PPSX demo discs

Omegainf · July 1st, 2002

As we all know, demos of pc games are very common and can be distributed freely. I've noticed that outside Brazil there are lots of psx demo discs which are psx cds with lots of game demos on it.
The question is: Is the digital (internet) distribution of these demos illegal?

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**Bgnome** · July 1st, 2002

afaik, these demo discs are usually purchased or come with a specific magazine so they arent exactly free to distribute in the first place..
you can, however, use an epsxe savestate as a sort of demo..there used to be some sort of group around here that shared them..

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Omegainf · July 1st, 2002

Well, a lot of pc demo discs come with pc magazines... and those demos were downloaded from the internet, so, they're free.

Really? How come? AFAIK the savestates hold just small data... I think It's not even enough for a quick glance

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**Bgnome** · July 1st, 2002

just because something comes with a magazine, doesnt mean its free.. datel gave away copies of dvdx with its magazine once and that is still retail software. if its not offered by the company for free distribution, like pc demos usually are, i fail to see how anyone has the right to distribute it..

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July 1st, 2002

Omegainf, AFIK, magazines pay the companies for demo disks of their work. Then the magzine includes the demos in a certain issue, which you must buy. The key word is BUY. The magizines pay for the rights to the demo disks and you pay for the magazine which includes the demo disk. Therefore, the demo disks are not free. they have been paid for. Therefore, to freely distribute without having bought the magazine or copy them, would, to me, be illegal.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

**Prafull** · July 8th, 2002

Rest of the discussion was about savestates and can be found here.

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=21869

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RF · July 9th, 2002

Im not sure. Wouldnt this be much like freeware? They have gave the rights to freely distribute the disc. So I think it would be fine?

**IMO**

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takwu · July 9th, 2002

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Originally posted by Reichfuher
They have gave the rights to freely distribute the disc.

No they haven't.
Read sxamiga's post more carefully. It is not free. It is part of the magazine. IE you cannot rip the disc off the magazine and say it's free. Must buy.
Did I mention it's not free?

It's analogy time again.
Say you buy a video card and it comes with "free" software like a DVD player or something. Is that CD freely distributed? No. Can you legally copy the CD and give to your friend? No.

So if you really want the demo, buy the magazine.

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RF · July 9th, 2002

Alright, sry i was wrong.

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Omegainf · July 10th, 2002

The Savestate project was put on hold due to the "death" of my GeForce

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takwu · July 10th, 2002

Sorry to hear that. But then you can get a new one

Anyway, I think you should reply to the new thread prafull has created. See 5th post above.

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Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,595	PPSX demo discs As we all know, demos of pc games are very common and can be distributed freely. I've noticed that outside Brazil there are lots of psx demo discs which are psx cds with lots of game demos on it. The question is: Is the digital (internet) distribution of these demos illegal? __________________

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July 1st, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Bgnome Who Da Gnome? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: At Home Posts: 2,441	afaik, these demo discs are usually purchased or come with a specific magazine so they arent exactly free to distribute in the first place.. you can, however, use an epsxe savestate as a sort of demo..there used to be some sort of group around here that shared them.. __________________ May the Gnome™ be With You

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Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,595	Well, a lot of pc demo discs come with pc magazines... and those demos were downloaded from the internet, so, they're free. Really? How come? AFAIK the savestates hold just small data... I think It's not even enough for a quick glance __________________

July 1st, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Bgnome Who Da Gnome? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: At Home Posts: 2,441	just because something comes with a magazine, doesnt mean its free.. datel gave away copies of dvdx with its magazine once and that is still retail software. if its not offered by the company for free distribution, like pc demos usually are, i fail to see how anyone has the right to distribute it.. __________________ May the Gnome™ be With You

July 1st, 2002	#5 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Omegainf, AFIK, magazines pay the companies for demo disks of their work. Then the magzine includes the demos in a certain issue, which you must buy. The key word is BUY. The magizines pay for the rights to the demo disks and you pay for the magazine which includes the demo disk. Therefore, the demo disks are not free. they have been paid for. Therefore, to freely distribute without having bought the magazine or copy them, would, to me, be illegal. sincerely, sx/amiga

July 8th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Prafull Administrator, PCSX2 tester Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 5,046	Rest of the discussion was about savestates and can be found here. http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=21869 __________________ E6750, Abit ip35E, MSI GTX260, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 RAM, BENQ E2200HD.

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RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,744	Im not sure. Wouldnt this be much like freeware? They have gave the rights to freely distribute the disc. So I think it would be fine? IMO __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: SLI 8800GTX HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

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RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,744	Alright, sry i was wrong. __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: SLI 8800GTX HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

July 10th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,595	The Savestate project was put on hold due to the "death" of my GeForce __________________

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takwu previous extinction Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,857	Sorry to hear that. But then you can get a new one Anyway, I think you should reply to the new thread prafull has created. See 5th post above. __________________ Latest toy: Sharp LCD TV Monitor LL-M17W1U