" your teeth that stuff isn't allowed to be inside! that means no bleaching stuff and no crystals..... a plain cheap toothpaste should do it) [3] put a bit of the toothpaste on the scratch and like 1 cm around it... don't overdo it... i mean it's not really dangerous but then you don't know where to rubb... [4] let it dry a bit [5] now take a piece of toilet paper and take it double (or triple so you hold it good) and start rubbing the toothpaste on the area... not only that scratch the entire area (1 cm) around the scratch.... you have to rubb pretty hard (but don't brake the cd)... this may take a while... just keep rubbing around [6] take another piece of toilet paper make it wet and rub the toothpaste off.... if you still see the scratch put the toothpaste on it again and start rubbing again... the area might be a bit blurry... but now the drive should be able to read it correctly... just don't forget to wash the toothpaste off completely and then you have to dry it with a dry piece of toilet paper or something... just be sure there's no more water on it.... i hope it was a help... hmm... i already started thinking about a little step-by-step guide with pics.... maybe later... see ya... and good luck EDIT: BIIIG MISTAKE!! read the corrected point 2 again... sorry.... sometimes i realize what the little word "not" can change in a sentence Last edited by hybrid23; September 3rd, 2002 at 09:07.

September 3rd, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Decoy_Octopus Master of Disguise Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Here... again... Posts: 1,508	HMMM... thats a good idea... __________________ "I contend that any game that draws people in is a good thing, because the more people play computer games, the more the hobby becomes legitimized and loses its social-retard status."- Jeff Green

September 3rd, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Lizking AAAAAAaaaahhhh....BOOM Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carbonmonoxidia, The capital of Silicon Valley Posts: 635	is it because the bleaching chemicals melt the plastic on the CD a bit, and that fills the gaps? __________________

September 3rd, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Drack Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: PDX, USA Posts: 1,187	Hmm this is the reason why we should be allowed to make backups of our game. I guess the industry wants this to happen so that we will go out and buy another disc. __________________ Athlon64 +3200, GeForceFX 5900, 1024 MB DDR 400, nForce3 250Gb chipset 80 GB SATA Seagate , 80 GB 7200 RPM Seagate, 120 GB 7200 Seagate Lite-on SOHD-167T and Pioneer DVR-A06D Running XP Professional and SuSe 9.1

September 3rd, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,945	also i have to say that this is only the cheapest and quickest idea... there ARe better solutions and stuff... @lizking: i don't think this has anything to do with the chemicals... it is more because you know the biggest part of a cd is plastic wich scratches easily and protects the written parts underneath.... so if there's a scratch on that plastic the laser get's splitted and the signal is not correct... now if you rubb away the scratch you make the whole are even so the signal get's trough directly... (this is just an idea...)

September 3rd, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Sir Key Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nirvana Posts: 1,945	there are some here in my country they are called perlweiss... it's the same if you put backing flour on your teeth...

September 5th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	ok... so does it make your teeth whiter??? just wanna know... __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

September 6th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Alias >_< Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 924	toothpaste lightly buffs away the scratch. And another important point is to rub vertically from the inside of the disc toward the outside. DON'T MAKE CIRCLES!!! You'll make your cd even worse. __________________ >_<

September 7th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	and don't forget to remove excess toothpaste.. also don't apply thick coats... __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

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