PS3 sales up 999%

[bobrocks95]

With a price drop to $300 aren't Sony back to loosing money for every PS3 sold? Oh joy.

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[PCXL-Fan]

The party is going strong for sony, but heartache and hangover after the party will begin when they discover a yet to be determined portion of those sales were from people just buying the system for the bluray capabilities, as the ps3 is now in the bluray player price category yet has superior capabilities such as the 120gb hdd to store countless downloaded file formats.

Originally Posted by bobrocks95

With a price drop to $300 aren't Sony back to loosing money for every PS3 sold? Oh joy.

there was never a point where they were making money actually. This slimmer ps3 is cheaper to manufacture, and what allowed them to drop the price.

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[Paratech]

That was a brilliant point about the Blu Ray, I wish I had thought of that. It may wind up hurting Sony in the long run, which I don't want to see happen.

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[bobrocks95]

Originally Posted by PCXL-Fan

there was never a point where they weren't making money actually. This slimmer ps3 is cheaper to manufacture, and what allowed them to drop the price.

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The full production cost for a 20GB system is a whopping $805.85, with the 60 GB coming in at $840.35. Chief among the expenses are the RSX graphics chip at $129 and the Blu-Ray optical drive at $125. In contrast, the $400 Xbox 360 only costs $323.30. For the first time in its five-year console publishing history, Microsoft is making a profit on each system sold.

For those wondering about retailers, it should be noted that stores make almost no money selling consoles. Retailers such as EB Games and Wal-Mart make money on software and peripheral sales.

The steep cost of producing PS3s won't last forever. In general, the longer an item is produced, the cheaper it becomes to manufacture. Over time, the cost of the PS3 will get lower as the cost of parts gets cheaper and production becomes more efficient. That doesn't guarantee Sony will ever make a profit on selling the system alone, but it can still bank on earning a hefty paycheck from software sales and digital downloads.

The bottom line is that no matter what it costs Sony to make one, you only have to pay $600 to own it. In that sense, you're getting a hell of a bargain when you purchase a PS3.

Never say never. It's old but you're saying they've made a profit since the PS3 was released. Obviously not the case.

I didn't know it was a slimmed-down version. I might want a PS3 if it were today's price but had the features of the original(PS2 backwards-compatability, all the ports and such), but they've removed so much since it first came out that it doesn't appeal to me at all whatsoever now.

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[PCXL-Fan]

No I said they've NEVER made a profit.

Blah i made a typo back in my previous post, I meant they never made a profit. Damnit Thanakil, why did you make me multitask and mess up what i was trying to say???

Ps3 is an expensive machine, more expensive then the xbox at least, thanks to the bluray drive and likely the cell (garbage) processor as well.

Even teh ps3 with the 80gb hdd and no ps2 components, they were losing money.

They were trying to market the ps3 slim as something cuz they were trying to give something nice and awesome to the consumer, but was purely a calculated business decision in order for them to preferably decrease manufacturing cost and reduce price of each unit. But then because of poor sales in northamerica and japan and pressure from one of the big developers to lower their price point (or they'd abandon ps3) they were forced to implement the price drop as soon as the ps3 slim was release.

At least thats the impression i got while following the ps3 slim rumours.

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Originally Posted by Exodus

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[Paratech]

Taking out Linux support was like putting the rabid dog to sleep for me. Even though it only ran ~1.8GZ PC, if it had PS2 support and I could load it with MAME and some other emulators, that might have gotten me to buy it eventually.

Crazy Kong Orca on my TV... :drools:

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[runawayprisoner]

Refurbished 20GB PS3 (full BC) for $279.99.
Or refurbished 40GB PS3 (no BC) for $229.99.

Both at GameStop.

That's all I'll say.

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[PCXL-Fan]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Refurbished 20GB PS3 (full BC) for $279.99.
Or refurbished 40GB PS3 (no BC) for $229.99.

Both at GameStop.

That's all I'll say.

Okay, but that doesn't necessary mean that these prices are reflective of the manufacturing cost. Even if it is, the combination of manufacturing, shipping, labour, marketing, support & etc cost, aka the whole kit and caboodle needs to be factored in as well.

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Originally Posted by Exodus

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[runawayprisoner]

Originally Posted by PCXL-Fan

Okay, but that doesn't necessary mean that these prices are reflective of manufacturing cost.

Who cares about manufacturing cost, honestly? IGN makes you feel like you're getting the PS3 for cheap so let's leave it at that.

To be honest, I'm over convincing people that the PS3 ain't as expensive as they think it is and that the actual loss that Sony is talking about is from R&D but hey... look on the bright side: You are happy with your purchase one way or another.

Edit: I just listed those since I find that a new Wii for $249.99 is just ludicrously expensive since you can get a PS3 for $50 more.

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[PCXL-Fan]

And it likely cost Sony a pretty penny to revamp their facilities to manufacture the ps3 slim. (or finance whichever chinese manufacturer they were in partnership with to revamp said's manufacturing facilities)


Yeah i assumed it likely wasn't a purely raw components cost/assembly amount, and was typing so, but you quoted before i could finish adding.

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[Silenus]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Edit: I just listed those since I find that a new Wii for $249.99 is just ludicrously expensive since you can get a PS3 for $50 more.

Yeah I read somewhere they are giving the wii a pricecut in october.

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[bobrocks95]

Sony's gaming division posted a net loss of $1.2 billion the fiscal year after the PS3 came out ya know. But at $300 I would buy a PS3 if it had all the features the original model had when it first came out.

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The game's audio and sound were almost universally lauded. A significant departure from the consensus was offered by Kuchera, who wrote that the saxophone touches "[sound] like the softcore porn they show on Cinemax after midnight".

[Nomad1998]

Originally Posted by Spyhop

1. PS3 sales were fine. Worldwide, it had sold more for the time it's been out than the 360. Don't make me pull out the sales figures for the umpteenth time.

2. The increased sales shows only an initial response to the price drop, and isn't indicative in any way of how well or poorly it was selling before. These sales figures will likely continue for the next few weeks and then taper off to something more reasonable.

Really ?? Maybe you should check the online VG chart......

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360 > 31.81m = 29,2 %
PS3> 23.97m = 22%
Wii> 53.09m= 48.8%
NDS> 109.84m= 68.2%
PSP> 51.27m = 31,89%

Obviously you should look for better sources, you're making a fool of yourself.

[Noja87]

Originally Posted by Spyhop

1. PS3 sales were fine. Worldwide, it had sold more for the time it's been out than the 360. Don't make me pull out the sales figures for the umpteenth time.

2. The increased sales shows only an initial response to the price drop, and isn't indicative in any way of how well or poorly it was selling before. These sales figures will likely continue for the next few weeks and then taper off to something more reasonable.

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@Nomad1998, You registered here just to say that?

[Paratech]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Edit: I just listed those since I find that a new Wii for $249.99 is just ludicrously expensive since you can get a PS3 for $50 more.

I didn't buy the Wii because it was the cheapest, I purchased it for the games and have > 30 for it at the moment. I have different tastes than many gamers, but the "legal" Neo Geo games, Cruisin', Virtual games, 1st party games, they made me want a Wii.

I do want a 360, but I'm patient and will get one in due time.

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[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by Nomad1998

Really ?? Maybe you should check the online VG chart......

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360 > 31.81m = 29,2 %
PS3> 23.97m = 22%
Wii> 53.09m= 48.8%
NDS> 109.84m= 68.2%
PSP> 51.27m = 31,89%

Obviously you should look for better sources, you're making a fool of yourself.

Now do the math young padawan. The 360 was released Nov 2005. PS3, Nov 2006. Between the PS3 and 360, how many of each has been sold per year since their respective releases? The PS3's sales are just as healthy as the 360's and now they're going to be doing even better. (You can't compare it against the wii or handhelds. Those are different classes of console. You don't compare a Civic to a Lexus and say, "See? Civic is better, it clearly outsells the Lexus." The 360 is the PS3's direct competitor.)

I understand logical thought isn't for everyone but perhaps you should acknowledge that about yourself before throwing numbers down to prove your point in a discussion. Double check your numbers before you, and I'm quoting here, "make a fool of yourself."

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[Paratech]

There's an almost 8 million console sales gap between the PS3 and the 360, are you implying that in 4 years the PS3 could not make up the slack of being the newest system? and Sony has lost over $1 billion in sales and had to cut jobs. Even coming out last, they shouldn't and don't want to be third.

You would think with all the bad mouthing of the RROD and angry 360 owners that PS3 would sell better than the 360, but even with MGS4, even with it packed with the system, the console is 3rd.

And as was mentioned, even if it catches up in sales, it will need game sales to help it succeed, or does Sony take a cut on all Blu Ray Movies made as PS3 games?

I would like to see the PS3 sell better, selling only 75% as well as the 360, when the 360 is KNOWN to have had DEFECTS is not a good sign. While I don't want a PS3, I love the PSP and want to see Sony continue selling consoles into the future.

I like the fact Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony are competing in the console business, if it were up to me, it would be Atari, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sega, and Sony and all 5 systems would have great games to offer gamers.

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[Spyhop]

Originally Posted by Paratech

There's an almost 8 million console sales gap between the PS3 and the 360

Which is in keeping with the 1 year release gap. Why is this concept hard to grasp?

Originally Posted by Paratech

and Sony has lost over $1 billion in sale

The PS3, when it was released, cost a lot more to make. Both Microsoft and Sony took a loss on their consoles, but Sony's was more. Ironically, the more consoles they sell, the more they lose.

Now, they're supposed to make this money back on software licensing. As the PS3's game offerings in the first year were meager, the 1 billion loss makes sense. However, the PS3 library is quite large now, and the PS3's production costs are much lower.

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[Paratech]

Considering the 360 failure rate and the fact the PS3 is a "better" system, it should be outselling the 360, not neck and neck with it, and that doesn't compete at all with the Wii.

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