The worthless elements of Chrono Cross

Allnatural · May 28th, 2002

I like the "magic" system in this game, but I hate the elements Hellsoul and Hellbound. Every other element has its uses, but these two stink. Sure they can cause instant kills, but it rarely works. I guess I wouldn't be bothered if they would at least do some damage when they don't score an instant kill, but that doesn't seem to be the case. They appear to be a total waste.

Agree? Disagree? Am I crazy?

**Kane** · May 28th, 2002

I never use 'Death' style spells in any game, because they hardly ever work.

Hydra · May 28th, 2002

Yeah they will work on the enemys you can take out in one hit anyway.

evil aloha · May 28th, 2002

I agree with Lord Kane, but in FF8 the Deadly spells works very well...

Hydra · May 28th, 2002

They did? I never tryed them. It would be kind of rubbish though to take out the last boss in ten seconds, but that's kind of extreme.

LordDante · May 28th, 2002

well it depends on your luck. but i rarely use any instant death spells..why risk when you can burn it with other spells

Auri87 · May 28th, 2002

if your using epsxe here is an equation u may want to know

death spell + save states = instant win

Hydra · May 28th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Kr0nic_2000
if your using epsxe here is an equation u may want to know

death spell + save states = instant win

:confused:

Strider · May 28th, 2002

he means you can keep loading if the spell doesnt work... i did that all the time in shining force

Hydra · May 28th, 2002

Oh I fought he was talking about some kind of glitch. Yeah I've done that for a few games.

Eface · May 28th, 2002

what bothers me most is that your instant death won't work, or maybe , JUST MAYBE, but when the enemy does it, it's got a 100% hitrate, unless u got protection.... That goes for allmost all the rpg's i've played.

Allnatural · May 29th, 2002

I will say in the defense of the elements in question, they do appear to have a high rate of affecting the target with Curse status. It would be better if it were Blind though.:eyes:

Hydra · May 29th, 2002

Silence moves never work ether.

**Kane** · May 29th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Eface
what bothers me most is that your instant death won't work, or maybe , JUST MAYBE, but when the enemy does it, it's got a 100% hitrate, unless u got protection.... That goes for allmost all the rpg's i've played.

It's normally based on an experience difference with a random number added for good measure.

Eface · May 29th, 2002

but it seems that those random numbers are randomly stacked AGAINST you....

Hydra · May 30th, 2002

While the laws of the random numbers never seem to work against your enemy.

Eface · May 30th, 2002

yeah..... that's what i felt too.....
Welcome to the FAIR world of rpgs.

hoyoyo80 · May 31st, 2002

Yes,death spell aren't like attack magic,status change magic actually depend on luck, i never use death,since if it miss,it will waste my turn...

Koji2009 · May 31st, 2002

Death spells are a waste of time... The whole idea of instantly killing an enemy is kinda annoying... I prefer having a little challenge when playing in RPGs... I guess what it comes down to is I never try to level up (as I don't go out of my way to level up) I never use cheats my first time around a game (anytime after that is fine till you get where the game gets good... then off they go) and using epsxe savestates to cheat is best on annoying platformers (such as MMX6) not RPGs.

total_hatred · May 31st, 2002

I agree death spells are a waste of time
Don't rely you game on lluck
death spells by default has low hit percentage
time had proven it again and again
this is apply to most games
you should know it by now

May 28th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Allnatural No preservatives™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toledo, OH. USA Posts: 965	The worthless elements of Chrono Cross I like the "magic" system in this game, but I hate the elements Hellsoul and Hellbound. Every other element has its uses, but these two stink. Sure they can cause instant kills, but it rarely works. I guess I wouldn't be bothered if they would at least do some damage when they don't score an instant kill, but that doesn't seem to be the case. They appear to be a total waste. Agree? Disagree? Am I crazy? __________________ Videogame Gifs

May 28th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	I never use 'Death' style spells in any game, because they hardly ever work. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 28th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Hydra ???!!!???!!!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In your lunchbox. No don't open the lid! Ack the light it burns. Posts: 2,183	Yeah they will work on the enemys you can take out in one hit anyway. __________________ Mobo: Asus A8V Deluxe CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ RAM: 1024MB DDR400 Dual Channel Graphics: nVidia Geforce FX 6600 GT 128MB DDR3 HDD: 260GB OS: Windows XP SP2

May 28th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
evil aloha The destiny of an angel Join Date: May 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 208	I agree with Lord Kane, but in FF8 the Deadly spells works very well... __________________ the baD Guys goes to the hell, the gOOd Guys goes to nowhere...

May 28th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Hydra ???!!!???!!!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In your lunchbox. No don't open the lid! Ack the light it burns. Posts: 2,183	They did? I never tryed them. It would be kind of rubbish though to take out the last boss in ten seconds, but that's kind of extreme. __________________ Mobo: Asus A8V Deluxe CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ RAM: 1024MB DDR400 Dual Channel Graphics: nVidia Geforce FX 6600 GT 128MB DDR3 HDD: 260GB OS: Windows XP SP2

May 28th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
LordDante Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Croatia Posts: 255	well it depends on your luck. but i rarely use any instant death spells..why risk when you can burn it with other spells __________________ Why :rockets: when you can [sig=62] i stumbled upon the philosopher's stone... i had the veil of illusion pulled out... and was confronted... by the many levels of energy and many realms of consciousness which were available to man... i opened the pandora's box... of multiple realities. [-celtic cross] know.....

May 28th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Auri87 aka. "Kr0nic_2000" Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: If i told you then i would have to kill you... Posts: 2,165	if your using epsxe here is an equation u may want to know death spell + save states = instant win __________________ If you're lying to me, I'll kill ya. If I think you're lying to me, I'll kill ya. If you leave anything out, I'll kill ya. As a matter of fact you're gonna have to work very hard to stay alive. Do you understand? Good, cause if you don't, I'll kill ya. "trying is the first step towards failure" -Homer Simpson- check out my 3d marks http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4481587

May 28th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Strider Living Paradigm Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 10,224	he means you can keep loading if the spell doesnt work... i did that all the time in shining force __________________ My Deviant Art

May 28th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Hydra ???!!!???!!!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In your lunchbox. No don't open the lid! Ack the light it burns. Posts: 2,183	Oh I fought he was talking about some kind of glitch. Yeah I've done that for a few games. __________________ Mobo: Asus A8V Deluxe CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ RAM: 1024MB DDR400 Dual Channel Graphics: nVidia Geforce FX 6600 GT 128MB DDR3 HDD: 260GB OS: Windows XP SP2

May 28th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Eface The ChinaDude!!! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In my room, with my computer. hey, i saw at another forum that you could dump a lot of info here. Can i do that here too? Yes, i see i can do that. LOL, i love this, how much can i talk more here? STILL MORE? Oh this is so much fun but here it ends. Posts: 3,917	what bothers me most is that your instant death won't work, or maybe , JUST MAYBE, but when the enemy does it, it's got a 100% hitrate, unless u got protection.... That goes for allmost all the rpg's i've played. __________________ "Always fighting for your believes..." "...With fighting, my belief began" --------------------------------- "Like... WTF are you doing with that chair?" "What does it look like, of course i'm going to use it to fly!" My homepage where my drawings are for ur pleasure! really really NOT updated

May 29th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Allnatural No preservatives™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toledo, OH. USA Posts: 965	I will say in the defense of the elements in question, they do appear to have a high rate of affecting the target with Curse status. It would be better if it were Blind though.:eyes: __________________ Videogame Gifs

May 29th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Hydra ???!!!???!!!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In your lunchbox. No don't open the lid! Ack the light it burns. Posts: 2,183	Silence moves never work ether. __________________ Mobo: Asus A8V Deluxe CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ RAM: 1024MB DDR400 Dual Channel Graphics: nVidia Geforce FX 6600 GT 128MB DDR3 HDD: 260GB OS: Windows XP SP2

May 29th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Eface The ChinaDude!!! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In my room, with my computer. hey, i saw at another forum that you could dump a lot of info here. Can i do that here too? Yes, i see i can do that. LOL, i love this, how much can i talk more here? STILL MORE? Oh this is so much fun but here it ends. Posts: 3,917	but it seems that those random numbers are randomly stacked AGAINST you.... __________________ "Always fighting for your believes..." "...With fighting, my belief began" --------------------------------- "Like... WTF are you doing with that chair?" "What does it look like, of course i'm going to use it to fly!" My homepage where my drawings are for ur pleasure! really really NOT updated

May 30th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Hydra ???!!!???!!!?!?! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In your lunchbox. No don't open the lid! Ack the light it burns. Posts: 2,183	While the laws of the random numbers never seem to work against your enemy. __________________ Mobo: Asus A8V Deluxe CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ RAM: 1024MB DDR400 Dual Channel Graphics: nVidia Geforce FX 6600 GT 128MB DDR3 HDD: 260GB OS: Windows XP SP2

May 30th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Eface The ChinaDude!!! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In my room, with my computer. hey, i saw at another forum that you could dump a lot of info here. Can i do that here too? Yes, i see i can do that. LOL, i love this, how much can i talk more here? STILL MORE? Oh this is so much fun but here it ends. Posts: 3,917	yeah..... that's what i felt too..... Welcome to the FAIR world of rpgs. __________________ "Always fighting for your believes..." "...With fighting, my belief began" --------------------------------- "Like... WTF are you doing with that chair?" "What does it look like, of course i'm going to use it to fly!" My homepage where my drawings are for ur pleasure! really really NOT updated

May 31st, 2002	#18 (permalink)
hoyoyo80 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Darkside Of Xeen Posts: 1,124	Yes,death spell aren't like attack magic,status change magic actually depend on luck, i never use death,since if it miss,it will waste my turn... __________________ Signature filesize too large

May 31st, 2002	#19 (permalink)
Koji2009 Don't make me stab you... Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wherever my shiny sword takes me. Posts: 338	Death spells are a waste of time... The whole idea of instantly killing an enemy is kinda annoying... I prefer having a little challenge when playing in RPGs... I guess what it comes down to is I never try to level up (as I don't go out of my way to level up) I never use cheats my first time around a game (anytime after that is fine till you get where the game gets good... then off they go) and using epsxe savestates to cheat is best on annoying platformers (such as MMX6) not RPGs. __________________ As I meander about my life I wonder if it's all worth it... Then I see my huge anime collection in the corner and I know it was not all in vain. -Writing crappy books and crappy drawings... what better to do with that free time then blow it here instead?

May 31st, 2002	#20 (permalink)
total_hatred Rabid Wolf Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Digiworld Posts: 495	I agree death spells are a waste of time Don't rely you game on lluck death spells by default has low hit percentage time had proven it again and again this is apply to most games you should know it by now __________________ I am no psychic I am a psycho!!! A first rate fighter never lifts a finger to win a fight If It is a sin to be mighty Call me the Devil Oh huh, I wonder where I got the line

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